I got called sexist.

[may_I_please]

Biologists acknowledge hardwiring on every single creature on earth. Humans want to believe that even though we are biological organisms that there is no hard wiring. That is bullshit don't let anyone tell you that.

It isn't just that you as a man are going to be happier in a relationship with traditional roles. She will too.

It is not a question of what is fair or not fair. No it is not fair that women are hardwired for nesting. It is also not fair that if men engage in those activities women lose respect for the man and find him less attractive.

Go over to the how to section every time some guy is complaining that he can't get laid with his wife the women all tell him that he needs to take the burden off of the wife and start helping her around the house so that she's not so tired as time to feel sexy. 9 times out of 10 l the long-suffering husband will report oh I am already doing that should I do more?

Instead what he needs to do is crawl around under the car change some oil, do some manly stuff and come in dirty. The latest study that proved this was supposed to prove the opposite. It had 10,000 respondents you can call a presidential race with a much smaller sample size.

I respect the fuck out of my man ..he is as capable of cooking and cleaning as I am

 

[MaryanneB]

Why not pick up your own shit and cook when you're hungry? My husband and I had an understanding and it worked.

 

[Que]

If you can cook and clean as a fully functioning adult I'm sure you'll be able to attract an equally fully functioning adult

You would hope I think we as a society are starting to turn the corner on this. I find younger women tend to be better at this stuff. Might be my target market though. At my age what I tend to attract are single mothers with daddy issues.

When I was in my twenties I hardly knew any girls that could cook at all. The refrigerator never had more than Kraft singles a soggy tomato and some wilted lettuce. My generation they were working really hard to turn all the women into doctors lawyers and scientists. They did succeed and kicking males out of college to make more room and what they ended up is with more women my age that all have in Liberal Arts degrees. We now import are doctors and scientists. Plenty of women lawyers though.

 

[Lancecastor]

I respect the fuck out of my man ..he is as capable of cooking and cleaning as I am

Yes, you're respecting him with cybersex on the Playground .

 

[Que]

I respect the fuck out of my man ..he is as capable of cooking and cleaning as I am

It isn't a question of who is capable there is nothing that a woman can do around the house that a man could not do just as well. The question is who spends more time doing the housework. You? Or him?

 

[may_I_please]

It isn't a question of who is capable there is nothing that a woman can do around the house that a man could not do just as well. The question is who spends more time doing the housework. You? Or him?

The cleaner

 

[DesEsseintes]

It isn't a question of who is capable there is nothing that a woman can do around the house that a man could not do just as well. The question is who spends more time doing the housework. You? Or him?

Surely that is why you have children?

 

[GiggLeGasm]

Is it a matter of being capable or a matter of preferring more traditional gender roles? I am very capable of using the tractor to mow the lawn.. but I would rather cook and clean.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

You would hope I think we as a society are starting to turn the corner on this. I find younger women tend to be better at this stuff. Might be my target market though. At my age what I tend to attract are single mothers with daddy issues.

When I was in my twenties I hardly knew any girls that could cook at all. The refrigerator never had more than Kraft singles a soggy tomato and some wilted lettuce. My generation they were working really hard to turn all the women into doctors lawyers and scientists. They did succeed and kicking males out of college to make more room and what they ended up is with more women my age that all have in Liberal Arts degrees. We now import are doctors and scientists. Plenty of women lawyers though.

This is true in my age group. I will say though that the proud proclamation "I don't cook" thing seems to be more prevalent among white women. If there is a potluck gathering most women of color will cook their hearts out in pursuit of the win. White women just go pick up something at the market. I know a lot of successful white women in NYC and none of them could go into a well stocked kitchen cold and come out with a meal. Latians, Asians, AfAmericans, NDNs, all can put something together.

 

[may_I_please]

We both love cooking, I have a lower tolerance for mess so possibly clean more. We both do laundry and share childcare. I manage the finances and car and building works. Stuff that needs to be done is gender neutral.

 

[Brollyanna]

This is really funny, because this thread actually makes me wonder what the fuck I'm doing here.

Fuck you, all reactionary, sexist asshats!!!!


*off to hate-clean the oven*

 

[lizsea]

If that's what you want. I would never pick up after a man constantly. We are adults, clean up your own mess and cook just as much as I do.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Is it a matter of being capable or a matter of preferring more traditional gender roles? I am very capable of using the tractor to mow the lawn.. but I would rather cook and clean.

We both love cooking, I have a lower tolerance for mess so possibly clean more. We both do laundry and share childcare. I manage the finances and car and building works. Stuff that needs to be done is gender neutral.

It's ok to enjoy cooking and to be the primary meal preparer in your household. It seems like you are both making excuses for that. If you enjoy doing it, you enjoy doing it. I enjoy cooking too, it is a good thing. That has nothing to do with your husband, why bring him into the discussion>

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

If that's what you want. I would never pick up after a man constantly. We are adults, clean up your own mess and cook just as much as I do.

Some women actually enjoy building a home and tending to it. Cleaning and cooking is a part of that. Those women do it whether they have a husband or not (and that includes me). Tending to a home is not a weakness.

Do you demand everything be 50/50 in your relationships, or just cooking & cleaning? Do you initiate sex 50/50, do you pay 50/50 on all dates, do you spend 50% of your couple time catering to male interests... sitting there bored out of your mind watching him bowl or shoot pool?

 

[GiggLeGasm]

It's ok to enjoy cooking and to be the primary meal preparer in your household. It seems like you are both making excuses for that. If you enjoy doing it, you enjoy doing it. I enjoy cooking too, it is a good thing. That has nothing to do with your husband, why bring him into the discussion>

I don't have a husband.. and I'm not sure how it appeared that I brought "him" into the discussion. I'm also not making excuses, but rather, responding to the original thread question and posts that followed. Did you read the thread?

 

[lovecraft68]

Plenty of women are incapable of doing it. And they get you go girl girl power kudos for being incompetent.

If she has a career of her own then I can study splitting tasks if she stays home she better keep house. Studies show that men that help out around the house don't get laid so why should we do any? I was raised that there is no such thing as women's work it didn't do me any good I assure you. The basics task that must be done in the home unless you have domestic help someone has to do it why is it that the man should do it? A woman who is not willing to keep house is saying essentially that she is willing to live in squalor or sit idly by while the man does it.

Now this...is sexist bullshit.

A woman who won't cook and clean all the time wants to live in squalor? A woman who doesn't cook will end up obese and with health issues?

Is there blood on your keyboard from you knuckles bleeding from all that dragging?

MY wife and I split all things domestic. I do more of the cleaning, she does most of the cooking and shopping, we both work full time and I think it would be wrong for it to fall to either of us to be the domestic goddess so to speak.

As for your crack that guys who do housework get laid less? Please, most women I know are more than willing to show some bedroom appreciation to their man when he does some cooking or otherwise pitches in to do what idiots like...well like you it seems-consider woman's work.

That's great you are proficient in taking care of yourself, all adults should be able to and my old man made sure I could cook, clean and iron because I may have to take care of myself and not look for someone else to do it.

I do most of the housework and some cooking because my wife works longer hours than me and makes more money in her career

But I guess she should work 50+ hours, cook clean and worship my lazy ass in the bedroom or she is a filthy fat pig

according to you.

No wonder you need to do it all yourself.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Posting a fake address made you the man you are today, smoooot.

If you really was about that "action" then my terms would've been agreeable. I never asked you to come out here, you told me you were. What do personal information have to do with you coming here so I can beat the shit out of you? You want my name and address so you can tell it to the cops? Huh, pussy? I told you I'll meet you anywhere in Newark, fuck it, I'll meet you anywhere in North Jersey. I'll even meet up in Times Square, in front of the red steps if you want me to. The difference between me and you is you are a bitch, and I'm not. You can't bluff me Lance, cause I'm going to call it. Once you accept that, then we can move past this.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I don't have a husband.. and I'm not sure how it appeared that I brought "him" into the discussion. I'm also not making excuses, but rather, responding to the original thread question and posts that followed. Did you read the thread?

You are being very self-centric in that you think my every word relates to you specifically. They don't.

Speaking to you specifically now, I believe you bring up driving a tractor when talking about cooking and cleaning because you are ashamed that you like to cook. Cooking and cleaning are feminine things to do and being feminine embarrasses you, because you were taught that femininity is embarrassing. So you bring up a masculine endeavor, driving a tractor, to offset your shame. I think that is strange and frankly a bit sad.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Now this...is sexist bullshit.

A woman who won't cook and clean all the time wants to live in squalor? A woman who doesn't cook will end up obese and with health issues?

I missed where he said that? Can you quote?

 

[GiggLeGasm]

hahaha.. I presumed that you were talking to me.. because you quoted me. forgive me for being so misled. I am in no way shamed by being a woman. I wear the title proudly and you have no reason to be saddened by my impressions of myself.

 

[lizsea]

Some women actually enjoy building a home and tending to it. Cleaning and cooking is a part of that. Those women do it whether they have a husband or not (and that includes me). Tending to a home is not a weakness.

Do you demand everything be 50/50 in your relationships, or just cooking & cleaning? Do you initiate sex 50/50, do you pay 50/50 on all dates, do you spend 50% of your couple time catering to male interests... sitting there bored out of your mind watching him bowl or shoot pool?

Everything is pretty much 50/50. I like cleaning and I like tending to my house but I like having someone who wants to be my partner in doing so. It's OUR house. Luckily we have the same interests and he doesn't like sports so..

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

hahaha.. I presumed that you were talking to me.. because you quoted me. forgive me for being so misled. I am in no way shamed by being a woman. I wear the title proudly and you have no reason to be saddened by my impressions of myself.

I didn't say ashamed of being a woman, I said ashamed at being feminine. That is why you brought a tractor into a discussion about cooking. That is a bizarre non-sequitur to the question "can you cook" or any other question that doesn't relate to farming:

Q: "Can you do crossword puzzles?"
"I am capable of driving a tractor, but yes I am good at crossword puzzles."


Q: Can you play chess
"I am capable of driving a tractor, but I yes I can play chess."

You brought up the tractor out of shame.

 

[Lancecastor]

If you really was about that "action" then my terms would've been agreeable. I never asked you to come out here, you told me you were. What do personal information have to do with you coming here so I can beat the shit out of you? You want my name and address so you can tell it to the cops? Huh, pussy? I told you I'll meet you anywhere in Newark, fuck it, I'll meet you anywhere in North Jersey. I'll even meet up in Times Square, in front of the red steps if you want me to. The difference between me and you is you are a bitch, and I'm not. You can't bluff me Lance, cause I'm going to call it. Once you accept that, then we can move past this.

You have proved you are a pussy.

I will be reminding the GB every day, coward.

 

[GiggLeGasm]

you really have no idea why I brought up a traditionally masculine task in a comparison with a traditionally feminine one. For you to presume you know me at all is ridiculous.
My original intention was to carry on the discussion posed by this thread about traditional gender roles and whether or not believing in them is enough to call a person sexist. It does not appear that you or I really disagree on the topic which is why I do not understand your decision to speak for me.

 

[Brollyanna]

I pay myself each time I masturbate, just to amplify MY shame.