The strive for Theocracy gets a win

[about_average]

Legislation that would have allowed terminally ill patients to legally end their lives in California stalled Tuesday amid strong opposition from religious groups, who claim that allowing doctors to prescribe life-ending medication is assisted suicide and goes against God’s will.

https://www.yahoo.com/health/californias-stalled-right-to-die-bill-will-come-123480344673.html

So much for religious freedom, but I guess you're not entitled to it unless you're a christian.

 

[Busybody]

Legislation that would have allowed terminally ill patients to legally end their lives in California stalled Tuesday amid strong opposition from religious groups, who claim that allowing doctors to prescribe life-ending medication is assisted suicide and goes against God’s will.

https://www.yahoo.com/health/californias-stalled-right-to-die-bill-will-come-123480344673.html

o much for religious freedom, but I guess you're not entitled to it unless you're a christianS.

Good

 

[Boxlicker101]

This is the kind of situation that emphasizes the wisdom of the initiative process in CA. Given a choice, I believe the voters would vote overwhelmingly for the right to die. However, the legislators are too cowardly to pass the needed law.

 

[someoneyouknow]

This is exactly why Madison and Jefferson erected a wall between Church and State.

Unfortunately, as in many things, the Church ignores what it wants then complains when the State slaps it down.

 

[phrodeau]

http://media2.kjrh.com/photo/2014/10/24/16x9/Ten_commandments_monument_destroyed_in_O_2164660000_9321496_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

Thou shalt keep thy graven images off of Caesar's lawn.

 

[Sean Renaud]

This is the kind of situation that emphasizes the wisdom of the initiative process in CA. Given a choice, I believe the voters would vote overwhelmingly for the right to die. However, the legislators are too cowardly to pass the needed law.

As a Californian I have to call BS. You're probably right mind you that given the chance we'd vote overwhelming to have the right to die but we prove time and time again that there is a damn good reason why we elect people who have the time and frankly the inteligence to understand complex legal and economic issues and then for the most part stay out of their way and it's because the average American has no business even being part of the conversation.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Legislation that would have allowed terminally ill patients to legally end their lives in California stalled Tuesday amid strong opposition from religious groups, who claim that allowing doctors to prescribe life-ending medication is assisted suicide and goes against God’s will.

https://www.yahoo.com/health/californias-stalled-right-to-die-bill-will-come-123480344673.html

So much for religious freedom, but I guess you're not entitled to it unless you're a christian.

That's slowly going away but it's still there.....one day we will finally be rid of the church running shit. I hope to see the day "God" and his will/word/wishes/commandments etc. are no longer a legitimately recognized legal argument in this country.

As a Californian I have to call BS. You're probably right mind you that given the chance we'd vote overwhelming to have the right to die but we prove time and time again that there is a damn good reason why we elect people who have the time and frankly the inteligence to understand complex legal and economic issues and then for the most part stay out of their way and it's because the average American has no business even being part of the conversation.

LOL they can't even elect assholes worth their weight in shit 95% of the time. The average american is so fucking ignorant they aren't even sure who has the slightest clue about those complex issues. Thy just pick the best looking, most popular minority victim or cranky old racist theocon of choice and vote that way.

Clinton? She's a fucking snake of the highest order, the epitome of slimy used car salesman type politician.....and she stands a good chance of becoming POTUS "because it's time a woman was in the white house" LOL I won't even try to go over the shit show happening on the right. I'll shitbrix if anything comes of that cluster fuck but laughs.

America wouldn't know a great leader if one beat us over the head with a win stick....Kim Kardashin would win in a landslide.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hillary winning isn't because she's a woman it's because like it or not she's pretty damn good at what she does. I'm not a fan of hers by any stretch of the imagination but she's not an idiot and she knows how the game is played at the highest level. The only reason she's not president now is she wasn't paying attention to some upstart Senator and by the time she noticed she was in a genuine competition not a victory lap it was too late to do shit about it.

If the universe is willing she won't pay attention to Bernie and he'll tap into some magic.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hillary winning isn't because she's a woman

LOL yea right.....that's why her vagina is the focus of not only her campaign but her constituency too. All around CA "It's time a WOMAN was in office!" common man....if she was a he, he'd be that relation of Billy C's that faded out after Bills time was up.

it's because like it or not she's pretty damn good at what she does.
I'm not a fan of hers by any stretch of the imagination but she's not an idiot and she knows how the game is played at the highest level.

She is good at what she does and she does know how the game is played. When it comes to giving lip service and swinging deals behind closed doors to get paid.

And none of that has to do with her having any sort of track record resolving complex issues for the betterment of the citizens of this country.....leading her fellow democrats to accomplish ANYTHING.

If she had even the slightest shred of what we need in leadership you, her campaign and the rest of her supporters would be spouting off all the kick ass shit she's done and screaming "Fuck yes we need more of this look how bad ass she is!"
instead of "It's TIME a WOMAN was in the white house! Vote Clinton!" . If I'm wrong go ahead and tell me about the great shit she's managed to get done in the past 20 years floating around at the highest levels of government. I'd like to see what the silly bitch is on about.....but all I tend to find is a her constantly at the center of a bunch of partisan fuck fuck games/circle jerking.

She's a great lawyer and a world class snake of a politician......but she's a horrible leader.

The only reason she's not president now is she wasn't paying attention to some upstart Senator and by the time she noticed she was in a genuine competition not a victory lap it was too late to do shit about it.

I think she saw the writing on the wall and let O eat the shit storm rolling off of W's backside because under those conditions there was no winning just lots of suck to embrace. And I can't blame her for not wanting to eat that cluster fuck and potentially ruining herself. Great politician......

If the universe is willing she won't pay attention to Bernie and he'll tap into some magic.

If the universe is willing M'uricuh will pull it's head SLIGHTLY out of their ass and not vote for a name or genitals and realize Hillary is going backwards and not a good leader. Bernie is a man with a plan, a plan he believes in. But he's old, weird looking and talks funny....so considering that it's a point blank fact Kim K. and a laundry list of airhead celebs have a better chance at the Oval office than Sanders.

Hillary has a royal name and the right gear between her legs to appeal to her highly gender biased constituency. Sanders is fucked.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hillary winning isn't because she's a woman it's because like it or not she's pretty damn good at what she does. I'm not a fan of hers by any stretch of the imagination but she's not an idiot and she knows how the game is played at the highest level. The only reason she's not president now is she wasn't paying attention to some upstart Senator and by the time she noticed she was in a genuine competition not a victory lap it was too late to do shit about it.

If the universe is willing she won't pay attention to Bernie and he'll tap into some magic.

Lie JFK and Nixon, Hillary is good at the game of politics, which is not intended to be a compliment. If she were a man, she would probably now be a partner in a law firm in Chicago, possibly involved in local politics. She would not be a former first lady, and this status was the only reason she became a senator from NY and later became a viable candidate for POTUS and Sec. of State after that.

Currently, the only real positive she has going for her is that she is a woman and can try to persuade voters to make her an historic first.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Lie JFK and Nixon, Hillary is good at the game of politics, which is not intended to be a compliment. If she were a man, she would probably now be a partner in a law firm in Chicago, possibly involved in local politics. She would not be a former first lady, and this status was the only reason she became a senator from NY and later became a viable candidate for POTUS and Sec. of State after that.

Currently, the only real positive she has going for her is that she is a woman and can try to persuade voters to make her an historic first.

Well if whe were a man she'd have a difficult time being a first lady. There are an extremely low number of Bruce Jenner's in the world. But yeah she's good at the game of politics and that should be a compliment. We can stand around and claim that the only reason she became a Senator from NY is because of her first lady status but there is no real way of proving that. Kennedys seem to be able to simply claim a spot in government by virtue of being Kennedys and we're currently discussing a third Bush for president. So family hook up, yeah I buy that but I'm not really certain her first lady status instead of being a Clinton is really the important part.

She's got a fair amount of positives.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Currently, the only real positive she has going for her is that she is a woman and can try to persuade voters to make her an historic first.

No...it's largely her name.

Could you imagine if Reagan had a son up there right now sounding like a total fucking theocratic loon? Change Santorum to Reagan. He would fuckin kill it....the GOP would be fawning over the psychopath for the simple fact they have some bizzare romantic infatuation with some fictional character they think his father was. And you know I'm right too....

Hillary has that advantage with the democrats right now and can pretty much do whatever the fuck she wants short of setting puppies on fire on the 5'Oclock news and she is still going to take the (D) field largely because Clinton...the vagina just helps to solidify by knocking out the male competition for the (D) green light because democrats are largely speaking every bit the raging sexist their RW counterparts are. And currently the DNC doesn't have any women to run that wouldn't be written off by the swing states as lunatic commies....except Clinton because Clinton. So yea it helps reel in a nice chunk of loons but the meat of her campaign is "I'm a Clinton, vote for me!" that's not enough "I'm a democrat with a vagina." is her back up/out reach to the loons and fringe femmies.

She doesn't have a whole lot else....no cause....no real commitment to a problem no fucking plans to deal with the problems that are fucking people up. Just lots of emotional appeals and bullshitting about how much of a victim all the victims out there are. Woooo....but Clinton, female Clinton. GG

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't know if it occurs to you guys, but being a Clinton is the result of marrying Bill Clinton, which she could not have done if she were not a woman, Well, maybe she could have, but neither would have been elected to anything in AK.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The general wisdom refutes the Hillary=good politician thesis. Obama kicked her ass in 2008. America doesn't love or respect her. America knows 2 hard facts about Hillary: If elected she wont play by the rules, and if caught fucking the dog she'll refuse to cooperate with Congress so the fuck ups can be fixed.

I'm betting her free ride is over.

 

[Busybody]

Legislation that would have allowed terminally ill patients to legally end their lives in California stalled Tuesday amid strong opposition from religious groups, who claim that allowing doctors to prescribe life-ending medication is assisted suicide and goes against God’s will.

https://www.yahoo.com/health/californias-stalled-right-to-die-bill-will-come-123480344673.html

So much for religious freedom, but I guess you're not entitled to it unless you're a christian.

LIBZ n DUMZ n PROGZ n FAGZ n GAYZ n GIMPZ love killing people

#deathpushers

 

[Messier82]

So which of you guys would vote for Donald (syrup) Trump?

He makes our sleazy Eton-old-boy policitians look pretty darned good by comparison.

 

[about_average]

That's slowly going away but it's still there.....one day we will finally be rid of the church running shit. I hope to see the day "God" and his will/word/wishes/commandments etc. are no longer a legitimately recognized legal argument in this country.

I think it's 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Very slow progress.
I know I won't live to see it, and I'd bet you won't either, except I wouldn't be around to collect.

 

[about_average]

This is exactly why Madison and Jefferson erected a wall between Church and State.

More like left instructions on how to make and lay bricks. Then others burned the instructions as the work of the devil.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Well, all of you fellas talking about Hillary getting votes because she's herself a vagina is HYSTERICAL!! I can tell you , as a vagina owner, I'd much rather have Bernie in office. The same goes for just about every other vagina owner I know that is involved in or even interested in politics.

Carry on pretending to know what we're thinking.....

 

[just4friends]

Hey wait. Sec!!

We want to know what vaginas think of the right to die. They bring us into the world. Are they ok with us calling it quits before the doctors have all our money??

 

[Aglaopheme]

We want to know what vaginas think of the right to die. They bring us into the world. Are they ok with us calling it quits before the doctors have all our money??

Shush it, or you won't have to worry about it.

I believe in the right to die. I've seen horrid suffering up close and personally.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think it's 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Very slow progress.
I know I won't live to see it, and I'd bet you won't either, except I wouldn't be around to collect.

I prob wont...

Well, all of you fellas talking about Hillary getting votes because she's herself a vagina is HYSTERICAL!! I can tell you , as a vagina owner, I'd much rather have Bernie in office. The same goes for just about every other vagina owner I know that is involved in or even interested in politics.

So let me get this straight....you're actually claiming that Hillary being a woman has NO bearing at all on her running for office? None....the millions of people screaming about how it's time a woman was POTUS don't vote ever??

REALLY?? LOL DanC is this your femalt?

Maybe a vetteman leftyalt??

Carry on pretending to know what we're thinking.....

LOL yes because EVERY woman and or democrat is just like you....

 

[Aglaopheme]

It's an insult to woman everywhere when you say she'll only get the vote because she's a woman. I'm not saying, nor did I ever say 100%. I'm all for having a woman President, as are all woman, that doesn't mean we'd vote for Kim Kardsshisn, as someone said.

She's running because she's infinitely qualified.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's an insult to woman everywhere when you say she'll only get the vote because she's a woman.

I never said she will only get the vote because she's a woman I said she's getting a fuck load of votes because she's a woman.

But go ahead and tell us all how being a woman is in no way shape or form a benefit for a democratic candidate......

I'll buy it for the sake of conversation if you admit being a evangelical christian white male is no benefit to a republican candidate.

I'm not saying, nor did I ever say 100%.

Neither did I

I'm all for having a woman President, as are all woman,

Oh now you speak for all women??? How wonderfully fuckin' arrogant of you....but not shocking.

Plenty of bat shit RW women think it's an abomination for a female to be outside of her womanly duties and in the realm of men....whatever the fuck that means. But there are still huge segments of women against women in politics. If you don't believe me I'll meet you any town you want in TX and I'll find a church FULL of them.

that doesn't mean we'd vote for Kim Kardsshisn, as someone said.

No, you obviously have the reading comprehension of a fucking ant.

I said Kim K. would win over sanders because she's not a funny looking old man who can't speak for shit. Not because she has a vagina...climb the fuck down off your victim horse and actually read shit before you cry about it.

She's running because she's infinitely qualified.

LOL qualified? Really.....I guess if you just keep saying it that makes it true!

Tell me what great leadership has she shown? Tell me what has she done on a political level to improve the lives of those living under her jurisdiction??

Can you name anything? Other than playing politics to fill her pockets of course....

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)

Tell me what great leadership has she shown? Tell me what has she done on a political level to improve the lives of those living under her jurisdiction??

Can you name anything? Other than playing politics to fill her pockets of course....

I guess you have some homework to do.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_career_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton