Walter Scott shooting

[Lancecastor]

Absolutely right. US police are revenue collectors. It's completely bullshit. And as ish pointed out, it's debtors prison. But the single mom is the ideal consumer, I mean citizen, in America so we do everything we can to make it easy to have a child out of wedlock without facing financial repurcussions.

Remind me not to impregnate any American chix, m'kay?

 

[ShavedHed]

Remind me not to impregnate any American chix, m'kay?

Use protection. Give a phony name.

 

[Ishmael]

Remind me not to impregnate any American chix, m'kay?

Oh come on, your wealthy. You can afford a few 'babies mama's.' (I love that term. Impersonal with no attachment of any personal responsibility.

Funk has brought up the 'single mother' thing twice now. And while seemingly off topic it does tie in to this thread and Dolf's thread peripherally. It's all like a big tapestry.

Ishmael

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

They drive that car through a legal loop-hole.

The court orders the child support payment, the non-custodial parent doesn't pay, the court issues a bench warrant for contempt. Still debtors prison no matter how you swerve through the loop-hole.

Ishmael

Too goddamned funny. This ^^^^ liberal puissant calls supporting your kids DEBTORS PRISON. Next he'll wail it causes PTSD. Silly shit.

 

[Ishmael]

Oh my dear, what shall I do? JBJ has called me out as a liberal. *chuckle*

The correct term would be "Libertarian" in this case JBJ.

A man, or woman if the shoe fits, should pay for his/her children's upkeep and education, but do so as a matter of conscience and a sense of responsibility. I can't see how throwing the debtor in jail achieves the goal.

By the same token I can see no reason for the state to pay for the upkeep of the child either, or rather pay for mother to take care of her own children. This policy has not worked out to anyone's benefit, especially those children and mothers in the 'minority' communities. That particular experiment has turned out to be a horrendously expensive disaster. The decision to have a child should not have positive cash flow considerations associated with the decision.

Providing free abortions on demand for the needy/single mother would be a much sounder public policy, not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run. And to cover a base before the subject turns in that direction, NO, I do not believe that the state can, or should, order abortions.

In any event do try to keep your terminology straight in the future.

Ishmael

 

[Lancecastor]

Bottom line: cops aren't bill collectors; collections is a civil matter. Criminilizing debt is expensive and probably constitutionally repugnent.

And in this case, deadly.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Bottom line: cops aren't bill collectors; collections is a civil matter. Criminilizing debt is expensive and probably constitutionally repugnent.

And in this case, deadly.

Well, Lance, your knowledge is just a bit out of date. I was reading an article about the state of Alabama last week. Evidently, they took your advice and made it difficult if not impossible to jail folks over civil matters.

So now in Alabama when landlords sue to evict deadbeat tenants in civil court, they simultaneously sue them in criminal court for "theft of services" (claiming the landlord provides a 'service' in renting houses)....and the district attorneys are prosecuting renters now as evildoers!

 

[Lancecastor]

If you believe it is appropriate to use the police to deal with civil wrongs, Putin probably has a shot at becoming your next President.

 

[Ishmael]

Bottom line: cops aren't bill collectors; collections is a civil matter. Criminilizing debt is expensive and probably constitutionally repugnent.

And in this case, deadly.

I agree, but the proponents of this policy use the rationale that society has put these children on the public dole, therefore the debt is public debt.

Ishmael

 

[chillywilly2]

An interesting addition to the story.

The cops dashcam video is released.

Looks like the cop just got tired of chasing this guy and let his bullets do the running.
The guy gave the cop a reason by trying to disarm him.

When will people learn

Don't give a cop a reason to shoot you, because he will

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Oh my dear, what shall I do? JBJ has called me out as a liberal. *chuckle*

The correct term would be "Libertarian" in this case JBJ.

A man, or woman if the shoe fits, should pay for his/her children's upkeep and education, but do so as a matter of conscience and a sense of responsibility. I can't see how throwing the debtor in jail achieves the goal.

By the same token I can see no reason for the state to pay for the upkeep of the child either, or rather pay for mother to take care of her own children. This policy has not worked out to anyone's benefit, especially those children and mothers in the 'minority' communities. That particular experiment has turned out to be a horrendously expensive disaster. The decision to have a child should not have positive cash flow considerations associated with the decision.

Providing free abortions on demand for the needy/single mother would be a much sounder public policy, not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run. And to cover a base before the subject turns in that direction, NO, I do not believe that the state can, or should, order abortions.

In any event do try to keep your terminology straight in the future.

Ishmael

Scott got justice. He neglected his kids and died.

I had no idea you were a slimy limey liberal till I read your post. It explains why we loathe each other.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Was Scoot's car stolen? It wasn't his wheels. He told the cop I'M BUYIN IT but had no registration or nuthin on it.

Oh! And 80% of the cops in that town are Darkies.

THis lynching is falling apart like Gook sewing.

 

[Lancecastor]

Don't give a cop a reason to shoot you, because he will

"The best cop is a busy cop."

(busy with someone else)

 

[RobDownSouth]

Weird coincidence: Both the cop and the victim were Coast Guard veterans, and stationed in the same Coast Guard district (though separate duty stations, in separate years).

 

[JohnnySavage]

Weird coincidence: Both the cop and the victim were Coast Guard veterans, and stationed in the same Coast Guard district (though separate duty stations, in separate years).

Know why you have to be at least 6' tall to be in the Coast Guard?



In case the boat sinks, you can walk back to shore.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Weird coincidence: Both the cop and the victim were Coast Guard veterans, and stationed in the same Coast Guard district (though separate duty stations, in separate years).

Coast Guard = Pussy Patrol owned by the drug lords.

 

[chillywilly2]

Coast Guard = Pussy Patrol owned by the drug lords.

Thats the US, not Canada

 

[RobDownSouth]

Know why you have to be at least 6' tall to be in the Coast Guard?



In case the boat sinks, you can walk back to shore.

Oh my, I am going to make certain Coasties on my FB friends list squeal today!

 

[Lancecastor]

Coast Guard = Pussy Patrol owned by the drug lords.

A boatload of pot and bitches??? That sounds like fun....

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Coasties spend all their time on Snipe hunts.

Its not new. During the Civil War my family paid off US Navy captains so we could move our cotton from Florida to Nassau Bahamas. When the New Moon was high in the sky the Navy looked the other way as we sailed. We also looked the other way when the Navy came ashore for fresh water and food. The beef was waiting for them, hanging from the trees.

 

[RUlookingup]

This cop is going to jail.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Oh my dear, what shall I do? JBJ has called me out as a liberal. *chuckle*

The correct term would be "Libertarian" in this case JBJ.

A man, or woman if the shoe fits, should pay for his/her children's upkeep and education, but do so as a matter of conscience and a sense of responsibility. I can't see how throwing the debtor in jail achieves the goal.

By the same token I can see no reason for the state to pay for the upkeep of the child either, or rather pay for mother to take care of her own children. This policy has not worked out to anyone's benefit, especially those children and mothers in the 'minority' communities. That particular experiment has turned out to be a horrendously expensive disaster. The decision to have a child should not have positive cash flow considerations associated with the decision.

Providing free abortions on demand for the needy/single mother would be a much sounder public policy, not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run. And to cover a base before the subject turns in that direction, NO, I do not believe that the state can, or should, order abortions.

In any event do try to keep your terminology straight in the future.

Ishmael

The ability of a male (of any species) to further his genetic code without expending resources is not a bug, it is a feature. That is what allows the species to keep perpetuating itself.

Up until the 60s or so everyone understood that and such women were very very judicious about their sexual partners to ensure they were not bearing children without commitment. The results were financially devastating, for mother and child, as there was no safety net. The safety net today is welfare, wage garnishment, and the threat of imprisonment. It keeps the machine greased, the machine that is consumerism. The State executed this man for daring not play his role as a cog in the machine.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Well, Lance, your knowledge is just a bit out of date. I was reading an article about the state of Alabama last week. Evidently, they took your advice and made it difficult if not impossible to jail folks over civil matters.

So now in Alabama when landlords sue to evict deadbeat tenants in civil court, they simultaneously sue them in criminal court for "theft of services" (claiming the landlord provides a 'service' in renting houses)....and the district attorneys are prosecuting renters now as evildoers!

This is very alarming. Do you have a link to this article? I would like to read it.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

An interesting addition to the story.

The cops dashcam video is released.

Looks like the cop just got tired of chasing this guy and let his bullets do the running.
The guy gave the cop a reason by trying to disarm him.

When will people learn

Don't give The State a reason to shoot you, because it will

FYP.

That was not "a cop" shooting someone, it was The State in action.

 

[chillywilly2]

FYP.

That was not "a cop" shooting someone, it was The State in action.

I stand corrected, and agree