No Women Pass Marine Officer Test, So They are Ordered to Lower the Standard

The truth is, men and women are different, each have their strengths and weaknesses, and the U.S. Forces should be the best of the best, regardless of the job category (MOS). The U.S. is THE world's Super Power, and unfortunately, often the World Police.

Women should not be in any Infantry/Combat related specialties- period. We should NEVER have to worry about a female troop becoming a prisoner- our enemies WILL exploit the female gender. There should only be ONE physical fitness standard, and that standard MUST NOT be lowered to accommodate women; it's irrational, works against the concept of merit based selection, damages morale, introduces the opposite sex into an environment filled with 18-20 year old semen laden young men at a time when they're highly stressed- it's distracting, it's difficult to have unit cohesion when guys are competing for a woman's attention, and it rewards mediocrity and/or failure. Most important- the concept of women in combat roles only exists for political reasons; there is no logical purpose for it, because we've never had a shortage of men to fill the infantry billets.

We've already seen what happens when women are on naval vessels- pregnancies, and a major increase in sexually related incidents. Again, the only reason women are there is politics.

I have no problem with women in military assignments where there is no chance of combat and capture. But WAR requires strength and muscular endurance, and it sometimes requires savagery.

This whole political agenda of women in combat roles is illogical, dangerous, and most importantly- UNnecessary for any reason.
 
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The truth is, men and women are different, each have their strengths and weaknesses, and the U.S. Forces should be the best of the best, regardless of the job category (MOS). The U.S. is THE world's Super Power, and unfortunately, often the World Police.

Women should not be in any Infantry/Combat related specialties- period. We should NEVER have to worry about a female troop becoming a prisoner- our enemies WILL exploit the female gender. There should only be ONE physical fitness standard, and that standard MUST NOT be lowered to accommodate women; it's irrational, works against the concept of merit based selection, damages morale, introduces the opposite sex into an environment filled with 18-20 year old semen laden young men at a time when they're highly stressed- it's distracting, it's difficult to have unit cohesion when guys are competing for a woman's attention, and it rewards mediocrity and/or failure. Most important- the concept of women in combat roles only exists for political reasons; there is no logical purpose for it, because we've never had a shortage of men to fill the infantry billets.

We've already seen what happens when women are on naval vessels- pregnancies, and a major increase in sexually related incidents. Again, the only reason women are there is politics.

I have no problem with women in military assignments where there is no chance of combat and capture. But WAR requires strength and muscular endurance, and it sometimes requires savagery.

This whole political agenda of women in combat roles is illogical, dangerous, and most importantly- UNnecessary for any reason.

So what you are saying here, is that a woman who is fully qualified and wants to be in a combat unit, should be denied that opportunity because she may be taken prisoner, and that would offend your delicate sensibilities?

Pull up your big boy panties and get over yourself.
 
There are no women fully qualified....unless the standard is lowered
 
There are no women fully qualified....unless the standard is lowered

Maybe when you were in. Not true when I was. I'm considerably younger than you though. The packs weren't as ergonomic in WWII from what I see in old movies.
 
There are no women fully qualified....unless the standard is lowered
Busybody NAILS it!
What is required of the women is not identical to that of the men. And remember, we're talking about Infantry school- not basic training. There should only be ONE standard for Infantry, and it shouldn't be lowered.
 
This is a classic example of liberal Bizarro World logic....if people can't meet the requirements, lower them. Problem solved!
 
Why do you assume that the US Marine attains such an exceptional standard.

Standards for Russian special forces for example are considerably tougher, significant numbers die in training. Gurkha recruits pass tougher tests before they are even enlisted and most of them are less than 140 pounds. Best soldiers in the world though.

The USSR was the only major nation to use considerable numbers of women in combat roles. They did so on the principle that the brass didn't mind if the women were killed. Russian female snipers for example, were notoriously poor - they'd get off one shot, fail to move and be killed themselves. But the generals reasoned that as they were fighting an enemy that kept all their women at home, any success was a bonus, and the only downside was a dead second rate soldier.

Mebbe the American forces should use the female failures as cannon fodder rather than waste the superior resource - the trained Marine. But Americans would need to get over their squeamishness about dead women. Until they do it's absurd to put females in combat roles.
 
Mebbe the American forces should use the female failures as cannon fodder rather than waste the superior resource - the trained Marine. But Americans would need to get over their squeamishness about dead women. Until they do it's absurd to put females in combat roles.

I agree
 
Busybody NAILS it!
What is required of the women is not identical to that of the men. And remember, we're talking about Infantry school- not basic training. There should only be ONE standard for Infantry, and it shouldn't be lowered.

you don't get it

LIB/CUNTCLINTON voters don't deal in reality, they pretend facts aren't facts
 
Why do you assume that the US Marine attains such an exceptional standard.

Standards for Russian special forces for example are considerably tougher, significant numbers die in training. Gurkha recruits pass tougher tests before they are even enlisted and most of them are less than 140 pounds. Best soldiers in the world though.

Toughness doesn't have fuck to do with standards. I've worked with both Spetsnaz and Gurkha's and they didnt' know/couldn't do all kinds of shit that we could.

Tough training doesn't equate to good training.....

And the rest of what you said was antiquated bullshit from a bygone era proven to be complete bullshit. Kill yourself.
 
If they can't do it then they can't do it. I hope they wait for someone who can instead of lowering for those who can't.
 
it will be lowered

diversity uber alles


after all, the Army values it more then winning wars
 
If they can't do it then they can't do it. I hope they wait for someone who can instead of lowering for those who can't.

Negative....liburhul M'uricuh sayz fuck standards, it's more important to have women on the team than competent commandos.
 
Toughness doesn't have fuck to do with standards. I've worked with both Spetsnaz and Gurkha's and they didnt' know/couldn't do all kinds of shit that we could.

Tough training doesn't equate to good training.....

And the rest of what you said was antiquated bullshit from a bygone era proven to be complete bullshit. Kill yourself.

Interesting response - way over the top anger, I wonder at what point you achieved your personal failure. I still think that there are a number of other special forces who are at least as good if not better than the US equivalents.

What are the "all kinds of shit" you refer to. I am surprised that you claim the US serviceman has no toughness standards.
 
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