Women can do anything a man can do.

[LJ_Reloaded]

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[InWord]

You are one little pansy assed bitch.

 

[Skiddles2015]

You are one little pansy assed bitch.

Yes he is.

 

[Jennifer]

I'd like to see some relevant statistics.

 

[jbr7885]

Looks like someone got beat like a read headed step child lol

 

[BotanyBoy]

Except pass basic US Army/Marine Corps Infantry standards.....

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

The lesbians are the ones who beat each other the most. That's probably where the half comes from, woman on woman.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The lesbians are the ones who beat each other the most. That's probably where the half comes from, woman on woman.

No...sorry....those stats are women on men.

The difference is the average damage done....men hospitalize their female victims almost 2x as often as women send guys to the ER. And women are rarely held liable for their assaults, because women.

But actual M<->F domestic violence incidence run about even steven. I might be mistaken but last numbers I saw from DOJ said it wanders 1-3% off of 50/50 either way on any given year.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

No...sorry....those stats are women on men.

The difference is the average damage done....men hospitalize their female victims almost 2x as often as women send guys to the ER. And women are rarely held liable for their assaults, because women.

But actual M<->F domestic violence incidence run about even steven. I might be mistaken but last numbers I saw from DOJ said it wanders 1-3% off of 50/50 either way on any given yer.

No, the CDC did a study for the first time in 2010 on this issue, breaking down domestic violence by gender as well as orientation. Here is the ranking of domestic violence, by percentage of people who reported they were a victim. From the highest percentage to the lowest:

1. Lesbian against lesbian
2. Gay male against gay male
3. Hetero male against hetero woman
4. hetero woman and hetero male

I will dig up the actual stats shortly.

(Granted, this is self-reported so one might make the argument that hetero men are less likley to report. But this is the best I can go on.)

Which stats are you referring to in particular?

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, the CDC did a study for the first time in 2010 on this issue, breaking down domestic violence by gender as well as orientation. Here is the ranking of domestic violence, by percentage of people who reported they were a victim. From the highest percentage to the lowest:

1. Lesbian against lesbian
2. Gay male against gay male
3. Hetero male against hetero woman
4. hetero woman and hetero male

I will dig up the actual stats shortly.

(Granted, this is self-reported so one might make the argument that hetero men are less likley to report. But this is the best I can go on.)

Which stats are you referring to in particular?

Yea get that link b/c everything I found on the issue says as a whole women and men initiate incidents of domestic violence at equal rates.

"Research showing that women are often aggressors in domestic violence has been causing controversy for almost 40 years, ever since the 1975 National Family Violence Survey by sociologists Murray Straus and Richard Gelles of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire found that women were just as likely as men to report hitting a spouse and men were just as likely as women to report getting hit. The researchers initially assumed that, at least in cases of mutual violence, the women were defending themselves or retaliating. But when subsequent surveys asked who struck first, it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence—a finding confirmed by more than 200 studies of intimate violence. "

http://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/

There are ones from FOX to the Huff all saying the same thing...DOJ and CDC.

Google provides page after page, left and right, all saying the same thing. No gender gets the high road or gets to play victim when it comes to DV. Not from the "who started it" perspective.......finishing is a whole nother story.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Here is the CDC report.

http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_SOfindings.pdf

And since it is a lot to read and digest, and a lot to pull toether in order to rank, here is an article on the subject The Advocate, a place where one might expect to claim that "heterosexual men are beating up their women regularly" when in fact they are claiming the opposite:

http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/04/2-studies-prove-domestic-violence-lgbt-issue

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Yea get that link b/c everything I found on the issue says as a whole women and men initiate incidents of domestic violence at equal rates.

"Research showing that women are often aggressors in domestic violence has been causing controversy for almost 40 years, ever since the 1975 National Family Violence Survey by sociologists Murray Straus and Richard Gelles of the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire found that women were just as likely as men to report hitting a spouse and men were just as likely as women to report getting hit. The researchers initially assumed that, at least in cases of mutual violence, the women were defending themselves or retaliating. But when subsequent surveys asked who struck first, it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence—a finding confirmed by more than 200 studies of intimate violence. "

http://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/

There are ones from FOX to the Huff all saying the same thing...DOJ and CDC.

Google provides page after page, left and right, all saying the same thing. No gender gets the high road or gets to play victim when it comes to DV. Not from the "who started it" perspective.......finishing is a whole nother story.

I just linked it.

It is a tricky question "who does it the most" - is it by sheer numbers or percentage? Issues like this can be sliced and diced in a number of ways, to push forth any narrative one wants. You really can't go by an article, and instead have to read a long dull report to get the answer. And even then, if you look at my link - I suggest start from page 22 - it all depends on how one adds it all up. Kinda like the stat "women earn 77 cents on the dollar compared to men" which is kinda sorta true if you view things narrowly... but if you weight all factors, it really is more like 90 cents.

 

[girlsmiley]

No, the CDC did a study for the first time in 2010 on this issue, breaking down domestic violence by gender as well as orientation. Here is the ranking of domestic violence, by percentage of people who reported they were a victim. From the highest percentage to the lowest:

1. Lesbian against lesbian
2. Gay male against gay male
3. Hetero male against hetero woman
4. hetero woman and hetero male

I will dig up the actual stats shortly.

(Granted, this is self-reported so one might make the argument that hetero men are less likley to report. But this is the best I can go on.)

Which stats are you referring to in particular?

Actually, here are the actual findings from that particular survey.

The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey
2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation


Key findings

Overall

• Bisexual women had significantly higher lifetime prevalence of rape and sexual violence other than rape by any perpetrator when compared to both lesbian and heterosexual women.

• Bisexual women had significantly higher lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, and/or
stalking by an intimate partner when compared to both lesbian and heterosexual women.

• Lesbian women and gay men reported levels of intimate partner violence and sexual violence equal to or higher than those of heterosexuals.




Sexual Violence by
any Perpetrator

• The lifetime prevalence of rape by any perpetrator was:

For women:

- Lesbian – 13.1%
- Bisexual – 46.1%
- Heterosexual – 17.4%

For men:

- Gay – numbers too small to estimate
- Bisexual – numbers too small to estimate
- Heterosexual – 0.7%



• The lifetime prevalence of sexual violence other than rape (including being made to penetrate, sexual coercion, unwanted sexual contact, and non-contact unwanted sexual experiences) by any perpetrator was:

For women:

- Lesbian – 46.4%
- Bisexual – 74.9%
- Heterosexual – 43.3%

For men:

- Gay – 40.2%
- Bisexual – 47.4%
- Heterosexual – 20.8%



Sex of Perpetrator among Rape Victims

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (98.3% and 99.1%, respectively) who experienced rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators.

Estimates for sex of perpetrator of rape for other groups.(lesbian women, gay and bisexual men) were based upon numbers too small to calculate a reliable estimate and, therefore, are not reportable.



Sex of Perpetrator among Victims of Sexual Violence Other than Rape

• The majority of lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual women (85.2%, 87.5%, and 94.7%, respectively) who experienced sexual violence other than rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators.

Shall we go on?

 

[girlsmiley]

Violence by an Intimate Partner

• The lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner was:

For women:

- Lesbian – 43.8%
- Bisexual – 61.1%
- Heterosexual – 35.0%

For men:

- Gay – 26.0%
- Bisexual – 37.3%
- Heterosexual – 29.0%



• The lifetime prevalence of severe physical violence by an intimate partner (e.g., hit with fist or something hard, slammed against something, or beaten) was:

For women:

- Lesbian – 29.4%
- Bisexual – 49.3%
- Heterosexual – 23.6%

For men:
- Gay – 16.4%
- Bisexual – numbers too small to report
- Heterosexual – 13.9%



Sex of Perpetrator of Intimate Partner Violence

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (89.5% and 98.7%, respectively) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence. Two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence.

• The majority of bisexual men (78.5%) and most heterosexual men (99.5%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence. Most gay men (90.7%) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I just linked it.

It is a tricky question "who does it the most" - is it by sheer numbers or percentage? Issues like this can be sliced and diced in a number of ways, to push forth any narrative one wants.

True...the stat's I'm talking about are generally of overall crime crime reports and studies done by nationally accredited institutes of higher learning and or research. And they all say women are just as violent as men.

You really can't go by an article, and instead have to read a long dull report to get the answer. And even then, if you look at my link - I suggest start from page 22 - it all depends on how one adds it all up.

Sorry....if I don't take your word over 40 years of compiled data studied over 200 times by nationally accredited schools. Even if the results are published in an article.

You can break it down however you want....but when it comes to who resorts to physical domestic violence, women start shit just as much as men. They just get their ass kicked a lot more often and a lot harder. But they are also just as violent.

Kinda like the stat "women earn 77 cents on the dollar compared to men" which is kinda sorta true if you view things narrowly... but if you weight all factors, it really is more like 90 cents.

It's not until you get to the ultra fuckin rich CEO/CFO billionaire club level where lots of old money is hanging around do you find like the entirety of the last vestage of MvF income disparity. For the other 99% of us it's pretty fuckin' fair...in fact (according to a report I read about a year ago) over 600 job/career fields pay women more across the board on average because women. Women who do the time and rock the job like a baus become the bause just fine post 2000....

America is pretty fuckin' sweet and one of the most even handed nations I've been to as far as gender/race/religion go...and I've been all over the fuckin' planet. We just like to scream victim over every thing we can possibly worm because we might get some shit for it....at the very least an "awww #supporttehvictims" warm fuzzy.

That's not to say women don't have their struggles as women in the modern era...I just don't think they are the same problems they had in 1950, a lot of women today don't understand their frustration so they fall back onto 1950's rage as an outlet for their anger and look like dipshits in the process.

I think the biggest problem for women in modern society is their own success.......that is to say being big bauss bidnizz lady isn't quite as glamorous as what she thought it was going to be, and is fuckin' pissed about how bad 90hr work weeks really are.

Equal treatment....they want to be baus lady and treated like just one of the guys, some do this marvelously, some are totally appalled at what it really means and want to be treated like a lady too. Can't have yer cake and eat it too....and it's got some girls BENT. Bad case of the grass not REALLY being all that greener....there is always a price to pay and now as women REALLy start to work their way into big bidnizz they are starting to realize it. /rage...alcoholic bidnizz mom goes home every day after a 12-15hr day, beats the kids, kicks the dog....shit talks hubby...cries about what a fucking victim of her own vag she is. Congrats you went into business, sacrificed EVERYTHING for it and turned out exactly like your workaholic rage tastic abusive father.....equality is a fuckin' bitch ain't it?

Men and women are not very different with regards to turning into giant scum bags under huge amounts of pressure and it's becoming more and more apparent the more and more gender roles fade out.

All this DV talk makes me want to watch COPS....

HUH!! Watcha gon'! Whacha gonna DEWW!!
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[LadyFunkenstein]

Girlsmiley can you simply type out a response instead of the screaming c&p? Your posts hurt my eyes. Why are you being so inflammatory when you can simply say what you have to say?

What I gather is that you have selected the stats about bisexuals having their asses kicked the most? Is that a surprise to you? That makes a lot of sense to me. I will be non pc and just state that they seem to be the most damaged out of everyone, so wonder they find themselves in violent situations. (Except for transgenders, who are mentally the most damaged of all. But they aren't a part of the poll.) Many are only "bisexual" when drunk or doing drugs. Truck stop cocksuckers are included in those stats, and those people are fucked in the head. Same with those female stripperish cutter types who dominate the bi girl narrative.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Sorry....if I don't take your word over 40 years of compiled data studied over 200 times by nationally accredited schools. Even if the results are published in an article.

I didn't tell you to take my word; I gave you a link from the CDC. If you don't want to read it, that is fair enough. But no need to slam me for that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I didn't tell you to take my word; I gave you a link from the CDC. If you don't want to read it, that is fair enough. But no need to slam me for that.

I read it....and it breaks things down totally differently and gives you different results completely unrelated to what I was taking about, who's more violent?

Nothing in there refutes the fact that women initiate physical domestic violence at equal rates as men.

It does tell you what kind of couples (based on sexual orientation) are the most violent against their partners though.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Equal treatment....they want to be baus lady and treated like just one of the guys, some do this marvelously, some are totally appalled at what it really means and want to be treated like a lady too. Can't have yer cake and eat it too....and it's got some girls BENT. Bad case of the grass not REALLY being all that greener....there is always a price to pay and now as women REALLy start to work their way into big bidnizz they are starting to realize it. /rage...alcoholic bidnizz mom goes home every day after a 12-15hr day, beats the kids, kicks the dog....shit talks hubby...cries about what a fucking victim of her own vag she is. Congrats you went into business, sacrificed EVERYTHING for it and turned out exactly like your workaholic rage tastic abusive father.....equality is a fuckin' bitch ain't it?

I think this is true. But few people are self aware enough to know it.

No worries, we (or I should say younger women new to the workforce)are being persuaded into believing that sacrificing your life for work while numbing the inevitable boredom & frstration with booze is the norm. In fact it is glamorous:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1124243

 

[girlsmiley]

Girlsmiley can you simply type out a response instead of the screaming c&p? Your posts hurt my eyes. Why are you being so inflammatory when you can simply say what you have to say?

What I gather is that you have selected the stats about bisexuals having their asses kicked the most? Is that a surprise to you? That makes a lot of sense to me. I will be non pc and just state that they seem to be the most damaged out of everyone, so wonder they find themselves in violent situations. (Except for transgenders, who are mentally the most damaged of all. But they aren't a part of the poll.) Many are only "bisexual" when drunk or doing drugs. Truck stop cocksuckers are included in those stats, and those people are fucked in the head. Same with those female stripperish cutter types who dominate the bi girl narrative.

No, I posted the key findings from the survey you linked.

You claimed to have read it, and now all of a sudden you claim the first 2 pages of the report are "hurting your eyes".

Quelle surprise.

 

[girlsmiley]

No, the CDC did a study for the first time in 2010 on this issue, breaking down domestic violence by gender as well as orientation. Here is the ranking of domestic violence, by percentage of people who reported they were a victim. From the highest percentage to the lowest:

1. Lesbian against lesbian
2. Gay male against gay male
3. Hetero male against hetero woman
4. hetero woman and hetero male

I will dig up the actual stats shortly.

(Granted, this is self-reported so one might make the argument that hetero men are less likley to report. But this is the best I can go on.)

Which stats are you referring to in particular?

I've posted the actual findings from that survey for you.

You're welcome.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think this is true. But few people are self aware enough to know it.

Right....also society isn't aware enough. Women living this kind of lifestyle is relatively brand spankin' new and changes on this scale take time for everyone as a group to catch up and really understand them.

No worries, we (or I should say younger women new to the workforce)are being persuaded into believing that sacrificing your life for work while numbing the inevitable boredom & frstration with booze is the norm. In fact it is glamorous:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1124243

There you go...some will be drawn to it....I personally don't get it but whatever works for them right? Shit's funny.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Right....also society isn't aware enough. Women living this kind of lifestyle is relatively brand spankin' new and changes on this scale take time for everyone as a group to catch up and really understand them.



There you go...some will be drawn to it....I personally don't get it but whatever works for them right? Shit's funny.

Women living this lifestyle aren't brand spanking new. I am the first generation that fell for this. I work like a dog, I drink like a fish, I make a lot of money, I live alone, I usually have a fuck toy (but not anymore, new bf), I don't have children. It's a bore.

The problem is that the other women who are living this life aren't telling the truth to the younger ones who are in their early 20s. And now we are making viral videos that don't admit how empty and boring it is.

 

[toubab]

Women living this lifestyle aren't brand spanking new. I am the first generation that fell for this. I work like a dog, I drink like a fish, I make a lot of money, I live alone, I usually have a fuck toy (but not anymore, new bf), I don't have children. It's a bore.

The problem is that the other women who are living this life aren't telling the truth to the younger ones who are in their early 20s. And now we are making viral videos that don't admit how empty and boring it is.

Check this out, Funk:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/women-with-ph-d-s-buck-the-trend-toward-a-baby-bust/

Seems some women are making up lost ground.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Women living this lifestyle aren't brand spanking new. I am the first generation that fell for this. I work like a dog, I drink like a fish, I make a lot of money, I live alone, I usually have a fuck toy (but not anymore, new bf), I don't have children. It's a bore.

REally? Do tell...how long have women been running big bidnezz then? 100 years? 200 years? Did they start and control the industrial revolution or some shit? Wheres all that old Rockefeller money at??

Because I'm pretty fucking sure they werent' allowed to do a fuckin' thing right up until just a few generations ago and never before in the numbers we have today.

Yea...women as anything more than a coffee bitch/answering machine with tits in big bidness outside the sex industry is pretty brand new as far as societal terms go.

My grandmother grew up in a world where women were unable to own property and was one of the first and only female CEO's in the construction industry back in the last 60's early 70's....that wasn't very long ago. She didn't have a single female competitor until the 90's...

Women being large and in charge is pretty new....women being large and in charge on the scale they are now, especially in a western industrialized 1st world is unprecedented and brand spakin' new. And the consequences of these changes whatever they may be are coming with it.

The problem is that the other women who are living this life aren't telling the truth to the younger ones who are in their early 20s. And now we are making viral videos that don't admit how empty and boring it is.

Chasing paper is addicting...some just aren't really prepared to pay the price.

It's like all the SOCOM/high speed military units....people are all "oh cool job you fly and F22/spec ops wow!!" or champion athletes....all same overachiever issues as the successful bidnizz person. It's a life consuming endeavor for that person...it's not a wage job you can just turn off when you punch the clock and it fucks a lot of folks in the head. You gotta be a borderline whack job sociopath to kick ass in a capitalist society....

And some folks just....

Well.....
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