Should priests and pastors be required to conduct gay marriages?

[aqwertyuiop]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

Should they be fined or go to jail, if their religious scruples prohibit them from performing gay weddings?

 

[sr71plt]

I think that rabies most definitely shouldn't be forced to be part of a wedding ceremony--at least unless everyone has had their shots.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

They'll be foaming at the mouth in complying, no doubt.

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[cumcumcum555]

I think it should be an individual choice! This has gotten so out of hand. Shouldn't a priest, pastor, florist,etc be able to decline a venue no matter the reason. Everyone has gotten to the point now where they are like you can be opposed to anything and say anything because they are gay. A pastor could be opposed to someone marrying someone else of opposite sex because they are a criminal, bad business man, etc. this who gay rights thing has just gotten out of hand! Marry who ever you want I don't care. It has just gotten where everybody hollers if you say anything against gays. Some pastors don't marry people of different religions or faiths. I believe that is except able.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

Should they be fined or go to jail, if their religious scruples prohibit them from performing gay weddings?

Depends. Are these professionals who expect to be paid for their services? If so yes, they are running a business.

Or are these men of God who generally only perform marriages for members of their congregation or their close friends and family. If so no. They aren't slaves.

Maybe a fine, definitely not jail that would just be nuts and we have too many people in jail as it is. Whatever licensing is involved in allowing them to hold marriage ceremonies being revoked would be just fine. It's a job like any other. I promise you that if I looked around and saw lines waiting to get married I'd memorize the Bible take whatever tests are necessary (check the fine print on if I'm allowed to be a Rabid Rappin' Rabbi) do the same with the Torah (again with the fine print) brush up on the Koran and be the blessing marriages all day long and believe me you'd hear the conviction in my voice as I cashed every single check. Can I get an Amozeltof!

 

[FGB]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

Should they be fined or go to jail, if their religious scruples prohibit them from performing gay weddings?

Let me say this about that...

Priests, Pastors and Rabbi's have always made that decision because THEY are called into account before God for their actions and no one else. They are called on to make judgments about things pertaining to God not human Law at least not in this country.

As for rabies... I do not know.

 

[TamLin01]

Florists and bakers are not "participating" in the ceremonies, just selling goods that will later be used in them. Nothing in any religious text forbids the selling of cakes to gay people anyway.

As it stands, churches aren't required to marry anyone at all, so I don't see why that would change. Although the real solution to this made-up problem is for churches to stop being such wet blankets about the whole thing in the first place. That would solve everything.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Depends. Are these professionals who expect to be paid for their services? If so yes, they are running a business.

Or are these men of God who generally only perform marriages for members of their congregation or their close friends and family. If so no. They aren't slaves.

The RW has absolutely NO concept of this...at all in any capacity that has ever been demonstrated EVER.

Trying to explain it a billionth time isn't going to change it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The RW has absolutely NO concept of this...at all in any capacity that has ever been demonstrated EVER.

Trying to explain it a billionth time isn't going to change it.

Yeah, and it's sad. But I think a lot of them have this mistaken idea that the priests doing marriages these days are the same ones from fifty years ago where they were your pastor. They'd known you growing up most likely and were practically family. Not some guy you looked up in the yellow pages who obtained his license online after a two week crash course and probably only goes to churches to do weddings.

 

[ChinaBandit]

They'd known you growing up most likely and were practically family. .

Yeah, the perverted fuckers really tried to know you growing up....

 

[about_average]

Protestant homosexuals won't have any issues finding someone to marry them. If they attend church I'm sure it's a church that already recognizes they are human beings.
If they don't, then there are plenty of judges who will marry them I'm sure (don't forget that to be legally married a member of the clergy is in no way a legal requirement.

If they want a pastor and aren't a member of a church, they can probably get a Presbyterian pastor to marry them.

Many pastors still only marry couples who are church members.

 

[Pookie]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

Should they be fined or go to jail, if their religious scruples prohibit them from performing gay weddings?

Quarantined, but not fined.

 

[Lancecastor]

Looking back, I'm pretty sure my ex-wife had a visit from our local rabies.

 

[eyer]

Should priests and pastors be required to conduct gay marriages?

"required" by whom?

 

[RobDownSouth]

If it is a civil rights requirement that florists and bakers are forced to participate in gay marriage ceremonies, how about priests, pastors and rabies??

Should they be fined or go to jail, if their religious scruples prohibit them from performing gay weddings?

Of course not, you stupid son of a bitch.

Priests pastors and "rabies" (sic) are not regulated as commercial activities.

Florists and bakers are primarily commercial activities and are regulated as such.

 

[phrodeau]

All the holy people I know would only perform a wedding ceremony after a session of counseling with the couple. Fail the counseling session litmus test, and you don't get a wedding.

 

[sr71plt]

The question would only come into consideration if the priest, minister, or rabbi advertised wedding services to the general public. Short of that, it's an aspect of the services they render to a private organization they've been hired to provide exclusive services to. Same with the use of the church facilities themselves. No one is guaranteed a church wedding by a minister if they don't belong to that church or that church/minister doesn't advertise services to the general public.

Neither a church wedding nor one performed by an ordained minister register the legal union anyway. That's what getting the license from the state does, so there can't be a claim of being denied the right to marry.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Of course not, you stupid son of a bitch.

Priests pastors and "rabies" (sic) are not regulated as commercial activities.

Florists and bakers are primarily commercial activities and are regulated as such.

See that's the part that breaks the RW mind...they think because Jesus is mentions POOF!!! no longer commercial but religious.

LOL

 

[RobDownSouth]

See that's the part that breaks the RW mind...they think because Jesus is mentions POOF!!! no longer commercial but religious.

LOL

Jesus loves you too.

 

[KUJACK]

Religion

Gays should be allowed to get married, but the chruch is exempt from this. It's up to the priest/rabbi to decide. Constitutional issues.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Should a black preacher be required to marry two klan members dressed in their Ku Klux Klan garb?

I'm not advocating the ku Klux Klan members of the same thing as gay people. But you have to think about both sides of the story if you want to make someone marry someone else.

 

[TamLin01]

Wearing Klan robes is a political statement. Sexual orientation is a fundamental emotional/psychological marker. We don't apply the same policies to the two qualifications for a reason.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Wearing Klan robes is a political statement. Sexual orientation is a fundamental emotional/psychological marker. We don't apply the same policies to the two qualifications for a reason.

No it's not. They fundamentally think that people of different races are inferior to them based on their religious beliefs. They believe God has given them a superior race by birth. There's nothing political about that. As ridiculous as it is, it is at the core of their belief system.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Furthermore, should a gay priest be required to marry a couple who has the words "I hate fags" tattooed across their forehead?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Gays should be allowed to get married, but the chruch is exempt from this. It's up to the priest/rabbi to decide. Constitutional issues.

Nope.com. It's not a Constitutional Issue, it's a business one.

Should a black preacher be required to marry two klan members dressed in their Ku Klux Klan garb?

I'm not advocating the ku Klux Klan members of the same thing as gay people. But you have to think about both sides of the story if you want to make someone marry someone else.

While it's really disgusting that people compare these two things as equivalent. There is a gulf between, I love this person, and I want to kill you. But assuming they also paid for a team of Black Panther Snipers to assure the priest gets out alive there is no reason he shouldn't be. You lose a lot of those Constitutitional rights when you open a business.