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Unattached77 said:
Ah yes, the CF105 Arrow. The US screwed Canada on that one. The Arrow was a brilliant design, there are rumors of one being hidden away. How likely is that? Pretty low, but someone did try to do it. It was so close to happening that the guy was there with a tug ready to tow it to a secure location in the middle of the night. When he pulled up in the tug, he found the nose wheel had been cut off at the bottom. It really was a national catastrophe on many levels. So many ideas that were far ahead of their time.

As for being the only Canadian aircraft worth mentioning, I have to disagree. The DeHavilland Beaver is still a pretty amazing bird that is still serving faithfully 60 years later. The Otter is somewhat less important, but there are far less of them.
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It was just terrible timing. The space race shifted focus for militarization and our prime minister at the time was just as petty as most politicians so that the former liberal govt' program got the axe. Still a brutal decision that the Canadian aviation industry never recovered from (not to mention the 30,000+ people out of work).

Fair point! How could I forget the Beave?!? Lotta beaver out there. Valuable enough to some for complete airframe (everything but the serial #'s) rebuilds. Ensuring that they'll be around for decades to come.
 
SkAoUt said:
It was just terrible timing. The space race shifted focus for militarization and our prime minister at the time was just as petty as most politicians so that the former liberal govt' program got the axe. Still a brutal decision that the Canadian aviation industry never recovered from (not to mention the 30,000+ people out of work).

Fair point! How could I forget the Beave?!? Lotta beaver out there. Valuable enough to some for complete airframe (everything but the serial #'s) rebuilds. Ensuring that they'll be around for decades to come.
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You should read the book "Storms of Controversy" The space race had nothing to do with the Arrow being axed. The US saw it as a threat and managed to get Diefenbaker to buy the BOMARC missiles rather than fund the Arrow because they knew Canada couldn't do both. Canada was basicly strong armed into it by the threat of the US parking the nuclear BOMARCs along the US border so if there was an altercation with the USSR, it would happen over Canadian ground.

The Arrow was killed by politics, bad US politics at that. Such a shame.
 
Mosquitos rule. Rocket armed had the fire power of a cruiser. Bouncing bombs. Out run fighters. Carry the bomb load of a B-17. Night fighter. Long range high altitude recon. Intruder fighter-bomber. The only thing it wasn't was an air superiority fighter. Hell it even carried a 2lb anti-tank gun.
Kept all the piano and word working shops going during war.

The Diamond aircraft plant here in London, used to be DeHavilland during the war. They built wing sections for Mossies then assembled in T.O.

Hurricane is nice aircraft. Real sturdy workhorse. First metal wing monoplane in RAF, I think.

http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net/origin/123184/1892.jpg
 
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Hard_Rom said:
Mosquitos rule. Rocket armed had the fire power of a cruiser. Bouncing bombs. Out run fighters. Carry the bomb load of a B-17. Night fighter. Long range high altitude recon. Intruder fighter-bomber. The only thing it wasn't was an air superiority fighter. Hell it even carried a 2lb anti-tank gun.
Kept all the piano and word working shops going during war.

The Diamond aircraft plant here in London, used to be DeHavilland during the war. They built wing sections for Mossies then assembled in T.O.

Hurricane is nice aircraft. Real sturdy workhorse. First metal wing monoplane in RAF, I think.

http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net/origin/123184/1892.jpg
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The bouncing or 'skip' bombs like those used in the Rhine Dam Busting raids were to heavy for the Mosquito, and were carried by the British Lancaster.

But yes, the Mosquito was an extremely versatile plane and was kept in use by the RAF until the 50's, and by other Commonwealth nations into the 1960's.
 
Hard_Rom said:
Mosquitos rule. Rocket armed had the fire power of a cruiser. Bouncing bombs. Out run fighters. Carry the bomb load of a B-17. Night fighter. Long range high altitude recon. Intruder fighter-bomber. The only thing it wasn't was an air superiority fighter. Hell it even carried a 2lb anti-tank gun.
Kept all the piano and word working shops going during war.

The Diamond aircraft plant here in London, used to be DeHavilland during the war. They built wing sections for Mossies then assembled in T.O.

Hurricane is nice aircraft. Real sturdy workhorse. First metal wing monoplane in RAF, I think.

http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net/origin/123184/1892.jpg
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While it was a great plane and extremely versatile, the Mosquito could not carry more payload than the B-17. The B-17 could carry 8,000lbs and did to bomb Germany. The B-17 often carried less bomb payload in exchange for aux gas tanks for greater range (being mounted inside the Bomb Bay)

If you want to talk payload vs weight ratio that's another matter. It's like comparing a jeep to a tank.
 
snugglestruggle said:
While it was a great plane and extremely versatile, the Mosquito could not carry more payload than the B-17. The B-17 could carry 8,000lbs and did to bomb Germany. The B-17 often carried less bomb payload in exchange for aux gas tanks for greater range (being mounted inside the Bomb Bay)

If you want to talk payload vs weight ratio that's another matter. It's like comparing a jeep to a tank.
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Yes, the B-17 could carry up to 8000 lbs of bombs, but for short range missions only. Bombing raids to Berlin, because of the range, limited that payload to 2000 lbs.
 
Vulcan Bomber aerobatics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8rVwhnjBr4

Oops! On one of its last flying appearances, the Vulcan apparently made an illegal barrel roll. Video of the incident is being studied and might lead to awkward questions for the flight crew. The airworthiness certificate and permission to fly for displays excluded barrel rolls.
 
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The pink Spitfire is a PRU(Photo Reconnaissance Unit) Spitfire of the RAF. The Brits did some research into camouflage and discovered that when their photo-recon planes flew their missions over occupied Europe at dawn or dusk that pink colors would make the aircraft almost invisible to enemy planes and flak. The Spitfire pilots however hated flying the pink ones because they believed that it attracted too much attention.
The Brits also used pink to camouflage land vehicles like the famous "Pink Panther"Landrover used by the SAS in the desert. Pink was the best color to camouflage them.
 
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