What Is Putin's Grand Design, Assuming He's Still With Us

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

What? No comment from the left?

Why is the "right" so obsessed with Putin? He shares many of their core beliefs. Birds of a feather?

Putin cares about Putin and little else. Another thing he has in common with the "right".

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

He's a hard core KGB commie in stealth mode, he doesn't embrace any of my core beliefs, your lie notwithstanding.

He shares many of the same ideals as US "conservatives".

He doesn't like homosexuals.
Same sex marriage is a big "no no".
He doesn't like Muslims.
He's not overly fond of immigrants.
He calls himself a "Christian defender of traditional values".

I can post quotes from Putin and various Tea-Party Republicans and you couldn't tell me without looking them up who said what.

Hell, Pat Buchanan penned an article in TownHall asking "Is Putin one of us?"

 

[Wrong Element]

Ukraine isn't in NATO. The Baltics are. That's a rather significant fact.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Which is why the right has very little problem openly praising Putin.

"They see Putin and imagine a man wrestling bears, they see Obama and think mom jeans."

Putin isn't insane he's not about to start a large scale war and neither should we. We on the other hand are a bit crazy.

 

[oggbashan]

Putin is following Machiavelli's advice:

When the state has overwhelming internal troubles, manufacture an external threat.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

He's a hard core KGB commie in stealth mode, he doesn't embrace any of my core beliefs, your lie notwithstanding.

You and your glee party buddies wasted no time in sucking up to him as your latest pud-pulling poster boy crush for government machismo when you figured it could besmirch Obama, though. And when the moment was over and your nuts were drained from prematurely busting, you dropped him like hot lead.

Didn't work out in the end, but you tried.

 

[KingOrfeo]

He's a hard core KGB commie in stealth mode, he doesn't embrace any of my core beliefs, your lie notwithstanding.

A lot more KGB than Commie, I'd say.

 

[miles]

I don't believe that he believes that NATO will come to the defense of those states against a robust Russian incursion to protect "rights of Russian speaking minorities" in those states. I think he senses the timidity of NATO and the Obama administration in its reluctance in coming up with any lethal military support against his incursions in Ukraine.

He's right...NATO wouldn't come to their defense. Since The Fraud has been in office there is no leadership in the free world.

He farts in our general direction.

 

[Adre]

He farts in my general direction.

Doesn't everyone?

 

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[Busybody]

Its Obama

in WHITE PAINT

 

[KingOrfeo]

Well, I might agree but the KGB iseft was a product of Communism.

And of pre-Communist Russian tradition, going back to Ivan the Terrible's Oprichnina. Point is, there is considerable essential difference between Nazism and Communism, but there is no essential difference between the KGB and the Gestapo and Franco's Guardia Civil, secret police are secret police.

 

[Sean Renaud]

None of which makes him synonymous with American conservatives. Does he want less government or more government? Does he believe in the Constitution or the other founding documents of our country? American conservatives fought Communism, he supported it, promoted it and oppressed Russians under it; all the while undermining American interest worldwide. He has more in common with Democrats than conservatives.

Did you notice whether he likes chocolate chip cookies, steps on cockroaches, or other meaningless details?

So if it's not a 100% perfect match no comparisons can be made? Socially his policies much closer mirror yours than mine. Those social issues are huge if Republicans dropped them they'd win every goddamn election across the nation but they won't becaue it's a vital part of who they are, not some minor detail like do you like cookies.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

None of which makes him synonymous with American conservatives. Does he want less government or more government? Does he believe in the Constitution or the other founding documents of our country? American conservatives fought Communism, he supported it, promoted it and oppressed Russians under it; all the while undermining American interest worldwide. He has more in common with Democrats than conservatives.

Did you notice whether he likes chocolate chip cookies, steps on cockroaches, or other meaningless details?

You keep telling yourself that conservatives don't share more in common with Putin than they would ever likely admit. But it's obvious to anyone without the blinders you're saddled with.

Side note: It was one of your own that pointed out the similarities in ideology. Didn't read Buchanan's article did you?

 

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[Sean Renaud]

The difference between Hitler and Stalin was that Stalin murdered on a much grander scale.

Mostly due to access to more people. . .and issues debatably beyond his control.

Putin like to hunt big game, ride horses, the great outdoors and outdoor sports, so do a lot of Americans, so in your mind they are just like him, right? A perfect match right?

No. You're being intentionally obtuse, liking to hunt big game is different from oppresssing people for their sexual preferences. And not a perfect match but more similar (on that subject) than someone who supports gay marriage. We could go up and down his list and see where the check marks end up.

 

[KingOrfeo]

None of which makes him synonymous with American conservatives. . . . Does he believe in the Constitution or the other founding documents of our country?

By that standard, no foreigner could be equivalent to American conservatives. You don't really believe that, do you?