Are languages real?

[renard_ruse]

Some people think that a language is a thing, a real distinct entity. In reality its just an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate. Languages do not really exist.

 

[AllyRose]

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[Super-Surprise]

Some people think that a language is a thing, a real distinct entity. In reality its just an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate. Languages do not really exist.

Hello long lost brother of mike yates

 

[parodyluvr75]

Hello long lost brother of mike yates

Shaddup heathyr.

 

[Not Normal]

Some people think that a language is a thing, a real distinct entity. In reality its just an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate. Languages do not really exist.

actually the "lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate" are what makes makes the "arbitrary collection of sounds" a language.

 

[renard_ruse]

actually the "lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate" are what makes makes the "arbitrary collection of sounds" a language.

No, ultimately they do not.

 

[renard_ruse]

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My point exactly. Languages do not exist.

 

[renard_ruse]

The underlying point is that human "language" is simply a biological instinct that takes a social form to allow communication. The sooner we overcome the idea that language exists, the sooner we will liberate ourselves from its confines.

 

[Not Normal]

No, ultimately they do not.

You're making a statement without backing it up. Convince me Mr Smarty Pants. Of course, you're gonna need to you words to do that. And they need to be words that I understand.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Stjk lkl xi 9seef's sowe u3 *rrz.

 

[cjh]

Neki ljudi misle da je jezik stvar, pravi zaseban entitet. U stvarnosti je samo proizvoljna skup zvukova s ​​leksikona i sintakse kako bi se omogućilo ljudima da komuniciraju.

 

[Equinoxe]

You're making a statement without backing it up. Convince me Mr Smarty Pants. Of course, you're gonna need to you words to do that. And they need to be words that I understand.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually believe what he's saying; in fact, I'm pretty sure he regards it as ridiculous. He's using language as an analogue for another phenomenon which is more commonly regarded as not referring to any actual thing [morality, or some expression of it, I should imagine] which he regards as ridiculous.

[I think.]

 

[DesEsseintes]

Not Normal and Equinoxe are entirely right, of course, and the original statement is inherently self-contradictory. Language, like consciousness, is an emergent property. Just because there is no individual component which alone makes a language does not mean that we should refuse to recognise the whole.

 

[magicalmoments]

Some people think that a language is a thing, a real distinct entity. In reality its just an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate. Languages do not really exist.

I understand your point from an intellectual perspective.

Religion is in the same category.

 

[Brollyanna]

I understand your point from an intellectual perspective.

Religion is in the same category.

"Religion" is made up of organizations which manifestly exists. God, on the other hand...

 

[Liar]

Some people think that a language is a thing, a real distinct entity. In reality its just an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate. Languages do not really exist.

What makes "an arbitrary collection of sounds with a lexicon and syntax to allow people to communicate" not a real thing?

 

[glynndah]

"nothing is real".

 

[Brollyanna]

Arbitary collection of sounds?

 

[bronzeage]

My point exactly. Languages do not exist.

There's no such thing as color either. We've been tricked all these years.

Don't get me started on sound. No such fucking thing.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually believe what he's saying; in fact, I'm pretty sure he regards it as ridiculous. He's using language as an analogue for another phenomenon which is more commonly regarded as not referring to any actual thing [morality, or some expression of it, I should imagine] which he regards as ridiculous.

[I think.]

bingo...what he regards as ridiculous is the fact that we regard whatever it is as ridiculous.