Hilary is running .
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Sean Renaud
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CNN is covering it to, supposedly she announced on social media but I don't see it on youtube, nothing on my (rarely used and thus underfriended) Facebooks or Twitter accounts. I assume someone will deliver the actual video soon. So that brings us up to three candidates right now?
Clinton as the only official (or even really on the radar) on the Left.
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz on the right. (With Jeb Bush as a strong potential floating around.)
Clinton as the only official (or even really on the radar) on the Left.
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz on the right. (With Jeb Bush as a strong potential floating around.)
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She's been running ever since her disaster of a "book tour" launched. This is just the big media platform launch by her corporate backers.
It makes me really fucking sad to think that, unless something major changes in the next few weeks, the most serious challengers to her are going to be Joe Biden and Martin O'Malley.
So far, O'Malley's messaging is on point with what the younger and smarter people in the base want. Unfortunately, unlike Obama, he has an extensive record in executive policymaker positions, so it's insanely easy to see that he's lying about actually supporting that.
Biden is, well, Biden.
It makes me really fucking sad to think that, unless something major changes in the next few weeks, the most serious challengers to her are going to be Joe Biden and Martin O'Malley.
So far, O'Malley's messaging is on point with what the younger and smarter people in the base want. Unfortunately, unlike Obama, he has an extensive record in executive policymaker positions, so it's insanely easy to see that he's lying about actually supporting that.
Biden is, well, Biden.
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I'm not a Hillary fan but aside from Warren there isn't anybody on the Left right now that I'm impressed with, certainly not enough to take a chance on something Hillary should be able to win.
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Given how much Warren hates the Clintons, it surprises me how concretely she took herself off the table for this cycle.
On the other hand, she had to be basically dragged kicking and screaming into the US Senate race after the Obama Administration stabbed her in the back on the CFPB.
It makes me think it's a combo of actually not wanting to run for that office and thinking she can use her position in the Senate to pressure the candidates who do run.
On the other hand, she had to be basically dragged kicking and screaming into the US Senate race after the Obama Administration stabbed her in the back on the CFPB.
It makes me think it's a combo of actually not wanting to run for that office and thinking she can use her position in the Senate to pressure the candidates who do run.
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senior citizen who charges Colleges $300K per speech AND has a 9 page list of demands
WEILL RUN AS CHAMPION OF MIDDLE CLASS
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Anyone who believes the Clintons give a single fuck about poor people is dangerously deluded.
The entire MO of the DLC was to turn the Democratic Party into the satellite branch of the Rockefeller Republicans, which didn't really do much to help Democrats do silly things like win national elections outside of Bill's in the early 80s-late 00s.
And that's leaving aside little things, like Hillary being raised in a solidly Republican household, her ties to Walmart and other abusive employers' financials, their membership in a blatantly racist country club, the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton are basically the white political version of Bill and Camille Cosby, or that Hillary has taken millions of dollars in donations from governments that brutally oppress women for this campaign.
The entire MO of the DLC was to turn the Democratic Party into the satellite branch of the Rockefeller Republicans, which didn't really do much to help Democrats do silly things like win national elections outside of Bill's in the early 80s-late 00s.
And that's leaving aside little things, like Hillary being raised in a solidly Republican household, her ties to Walmart and other abusive employers' financials, their membership in a blatantly racist country club, the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton are basically the white political version of Bill and Camille Cosby, or that Hillary has taken millions of dollars in donations from governments that brutally oppress women for this campaign.
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Citation?
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Google Warren's comments about how the Clintons handled the CitiGroup deal in the 1990s, read her books, or actually attend the coverage of her run for Senate against Brown.
Sean Renaud
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Nope. Provide citation. And a few comments here and there don't mean much, Hillary and Obama have comments they've tossed around and at the very least they don't hate each other.
You make a claim, you back it up. Or admit it's a combination of opinion and hearsay. It's not difficult.
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Don't tell me what to do.
I pointed you in the right direction, educate yourself. I'm not here to hold your hand and formally cite bits of common knowledge because you apparently can't be bothered to attend to retain information outside of what's on the nightly news.
Also, the most praise Warren has recently given is meaningless polite things like "Hillary's great" and saying people shouldn't pre-judge her positions--both things you'd say if you wanted to pressure a candidate to the left/not burn bridges.
Nothing Hillary Clinton ever says should ever be taken at face value. Fuck, look at her announcement video. She has top national communications experts trying to make her look appealing in that and she still has the lifeless eyes thing going on like she's waiting to zap the viewer with Force Lightning over the slightest offense.
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Like last time, the only thing Clinton has going for her is name recognition, money, and a somewhat competent ground operation in a few of the Super Tuesday states.
What balances that out is the fact that she's inherently unlikable, hires fucking morons for senior staff, and loathes actual retail politics.
I don't know why people assume she's unbeatable just because she keeps saying it and the MSM keeps saying. Hint: They said it last time, too, when the denizens of "Hillaryland" were busy bungling her campaign finances and trying to find their dicks with both hands.
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Then don't expect to be taken seriously clown.
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WEILL RUN AS CHAMPION OF MIDDLE CLASS
Here are some other pics of Hillary.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Hil...qBMvg8AXpp4DwDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1301&bih=516
Sean Renaud
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College Hillary was kinda dorky but cute.
Little girl Hillary looks like something out of one of those horror flicks from the 70's and 80's though. Like I can totally see this face:
"Come and play with me, we float down here. We all FLOAT!"
Little girl Hillary looks like something out of one of those horror flicks from the 70's and 80's though. Like I can totally see this face:
"Come and play with me, we float down here. We all FLOAT!"
Not compared to every single Pub contender in the field including Jeb, she ain't.
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Argumentum ad populum ("but...but...Everybody knows!") is a very popular deflection technique in Wingnut Nation.
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It's also usually true. If I say something like "Everybody knows the US used nuclear bombs against Japan during WW2" you certainly wouldn't ask me to prove it, even all I have is hearsay.
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The Republican Hate Machine convinced lower income white Republicans that Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya who hates whites.
The RHM will have a much easier time convincing lower income white Republicans that Hillary is a dominatrix who intends to castrate them and confiscate their guns.
The RHM will have a much easier time convincing lower income white Republicans that Hillary is a dominatrix who intends to castrate them and confiscate their guns.
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What I'm wondering is: Will Hillary hold all the Treasurys money in her private safe with her own money?
