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LincolnDuncan

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A young couple meet an older couple. They try bi sex for the fist time. One of the couples find that bi sex puts them in touch with a submissive side of which they were not previously aware.
 
A young couple meet an older couple. They try bi sex for the fist time. One of the couples find that bi sex puts them in touch with a submissive side of which they were not previously aware.
Then what? Where's the drama, the comedy, the plot? Or is this just a report on their interactions? There's nothing wrong with a straight stroker, sure, but a plot is more readable. Here are some plot structures:

BASIC--
1 Anticipation (The Call, The Fall, Greed)
2 Dream (Initial Success or Fascination; The Journey w/tests)
3 Frustration (Confronting the Real Enemy; The Central Crisis)
4 Nightmare (Disaster, Final Ordeals)
5 Resolution (Victory, Escape, The Goal)

COMEDY--
1 Under the Shadow (confusion, uncertainty, frustration, separation)
2 Tightening the Knot (confusion worsens into a nightmarish tangle)
3 Resolution (revelations, new perceptions, transformed situation, joy)

EROTICA --> Character + Setting + Plot + Hot Sex

One way to handle it is to inject your mature-bi-swing bunny into an existing plot. Change the names, of course. Remember, great artists steal.
 
Then what? Where's the drama, the comedy, the plot? Or is this just a report on their interactions? There's nothing wrong with a straight stroker, sure, but a plot is more readable. Here are some plot structures:

BASIC--
1 Anticipation (The Call, The Fall, Greed)
2 Dream (Initial Success or Fascination; The Journey w/tests)
3 Frustration (Confronting the Real Enemy; The Central Crisis)
4 Nightmare (Disaster, Final Ordeals)
5 Resolution (Victory, Escape, The Goal)

COMEDY--
1 Under the Shadow (confusion, uncertainty, frustration, separation)
2 Tightening the Knot (confusion worsens into a nightmarish tangle)
3 Resolution (revelations, new perceptions, transformed situation, joy)

EROTICA --> Character + Setting + Plot + Hot Sex

One way to handle it is to inject your mature-bi-swing bunny into an existing plot. Change the names, of course. Remember, great artists steal.

If I knew, I'd write the story myself.

I'm just a guy who comes up with dirty ideas.
 
If I knew, I'd write the story myself.

I'm just a guy who comes up with dirty ideas.

Write down them dirty ideas and you're an Author. :cool:

Here's the easy say: Visualize the story in your mind. Now, blog it. Write a diary-type narrative of what the movie in your head looks like. Include as little or as much description as you wish. Then take that framework and flesh it out. No rush, just let it happen. It's a great way to set those dirty ideas out to dry.
 
Write down them dirty ideas and you're an Author. :cool:

Here's the easy say: Visualize the story in your mind. Now, blog it. Write a diary-type narrative of what the movie in your head looks like. Include as little or as much description as you wish. Then take that framework and flesh it out. No rush, just let it happen. It's a great way to set those dirty ideas out to dry.

Thank you.
 
A young couple meet an older couple. They try bi sex for the fist time. One of the couples find that bi sex puts them in touch with a submissive side of which they were not previously aware.

I would start with one of the couples, say, the younger couple.

Set the stage. They live together in a big city. Both are attractive young executive types. She's a secretary, he's a stock broker or something. They're not married. Her mom calls and bugs her about that. At work she's flirting with her older boss. boyfriend just works hard, drinks with his male buddies after work. He checks out how large his buddy's dick is out of the corner of his eye while they are pissing in the john. Hint, hint, he’s bi.

Scene 2, after work, the young couple have dinner together. Chat about the day. TV is going. Very routine. later in bed they have sex, or try to. He can't get up and rolls off of her sweating and humiliated. She's frustrated, rolls over and goes to sleep. He gets up and goes into the dark living room, jacks off to internet porn alone.

Scene 3, Morning. It's a rush to work for boyfriend. After he's gone, girlfriend's boss calls and tells her he's out for the morning, so no rush to work for her. She sits down at the computer to do some online shopping, but stumbles into her boyfriend's browsing history. Clicks on a bisexual video. Her boyfriend has been watching guys sucking guys, wives with dildos fucking their husband, etc. She's shocked. Goes to work shaken, aroused but worried.

Scene 4, Afternoon. Girlfriend doing the secretary thing for boss. Boss calls her in his office and makes pass at her. Images of the her boyfriend’s internet videos pass through her head. One of a husband sucking a big black cock with wife and talking dirty is stuck in her head. Instead of rejecting her boss’ pass, she gives him a blow job on her knees... At first she's not into it, just doing it because she's avenging her boyfriend’s porn but by the end she's cumming too, the boss' big penis pumping cum between her tits.

Scene 5, That evening after dinner the girlfriend confronts her boyfriend with his browsing history and demands to know if he is bisexual. Is he having sex with guys? Is he fucking queer? He's humiliated. There's a bit of shouting. Then she blurts out that she sucked her boss' cock today. He's falls back in his chair and mumbles "oh, my God, oh my god." That night he fucks the shit out her for the first time in ages like a real stud, doggy style, her face in a pillow.

Scene 6, Next week, girlfriend is having full on sex with her boss in a motel room, the boss is fucking her all the time now... then she goes home where her boyfriend is waiting for her. He undresses her and caresses her bite marks and licks her pussy...has sex with her too.

Now there are lots of ways to go from here. But if you want to write a short jack off story, go with the boss inviting the girlfriend and her boyfriend over for dinner and it turning into a foursome with the boss's wife. Start with wife swapping, then the boss turns his attention of the boyfriend and just put in the kind of bi sex you like.

Personally, I would go darker and have the boss start paying the secretary/girlfriend to have sex with him and the company's clients at business conventions. She has to do it for her job. Her boyfriend wants her to quit, but they are both turned on as well as frightened. The boss's wife makes appearances now and she knows everything. She caresses the girlfriend and calms her down after a rough cum soaked gang bang scene. Then the boyfriend gets involved by secretly following his girlfriend to one of these sex parties and watching her being a slut for several men through a curtain on a motel window. Boss' wife is sitting there, full dressed in the room watching the sex as well.

When the boss' wife steps outside for a smoke she catches the boyfriend jacking off in the bushes. Thinking he might be detective of a rival company, she calls out some of the men who were fucking the girlfriend and they chase and catch the boyfriend, beat him and drag him back to the motel room to interrogate him. But when his girlfriend sees him, his pants still down, she screams out his name. She tells her boss her boyfriend is bi and knows everything. The boss pushes her boyfriend down on his knees and feeds him cock. The girlfriend join her boyfriend submissively and they give double head to the boss together while the boss' wife watches and slowly undresses,. The boss' clients masturbate quietly watching and waiting for their turn with the young couple....

Final scene – The young couple are having a beautiful church wedding. Mom is finally happy. The newly weds leave the church in a limo that drives them to a dock where they board a luxury cruise ship for their honeymoon. As they wave goodbye to their family and friends from the deck, the girlfriend’s old boss and his wife appear on deck with them and the four head inside to the boss’ state room…
 
That's one way to go. You have a lot of interesting ideas. I wasn't necessarily thinking of their lives as a train wreck. Two couples meet at a swinger party. The younger couple is surprised to be attracted to the two older swingers. After some good hetero sex and the development of their friendship, the older couple invites them to their vacation home for the weekend. Here the bi sex takes place. Two of the four find a submissive side that they didn't know existed. Maybe the other two find a dominant side. It could be couple topping couple or maybe the older male tops the younger and the younger female tops the older. Anything to make it different.
 
That's one way to go. You have a lot of interesting ideas. I wasn't necessarily thinking of their lives as a train wreck. Two couples meet at a swinger party. The younger couple is surprised to be attracted to the two older swingers. After some good hetero sex and the development of their friendship, the older couple invites them to their vacation home for the weekend. Here the bi sex takes place. Two of the four find a submissive side that they didn't know existed. Maybe the other two find a dominant side. It could be couple topping couple or maybe the older male tops the younger and the younger female tops the older. Anything to make it different.

Lincoln, the thing is that life is always messy. Nothing is ever neat and clean in the real world. Any kind of sexual situation is fraught with risks and tensions. A good story has to reflex the human condition which is always fundamentally pathetic, if beautiful and erotic.

Let's face it, a young couple submissive fucking an older couple in bisexual glory is always going to be hot and nasty to some degree. It never happens in a vacuum. There is always money, or drugs, or power, or fear, or some kind of insatiable lust due an early trauma involved, even if just tangentially.

What you are saying is that you want an airbrushed Playboy centerfold story, all surface and no depth. An idealised fantasy, not some quirky situational representation. That's fine, but you write well enough for that yourself. Just make up a symbolic fairy tale where the elements sexually arouse you.

But if you want to get down to what it is really like to organise from start to finish a group sex situation with your wife and another couple, there are lots of emotional whirlpools, loose ends, irrational and rational fears and power plays involved that are more David Lynch than Walt Disney. Just saying.

Most writers think you can only write convincingly about stuff you already know something about. So if you haven't had bisex or done any real swinging, the next best thing is to sign up to a dating website and meet some real people who are into this shit. Do your research. Have phone sex with guys who like to jerk off talking about sharing their wives. That will give you some gritty material quickly.
 
Lincoln, the thing is that life is always messy. Nothing is ever neat and clean in the real world. Any kind of sexual situation is fraught with risks and tensions. A good story has to reflex the human condition which is always fundamentally pathetic, if beautiful and erotic.

Let's face it, a young couple submissive fucking an older couple in bisexual glory is always going to be hot and nasty to some degree. It never happens in a vacuum. There is always money, or drugs, or power, or fear, or some kind of insatiable lust due an early trauma involved, even if just tangentially.

What you are saying is that you want an airbrushed Playboy centerfold story, all surface and no depth. An idealised fantasy, not some quirky situational representation. That's fine, but you write well enough for that yourself. Just make up a symbolic fairy tale where the elements sexually arouse you.

But if you want to get down to what it is really like to organise from start to finish a group sex situation with your wife and another couple, there are lots of emotional whirlpools, loose ends, irrational and rational fears and power plays involved that are more David Lynch than Walt Disney. Just saying.

Most writers think you can only write convincingly about stuff you already know something about. So if you haven't had bisex or done any real swinging, the next best thing is to sign up to a dating website and meet some real people who are into this shit. Do your research. Have phone sex with guys who like to jerk off talking about sharing their wives. That will give you some gritty material quickly.

Actually, I'm not saying any of that. I'm not a writer which I why I just make suggestions. If someone wants to take one of my ideas and develop it with their creative skills, I'll be happy to read it.
 
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