The flag is coming down.

Mr Ban Man.....why is wal mart, ebay etc banning Confederate stuff and not other stuff?

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Hooray and hallelujah. Symbolism over substance. Meaningless. The turning of a rag into a national obsession. A flag that flew over a building very few visited and even fewer ever looked up to see. A flag put there by the late, great, Fritz Hollings, democrat governor and senator from the great state of South Carolina. Not all that long ago either.

Tonight, nation wide, there are groups large and small, political and activist, patting them selves on the back for their great victory. Symbolism over substance. It's not like they recruited two regiments of black soldiers to fight for the union, or consistently came forth with piercing rhetoric to help change the goal of the Civil War from States Rights and Succession, to the elimination of slavery.

Or like MLK, who via rhetoric and action ended the era of Jim Crow.

No, they just got a rag removed from a building and in doing so have managed to turn the remaining rags into collectors items. Bravo you intrepid soldiers of nothing.

Lest you think I'm angry, I'm not. I'm disgusted that with all of the challenges facing this nations a rag has consumed so much time and thought. These warriors over nothing remind me of Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned.

Vat said it best in Mischa's thread, the power that that symbolic rag holds is all in your mind. It's living there rent free. And quite frankly you've insured that not only is it not going away, it has increased in value.

Congratulations on your meaningless victory.

Ishmael

Yes, it is symbolism. The Berlin Wall was symbolism. Reagan speaking in front of it was symbolism. MLK speaking in front of the Lincoln Memorial was as well. Lincoln speaking at Gettysburg on a battlefield was symbolism. Etc. etc.

In South Carolina, there is a lot of substance to go with that symbolism. And there are quite a few visitors every year to the State House. Buses from schools and tour groups usually line the street for tours of a very historic building.

The confederate flag was put up on the dome as a poke in the eye to the civil rights movement. It was done in the spirit of hatred and divisiveness. It has created division and has long been a distraction to getting the State's business done.

It never should've been put up. It's long overdue to come down. And from watching the process of taking it down, I see a lot of old animosity disappearing.

Yes, it is symbolism. But sometimes substance comes from removing symbols that create division. In this case, I believe it will and already has.
 
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Mr Mob, I did, you didnt like it.....soon you will BAN ME

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Neither the words "YES" nor "NO" appear in your posts. You didn't answer the question and are doing what you accuse liberals of doing.
 
Mr Ban Man is miffed

Miffed Miles

I'm laughing, actually.

You won't say yes or no because your answer doesn't jive with your argument.

End of debate. You lost. It's okay - it happens to everyone once in a while. :)
 
Foreign flags shouldnt, though they fo on State visits

Confederate flag isnt foreign

Miffed Mies, aka, Mr Ban Man foent get it
foreign

FOREIGN
[ ˈfôrən, ˈfär- ]
ADJECTIVE
of, from, in, or characteristic of a country or language other than one's own.

In other words, the Confederate flag.
 
The Confederate Flag debate - just another distraction from really having an honest talk about race. America is trying to put off this talk as much as possible but it has to happen. And it's going to be unpleasant.

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Bullshit. We've been talking about race for decades.
 
foreign

FOREIGN
[ ˈfôrən, ˈfär- ]
ADJECTIVE
of, from, in, or characteristic of a country or language other than one's own.

In other words, the Confederate flag.

the the Stars n Stripes with 13 stripes
 
The Confederate flag has not been banned, and neither have handguns. Two facts that people seem to have forgotten.
 
The Confederate flag has not been banned, and neither have handguns. Two facts that people seem to have forgotten.

On Wal Mart, E Bay etc, they have been

but Commie, Che, Hitler, etc shit hasnt
 
Will CuntClinton axe the retailers to STOP SELLING

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Commie shit?

Boldly Going Wherever Headlines Are Making Noise, Hillary Tells Retailers to Ban Confederate Flag


Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton on Tuesday urged all businesses to stop selling products with Confederate flag images, and praised Wal-Mart Stores Inc and other retailers for pulling flag-related items.


The businesses stopped selling the products after last week’s racially motivated attack on black worshippers at a church in Charleston. Leaders in South Carolina, including Governor Nikki Haley, have called for a Confederate battle flag to be removed from the State House grounds.

The flag is “a symbol of our nation’s racist past that has no place in our present or our future. It shouldn’t fly there. It shouldn’t fly anywhere,” Clinton said in Florissant, a St. Louis suburb near Ferguson, the site of violent protests last year after a young black man was killed by a white policeman.

She commended WalMart for removing products with images of the Confederate flag from its shelves. “Today, Amazon, eBay and Sears followed suit, and I urge all sellers to do the very same,” she said.

Usually a gifted waffler on any issues of substance, Mrs. Bill bravely commits herself to the ones that are noisy distractions but polling well that day. It would be safe to say that this probably had to be filtered through at least fifteen handlers before the opinion was added to the robotic front-runner’s programming. Imagine a presidency that’s almost entirely designed to react to whatever is trending at Salon that day and you will have a crystal clear vision of Clinton 3.0 in the Oval Office. After about six months of that, we will be pining for the president who was too lazy to pay attention to the news because all he wanted to do was golf.

Meanwhile, while the American political and chattering classes are busy eradicating the Dukes of Hazzard, these guys are still doing bad things.

Really bad things.
 
How about banning the most disgusting, despicable, degenerate, depraved book of unmitigated hate on the planet, the koran, the driver of islam, the greatest continuing crime against humanity, especially women, including little girls, the world has ever known?:cool:
 
I understand reality, far more than you. It's all tokenism. Symbolism over substance. The meaningful work has been done so all we're left with is parasites and disciples of Warhol looking for their 15 minutes of fame. Not unlike unlike you, someone that questions every thing and contributes nothing.

I fully understand your reticence in doing research, you're incapable. A decade of history here has shown that to be true.

Neither you, nor any of the other mental defectives, that have responded have done so with anything that remotely approaches some rebuttal, just 4th grade name calling. And for some reason you think I should take you seriously, why?

From my standpoint you're just another idiot that thinks this whole affair is important and will be anything more than a historical footnote,if remembered at all

It's a joke, a time wasting joke.

Ishmael

Complains about 4th grade name calling after calling others mental defectives then proceeds to call someone else an idiot.

Par for the course for Ish.. :rolleyes:
 
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