female authors (or is it "female") who use the C word

[jsmiam]

This is an offshoot of the male-authors thread, but different enough that I think it deserves a thread of its own.

I always chuckle when a story allegedly written by a female refers to the woman's vagina as her cunt, while not in a talking dirty context (even then I still chuckle.)

My guess is virtually none of those are written by females, but it makes me wonder. Have any of the actual female authors here ever used the "c" word in your writings?

 

[CyranoJ]

Um. I can't speak for which writers are which genders, but a) sex-positive feminism has been arguing for the reclamation of words like cunt for literally decades, and (b) if you've never heard a real-live woman use the "c" word you must not get out much. I'm sorry, but this post is so incredibly naive that I have to wonder if you're not either trolling or a recluse.

 

[lovecraft68]

In general I agree that cunt is a word many women shy away from, its pretty crude and at this point usually associated with a sexist slur rather than a sexual description

However you can't say every woman refuses to use it...

And it seems to be an 'American' aversion. Just watch any UK porn and the women are always saying cunt, so if they are from that area they most likely are female.

ON a personal level that word is a red flag to me. Any man that uses it is pretty much someone I know I need not deal with. I threw one of my daughters boyfriends out of my house for using it in front of her and my wife and told her she was done seeing him.

She pulled a hissy, but six months later he was arrested for hitting his girlfriend.

Its a great word to define someone by. In the non erotic story writing sense, that is, I'm talking real life usage.

 

[lovecraft68]

Um. I can't speak for which writers are which genders, but a) sex-positive feminism has been arguing for the reclamation of words like cunt for literally decades, and (b) if you've never heard a real-live woman use the "c" word you must not get out much. I'm sorry, but this post is so incredibly naive that I have to wonder if you're not either trolling or a recluse.

Maybe its a regional thing, but I had to think pretty hard to come up with a couple of women I know who use the word. Of course what they say behind closed doors is another matter entirely, but publicly anyway, I've heard it very infrequently from a woman.

 

[DesEsseintes]

In general I agree that cunt is a word many women shy away from, its pretty crude and at this point usually associated with a sexist slur rather than a sexual description

However you can't say every woman refuses to use it...

And it seems to be an 'American' aversion. Just watch any UK porn and the women are always saying cunt, so if they are from that area they most likely are female.

ON a personal level that word is a red flag to me. Any man that uses it is pretty much someone I know I need not deal with. I threw one of my daughters boyfriends out of my house for using it in front of her and my wife and told her she was done seeing him.

She pulled a hissy, but six months later he was arrested for hitting his girlfriend.

Its a great word to define someone by. In the non erotic story writing sense, that is, I'm talking real life usage.

In the UK both men and women use it fairly freely - it's definitely extremely rude, but amongst friends I don't know anyone who would be especially shocked by its use. Certainly far, far less than racist words, for example.

 

[lovecraft68]

In the UK both men and women use it fairly freely - it's definitely extremely rude, but amongst friends I don't know anyone who would be especially shocked by its use. Certainly far, far less than racist words, for example.

But if both are using it, it tends to lose its punch.

Its a double standard, but I think less of men that use it, especially here in the US as like I said its really lost any sexual connotation and is pretty much down to pure slur.

 

[DesEsseintes]

But if both are using it, it tends to lose its punch.

Its a double standard, but I think less of men that use it, especially here in the US as like I said its really lost any sexual connotation and is pretty much down to pure slur.

I can see that. If in your part of the US it is exclusively (or almost) used as a male on female insult then it makes sense for you to use it as a yardstick for judging people. I'm just saying that you might need to make adjustments for the UK. I mean, have you met Fata?

And clearly the OP has never been around the GB much.

 

[CyranoJ]

In the North American context it's pretty taboo in polite company, for sure, and actually I would expect far less to hear it from the lips of a guy with any sense -- women can get away with using it humorously without sounding like pigs*. But in contexts of, say, joking around or bawdy storytelling with people you know, I've known a fair few women who aren't shy about using words like "cunt" or "twat" instead of "vagina" or some more anodyne circumlocution. I'd certainly be very surprised to find that there are no female authors, be they British or otherwise, using the "c" word in their stories.

* It's funny because my reaction to a guy calling a someone a "cunt" or using the word unironically in mixed company is pretty much the same as yours, which I guess is kind of a double standard but there it is.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

In general I agree that cunt is a word many women shy away from, its pretty crude and at this point usually associated with a sexist slur rather than a sexual description

However you can't say every woman refuses to use it...

And it seems to be an 'American' aversion. Just watch any UK porn and the women are always saying cunt, so if they are from that area they most likely are female.

ON a personal level that word is a red flag to me. Any man that uses it is pretty much someone I know I need not deal with. I threw one of my daughters boyfriends out of my house for using it in front of her and my wife and told her she was done seeing him.

She pulled a hissy, but six months later he was arrested for hitting his girlfriend.

Its a great word to define someone by. In the non erotic story writing sense, that is, I'm talking real life usage.

Youre a cunt.

 

[jsmiam]

Um. I can't speak for which writers are which genders, but a) sex-positive feminism has been arguing for the reclamation of words like cunt for literally decades, and (b) if you've never heard a real-live woman use the "c" word you must not get out much. I'm sorry, but this post is so incredibly naive that I have to wonder if you're not either trolling or a recluse.

Whoa, easy they're big fella..

Opening a discussion means troll? Bit harsh there.

The other point raised is very true though, this is a US only phenomenon, it's evolved to a very rarely used word here. I should have clarified that.

 

[CyranoJ]

Opening a discussion means troll?

Not necessarily, this is just the kind of question that makes me wonder if the asker has interacted with more than, like, five women out "in the wild." Doesn't really matter what continent you're asking it on -- as it happens I live in North Amercia too -- it's a bizarre question.

Least it seems that way to me. But hey, maybe I was being harsh.

 

[lovecraft68]

I can see that. If in your part of the US it is exclusively (or almost) used as a male on female insult then it makes sense for you to use it as a yardstick for judging people. I'm just saying that you might need to make adjustments for the UK. I mean, have you met Fata?

And clearly the OP has never been around the GB much.

The GB was the first thing I thought of and the UK is heavily represented there. But here East coast USA you refer to women as cunts and it is a red flag.

MY only issue with the way its tossed around the GB is not people like Fata or UK residents who don't see it in the same light the US does, but people like Eyer and 'Skiddles" and the rest of the actual woman haters there who get off on saying it.

They act like little kids whose parents laughed when they slipped and said a 'swear word' and they keep saying it.

Also falls under the internet rules of no repercussions. I am sure someone like Eyer doesn't toss that word around in R/L because he'd get the crap kicked out of him.

On a personal level that word is like a siren to me, if I hear a guy use it somewhere I will go out of my way to start baiting them and shove their ignorance down their throats publicly.

I need better hobbies.

 

[Messier82]

Hmmm... I'm in the UK and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of females I have heard use 'the C word'.

I guess it depends on locale and socio-economic status, eg southerners seem to bandy it around without raising eyebrows, but in northern UK it more typically tends to provoke comment or violent reaction.

Amongst most people I know it is widely regarded as the ultimate in bad language.

 

[lovecraft68]

Youre a cunt.

And you're old and bitter

Guess neither of us can help ourselves

 

[lovecraft68]

Hmmm... I'm in the UK and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of females I have heard use 'the C word'.

I guess it depends on locale and socio-economic status, eg southerners seem to bandy it around without raising eyebrows, but in northern UK it more typically tends to provoke comment or violent reaction.

Amongst most people I know it is widely regarded as the ultimate in bad language.

Now that's interesting because from what I've seen here of UK posters and authors and seen in the UK porn industry the word seems very common

Guess it is regional everywhere.

 

[DesEsseintes]

Provoking a violent reaction from a northerner is not necessarily the hardest thing in the world, it must be said.

I'm not suggesting the vicar uses it in his sermons: but on a Friday night, after a few drinks, it would be a rare evening that went by without it being used at all, and by women as much as men. Perhaps here in Oxfordshire we are all potty-mouths!

 

[TheSilverLining]

Hmmm... I'm in the UK and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of females I have heard use 'the C word'.

I guess it depends on locale and socio-economic status, eg southerners seem to bandy it around without raising eyebrows, but in northern UK it more typically tends to provoke comment or violent reaction.

Amongst most people I know it is widely regarded as the ultimate in bad language.

Holy sweeping-generalisation, Batman!

I rather enjoy it. There's nothing quite like a well-placed "cunt".

<- Female. UK. North. Questionable socio-economic group.

 

[CyranoJ]

On a personal level that word is like a siren to me, if I hear a guy use it somewhere I will go out of my way to start baiting them and shove their ignorance down their throats publicly.

A guy making free with the word as a term of abuse for women is certainly a different kettle of fish than someone using it to describe ladybits in a story.

 

[lovecraft68]

A guy making free with the word as a term of abuse for women is certainly a different kettle of fish than someone using it to describe ladybits in a story.

That's my point. Honestly even as a description it turns me off, but I don't hold it against the author, that's my personal taste.

The other has a pttern

They say cunt and I ask them what kind of asshole raised them to think that's funny

they then ask me if I'm some kind of faggot

I ask if that is their way of asking me out.

They then devolve into the clever "fuck you"

And I come back with "I know you want to fuck me, don't you, baby?"

Where it goes from there depends on how much alcohol is involved and if they have someone to tell them to knock it off

Or my wife gives me the "Really?" look and walks away....then I have to stop....

I hate having her as a conscious.

 

[Learin]

This is an offshoot of the male-authors thread, but different enough that I think it deserves a thread of its own.

I always chuckle when a story allegedly written by a female refers to the woman's vagina as her cunt, while not in a talking dirty context (even then I still chuckle.)

My guess is virtually none of those are written by females, but it makes me wonder. Have any of the actual female authors here ever used the "c" word in your writings?

It depends on where it's being used.

In writing, Cunt is too harsh a word to be used freely in non-hardcore erotica. It jars me out of the experience when the author makes a sudden jump from mushy-wushy words to a "Suck it, you cunt!" attitude. Not a good experience most of the time.

In RL, Cunt is a common word around here. It's an everyday word, as "muthafucka" or the ghetto "yo dawg" in America (I'm guessing). As SL said, "nothing like a well-placed cunt". That's true.

Personally speaking, I don't like to use it in my writing, hence you might not see me using the word on a forum.

 

[SusanJillParker]

Whether the author is male or female, it's really not up to the author to use the word "cunt" or not. It's up to his or her character when to use the word. In the way of carefully using an exclamation point, sometimes the word is appropriate and sometimes it is not.

Sometimes the word is the right word in the correct instance. Other times, it's as much vulgar as calling someone an fucking asshole. Yet, one can be called a fucking asshole in a friendly and familiar way just as someone can be called a cunt and/or a nigger. It all depends on the circumstance and the connotation of when the word is used.

I enjoyed the way that Wild Bill Hickok descriptively used the word "cunt" in Deadwood when calling some man the lowest of names.

 

[CyranoJ]

I'm not suggesting the vicar uses it in his sermons

Amusing thought, though. "Today's sermon: Oi, Jesus makes you lot look a right bunch of cunts, innit."

They say cunt and I ask them what kind of asshole raised them to think that's funny [etc]

 

[sr71plt]

I'll go with Freddie on this one. A character using the word "cunt" can be more quickly characterized by that than by a string of descriptive adjectives and this is an erotica writing site. We're not writing for the Monthly PC Journal here--well, some of us aren't.

 

[CyranoJ]

In RL, Cunt is a common word around here. It's an everyday word, as "muthafucka" or the ghetto "yo dawg" in America (I'm guessing).

Closest North American equivalent as a ribald epithet that's socially acceptable on non-formal occasions is probably "bitch," which has gone more unisex over the last thirty years.

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[Messier82]

Provoking a violent reaction from a northerner is not necessarily the hardest thing in the world, it must be said.

Oi! You! Outside!!


Actually, I think you'll find that's a pretty outmoded view these days:
recent crime statistics, separated by Police Force area and given as a proportion per head of population, shows London (Met Police) to have almost double the rate of violent crime recorded compared to Newcastle-upon-Tyne (Northumbria Police).

Plus it's well documented how friendly northerners are, try starting a conversation on the London tube, then try it on the Tyneside Metro.
No comparison.