The NRA wants guns in schools, but not at their convention

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Working guns prohibited at NRA convention

he National Rifle Association’s annual convention kicks off in Nashville this week, with 70,000 people expected to participate in the three-day gathering.

Attendees can expect to find the usual NRA fare and exhibitors at the 350,000-square-foot Music City Center, but they shouldn’t expect to find functioning weapons. The Tennessean reports this week on the “multilevel security plan,” which includes an important safety measure: “All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, and any guns purchased during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification.”

This is presumably because several Republican politicians will be there. So guns around children at school are OK, but not around politicians at a gun convention.
Irony, it's what's for breakfast..

 

[phrodeau]

It was late last year when reliable ammo for plastic guns hit the market. Loaded firearms are now undetectable, and this is the first NRA convention since.

Those who need their pertection from whutever will have it, law or no law.

 

[about_average]

I'm pretty sure this is about guns on display and or for sale, not about personal carry firearms.
There may or may not be a prohibition of CCW for attendees, but from the wording I'm pretty sure this isn't it.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm pretty sure this is about guns on display and or for sale, not about personal carry firearms.
There may or may not be a prohibition of CCW for attendees, but from the wording I'm pretty sure this isn't it.

That would be a new meaning for the word "all". Of course, some people aren't averse to redefining words that way.

 

[about_average]

Or it could be how they define "convention floor".
If CCW are allowed and it applies to them, the logistics of enforcing that rule would not feasible for a gathering of 70,000 people.

Yeah, I was right, it applies to guns on display and/or for sale.
From the NRA Facebook account

During the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted in the Music City Center with the proper license in accordance with Tennessee law. Bridgestone Arena prohibits the possession of firearms. When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws

Bridgestone Arena is where the speakers will be, Music City Center is where the displays will be.

 

[patient1]

Or it could be how they define "convention floor".
If CCW are allowed and it applies to them, the logistics of enforcing that rule would not feasible for a gathering of 70,000 people.

Yeah, I was right, it applies to guns on display and/or for sale.
From the NRA Facebook accountBridgestone Arena is where the speakers will be, Music City Center is where the displays will be.

So let me get this straight....

The attendees ( if they are legally qualified) at this NRA convention are allowed to carry their side arms in Music City Center, what I would call the exhibitors hall. The exhibitors there may only display nonoperational firearms.

Nobody ( except presumably security, on duty law enforcement and Secret Service ) is allowed to carry in Bridgestone Arena, where the speakers will be, what I would call the convention floor, because it's illegal there.

Therefore , the NRA, staunch bastion of the 2nd amendment, booked a convention in a place where the membership in attendance shall not legally be allowed to keep and bear arms.

If this isn't a carefully orchestrated act of mass civil disobedience aimed at taking a 2nd amendment case to the Supreme Court, it's a hypocritical sell-out of the membership.

 

[joelafayette]

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[BoyNextDoor]

Actually a private organization in which members can choose whether or not to attend the functions deciding its own gun policy is pretty pro-second amendment.

On this particular case, it's similar to a lot of guns shows in which there are lots of guns there and people are looking and handling new guns. These specific rules are an important safety measure. Blasting this on the internet and calling out the NRA for hypocrisy is a red herring.

But we should arm teachers and let the mentally ill buy guns?

 

[Busybody]

Working guns prohibited at NRA convention

he National Rifle Association’s annual convention kicks off in Nashville this week, with 70,000 people expected to participate in the three-day gathering.

Attendees can expect to find the usual NRA fare and exhibitors at the 350,000-square-foot Music City Center, but they shouldn’t expect to find functioning weapons. The Tennessean reports this week on the “multilevel security plan,” which includes an important safety measure: “All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, and any guns purchased during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification.”

This is presumably because several Republican politicians will be there. So guns around children at school are OK, but not around politicians at a gun convention.
Irony, it's what's for breakfast..

this is sorta like VOTER ID is racist

yet you needed an ID to buy Mike Obama's book

 

[Busybody]

But we should arm teachers and let the mentally ill buy guns?

who said that?

 

[Busybody]

hippo creepsy?

THIS is HIPPO CREEPSY

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=66724811#post66724811

 

[BoyNextDoor]

who said that?

The NRA

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Well this explains why they do not want working guns at the gun rally:

As the local report noted, at least eight likely Republican presidential candidates are scheduled to speak at the NRA-ILA Leadership Forum: Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, Mike Pence, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Scott Walker.

 

[Busybody]

The NRA

they said

the mentally ill can be allowed buy guns?

 

[Busybody]

they said

the mentally ill can be allowed buy guns?

 

[patient1]

Actually a private organization in which members can choose whether or not to attend the functions deciding its own gun policy is pretty pro-second amendment.

Did the membership elect to rent a convention center that does not respect their second amendment rights, rather than a city/facility which does? I had no idea. If so I'll be glad to apologize.

On this particular case, it's similar to a lot of guns shows in which there are lots of guns there and people are looking and handling new guns. These specific rules are an important safety measure.

Agreed with regard to the exhibitor's hall.

Blasting this on the internet and calling out the NRA for hypocrisy is a red herring.

Probably true that it's a red herring if it originated in the opposition, rather than the membership.

It's also probably true that Wayne La Pierre is a hypocrite. Then again, if the membership willing made an informed choice on the convention setting, instead of being dictated to by the hierarchy of the organization, it's a new era in the NRA, and my opinions are outdated.

 

[patient1]

The NRA

Finally!

I wrote to Wayne asking him about the NRA's position on what Ross Perot said on CNN when he was first running for president, and they were throwing as many tough questions at Perot as they could find- "Crazy people shouldn't have guns, and people who use guns to threaten others shouldn't be allowed to keep them."

I never could get an answer out of him.
Apparently he does not have the sense that God gave Perot.

As for the politicians attending the convention-
These presidential hopefuls seek the NRA's approval- not the other way around.

What better way for a candidate to prove that he respects the Constitution and the citizen's rights to keep and bear arms than to attend a convention with a concentration of concealed carriers. If he believes that guns in the hands of citizens deter crime, what safer place could he find? Forego Secret Service protection, stick your neck out and mingle among the members. That might separate the believers from the me-toos.

 

[Busybody]

they said

the mentally ill can be allowed buy guns?

BND...can't answer

 

[Busybody]

BND...can't answer

Its nice n cute to shit on some. ...and the beautiful people here love it

But you shame yourself

 

[KingOrfeo]

It was late last year when reliable ammo for plastic guns hit the market. Loaded firearms are now undetectable . . .

Of course they are if they're loaded; the ammo is still metallic, isn't it?

 

[about_average]

So let me get this straight....

The attendees ( if they are legally qualified) at this NRA convention are allowed to carry their side arms in Music City Center, what I would call the exhibitors hall. The exhibitors there may only display nonoperational firearms.

Nobody ( except presumably security, on duty law enforcement and Secret Service ) is allowed to carry in Bridgestone Arena, where the speakers will be, what I would call the convention floor, because it's illegal there.

Therefore , the NRA, staunch bastion of the 2nd amendment, booked a convention in a place where the membership in attendance shall not legally be allowed to keep and bear arms.

If this isn't a carefully orchestrated act of mass civil disobedience aimed at taking a 2nd amendment case to the Supreme Court, it's a hypocritical sell-out of the membership.

It's not at all uncommon for large private venues to have rules against bringing weapons in to the building.
I have no idea how or why this site was chosen, but there probably are not that many indoor places for public speaking that can handle the number of people expected to attend and also reasonably close to an exhibit hall. And I bet nearly everyone of them, if not 100% of them, have weapons bans.

But the point is, the requirement that guns on the showroom floor have the firing pins removed is no way the hypocrisy portrayed by some web sites. The NRA doesn't recommend guns be left lying around in schools where anyone can walk up and pick them up, which is the case at the convention. Nor do they recommend teachers carry firearms in schools in violation of any laws.

 

[about_average]

Of course they are if they're loaded; the ammo is still metallic, isn't it?

http://www.pcpammo.com/
If they haven't already, it's not a great leap to make bullets from a hard enough non-metallic material to cause serious injury, or even fatality.

 

[Liar]

Or it could be how they define "convention floor".

Or the definition of "on". Guns are usually carried about three feet above the floor.

 

[patient1]

http://www.pcpammo.com/
If they haven't already, it's not a great leap to make bullets from a hard enough non-metallic material to cause serious injury, or even fatality.

Glass and ceramics come to mind.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Of course they are if they're loaded; the ammo is still metallic, isn't it?

LMAO....

The NRA doesn't recommend guns be left lying around in schools where anyone can walk up and pick them up, which is the case at the convention. Nor do they recommend teachers carry firearms in schools in violation of any laws.

Yew hush....that doesn't fit the KO approved FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR narrative.