The Value of a Content Life

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Something that made me think in Des's thread about touch: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1157803

While everyone was going on about how important touch is and ready to assert that they themselves have not lost touch with the experience, Lorilei said this:


She might have been teasing but even if she wasn't it made me think about the difference in experience. Particularly since I identify as asexual and do not pursue relationships with the intent or even desire for physical intimacy with others(it comes and goes for the right people and I do feel sexual desire, which is where the pan comes in as far as my attraction and arousal meter goes, just not the desire to be sexually stimulated by another), I feel sensitive to this viewpoint. I've been told everything from sex being integral to healthy relationships or that I must have been "abused" or assaulted at some point in my life to explain the way I feel. Not particular relationships or individual personality pictures of mental health but very broadly, yes, it is a requirement to have sex with your partner otherwise it is not considered a valid form of relating; you're just "roommates" or "friends" not romantic or held to the same standard or ideal as a married couple who does engage in sex or even just a dating regular person who pursues relationships just for the sex only. And that's not right.


How is my standard of living, what makes me content and happy, viewed as less? Like the reason I no longer go to family functions because I'm not considered a whole person or even a happy one if I am not constantly seeking to move upward, moving on to better things, if I'm not attached at the hip with someone who likes to pleasure me sexually. I'm 28 and I should still be looking for fulfillment constantly, looking for improvement, I should never feel satisfied. Not in my "dead end job" as a cashier, even though I love it, love people, love pushing buttons all day, love the flexibility of the hours, love to talk about food, love being surrounded by food but not being forced to prepare it. Not as a talented artist who refuses to go to school, even though I love my art and it is a part of who I am but it's not my ideal to make it about other people, it's mine for me and I like it that way. Not as an almost 30, divorced woman who dresses and acts like a man because obviously I MUST be dissatisfied, even though expressing my duality and having the freedom to be whomever I want to be today, whatever aspect of me I wish to let out today is exactly what I love and enjoy about myself, accepting all parts of me as equally valid and true parts of who I am. Not alone, even though I have many friend gardens at different tiers of growth that all enrich my life in so many ways without making me feel overwhelmed or exhausted or caged by expectation or need, allowing me enough time and freedom for me, by myself.

I had an experience recently, watching Fish Tank starring Michael Fassbender. I was fascinated by the unhinged and seemingly floating existence of this young woman in the film, living in what I consider poor circumstance. Half the time, her apartment door was open, either left that way as she left or already open when she came home and a nameless dog in the cluttered front hall(I don't know, was it theirs? I think so, maybe). Granted, it wasn't suppose to paint a pretty picture of their life, her mother uncaring and practically a teenager herself in party girl, trashy attitude and the way that they related to each other was so alien and immature, so raw, petty and constantly fighting and degrading. Different from my experiences but not necessarily bad. It's still a home, a roof, she still had clothes and makeup and a bed. She still had a family, albeit not what we picture as the standard but that is gradually changing as more and more same-sex couples start adopting or having children.


Do you force your viewpoint that someone should constantly strive for more in their situations and experiences?

Do you look at the lives of others and measure it by what your goals and life aspirations are without considering what they might hold up as contentment and ultimate satisfaction?

Is there a standard or ideal that fits for everyone?

I spent over half of my life being unhappy because someone told me to be, someone told me I should want something more or different, to the point where I didn't even listen to myself and my own needs. Just playing the part of happy unsuccessfully.
 
Seems to me you have your Shit together...it is so much the things you do that matter...it is the reasons why you do them and if you have truly and deeply considered them and they make you feel content...you are miles ahead of most thirty year olds who cannot even see they are pretending their lives based on others expectations and cultural norms.
 
I identify, in a way.
My kids are always telling me I should get out more, make some new friends, do stuff.
Why?
I am perfectly happy with my own company. I feel like I go out plenty. I have enough friends.
It almost seems like they are the ones not content with my life!

Right now, I need my 'me' time. There's enough going on medically etc that I just want to be left alone to deal and overcome.
I don't want the complications that come with eveyone elses expectations.
 
If you are content and happy, you are light years ahead of the people who are telling you that you aren't.
 
My ambition knows no bounds...

Speaking of starry skies above, check out the Kansas State Motto: Ad astra per aspera
 
My ambition knows no bounds...

Speaking of starry skies above, check out the Kansas State Motto: Ad astra per aspera

Or the typically more downbeat RAF motto: Per Ardua ad Astra. Very appropriate for the Battle of Britain.

Anyway - I'll stop hijacking!
 
There are various maxims about the pursuit of happiness. When it comes to money such advice as living withing one's means and enjoying the things you have are always good advice. The same advice is true about ever aspect of one's resources whether that be time and how you use it, and one's capacity to cherish and nurture friendships.

I had a year where I had something to prove to myself and was avidly pursuing opportunities for physical gratification. Both quantity and, as I perceived it, the quality of the experience anticipated. As I became less concerned about that I have found that the whole flirt and seduction phase is something to be treasured languidly, and sometimes the experience is quite enough to leave as a what if.
 
Do you force your viewpoint that someone should constantly strive for more in their situations and experiences?

Do you look at the lives of others and measure it by what your goals and life aspirations are without considering what they might hold up as contentment and ultimate satisfaction?

Is there a standard or ideal that fits for everyone?

I spent over half of my life being unhappy because someone told me to be, someone told me I should want something more or different, to the point where I didn't even listen to myself and my own needs. Just playing the part of happy unsuccessfully.

As a parent raising young adults, these are questions I have recently needed to address. I've considered myself to be fairly open minded and accepting but, when placed in a situation where my own child was making choices that I questioned, I felt myself trying to pull him toward my plan. It took me a year to reconcile that his ability to be different is actually a strength that will guide him.
I hope that he is someday able to express the delight in his freedom that you have shared here.. whether it be through text.. or on paper.. or by whispering it to the wind in a moment of solitude. :rose:
 
I've been working since I was a young teen, first in pursuit of my education, I was smarter than most of the other students and the teachers didn't know how to teach me anymore so they sent me to university. I was barely even a teenager at the time. University! I caught the bus every day and earned several degrees before I graduated high school. I was their cash cow because I was still a public school student but I was also a college student. I worked so hard, pushing myself so hard, straining to earn the next thing, one degree after another, finally a graduate degree because I went through everything I was interested in. I was 19 when I finally realized what I had done to myself.

I got sick, so incredibly sick that I thought the end was near. When I recovered I married my boyfriend so I could try to have kids and by 21 I succeeded. Two kids by 23, a marriage on the rocks because I didn't love him like I should have. He annoyed me, I kept maturing and he stopped at 20. I focused on my kids and my career and pretended life was fine.

Fast forward to me being a divorced mom of 2 amazingly wonderful kids. I was satisfied with my life finally, I slept with whomever appealed to me, I went to parties and work functions alone and had a blast, a sports star used to appear at my house at 1am, I was living my life for me finally and then I met a certain red headed guy and I fell.

He can't work a stable job due to his chronic illness, he makes a decent living woodworking but he will never be rich. My friends were so confused, my work mates were just dumbfounded by me falling so hard. But the thing is, when I finally was living my life for me I found my match. I found the love I've never had. I wasn't pushing anything. I felt no need to get married, I can't have anymore kids. I didn't need another salary to pay my bills. He gives me unconditional love, support, laughter and an amazing sex life.

Sometimes our decisions make no sense to those around us but simply, they don't live our lives. As long as you're sleeping well at night then you're good.
 
I've been working since I was a young teen, first in pursuit of my education, I was smarter than most of the other students and the teachers didn't know how to teach me anymore so they sent me to university. I was barely even a teenager at the time. University! I caught the bus every day and earned several degrees before I graduated high school. I was their cash cow because I was still a public school student but I was also a college student. I worked so hard, pushing myself so hard, straining to earn the next thing, one degree after another, finally a graduate degree because I went through everything I was interested in. I was 19 when I finally realized what I had done to myself.

I got sick, so incredibly sick that I thought the end was near. When I recovered I married my boyfriend so I could try to have kids and by 21 I succeeded. Two kids by 23, a marriage on the rocks because I didn't love him like I should have. He annoyed me, I kept maturing and he stopped at 20. I focused on my kids and my career and pretended life was fine.

Fast forward to me being a divorced mom of 2 amazingly wonderful kids. I was satisfied with my life finally, I slept with whomever appealed to me, I went to parties and work functions alone and had a blast, a sports star used to appear at my house at 1am, I was living my life for me finally and then I met a certain red headed guy and I fell.

He can't work a stable job due to his chronic illness, he makes a decent living woodworking but he will never be rich. My friends were so confused, my work mates were just dumbfounded by me falling so hard. But the thing is, when I finally was living my life for me I found my match. I found the love I've never had. I wasn't pushing anything. I felt no need to get married, I can't have anymore kids. I didn't need another salary to pay my bills. He gives me unconditional love, support, laughter and an amazing sex life.

Sometimes our decisions make no sense to those around us but simply, they don't live our lives. As long as you're sleeping well at night then you're good.

BULL SHIT ALERT.

Gimme a fucking break. Youre average and barely coherent.
 
I long ago learned the value of being content with what you have. The problem lies in doing it.
 
I've been told everything from sex being integral to healthy relationships or that I must have been "abused" or assaulted at some point in my life to explain the way I feel. Not particular relationships or individual personality pictures of mental health but very broadly, yes, it is a requirement to have sex with your partner otherwise it is not considered a valid form of relating; you're just "roommates" or "friends" not romantic or held to the same standard or ideal as a married couple who does engage in sex or even just a dating regular person who pursues relationships just for the sex only. And that's not right.


How is my standard of living, what makes me content and happy, viewed as less?
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Is there a standard or ideal that fits for everyone?

No, there isn't. And not just on this issue. The only mandatory thing in life IMO (and this isn't even mandatory for some) is that you're self-supporting and not a drain on others in the financial sense and otherwise. Other than that, there are no rules - no matter what other people try to impose on you.

But I think everyone has a belief that there's a "right" or "proper" way to live. A small example: when I was in college, I would stay up till 3am studying and talking on the phone with friends - which drove my visiting grandfather crazy. It infuriated him because in his world people went to bed when the sun went down. Anything else was lunacy. And no amount of explanation would ever satisfy him. To grandpa, I was living life the wrong way.

A bigger example: Manu and I are best friends, have been since high school. Our relationship has often been a sticky thing with my other friends. He and I live together, work together, and are pretty much together 24/7. This is completely fine and comfortable for both of us. I've never felt the need to "get away" from him because being with him is not a stressful thing. We can go hours without talking while we do our own things, then have a long conversation or a cuddle or whatever.

Despite our mutual satisfaction with this arrangement, I've been told over and over again by "friends" that he and I are unhealthy, codependent, dysfunctional, smothering each other, that I needed "my own space" and he needed his. And in the early years of our relationship, their criticisms really bothered me - so much so that I attempted at various times to do things separate from him. But my heart was never in it because it just isn't something I need to do. We enjoy things much more when we're together.

At a certain point, I realized that I'm happy with who I am and how I'm living my life, and I was sick of bending over backwards to try to prove to people that I'm independent and strong by their definitions. Because despite our closeness, Manu and I are two separate and fully-functional people. We are not dependent on each other. We enjoy each other's company. This is not a weakness, and anyone who sees it as one simply because it doesn't fit their definition of a "proper" relationship can GFY.

I have a friend who ended up a park ranger. He's happily single, spends months at a time all alone out in the middle of the forest, and he's totally happy.

I have another friend who has been in a polyamorous relationship with a man and another woman for over 10 years. They're best friends, they're roommates, they're lovers, they're content and happy.

You can't worry about what other people think. So long as you're content and happy with your choices and you're not keeping other people from being happy, then ignore the busybodies. It's your life. :rose:
 
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No, there isn't. And not just on this issue. The only mandatory thing in life IMO (and this isn't even mandatory for some) is that you're self-supporting and not a drain on others in the financial sense and otherwise. Other than that, there are no rules - no matter what other people try to impose on you.

But I think everyone has a belief that there's a "right" or "proper" way to live. A small example: when I was in college, I would stay up till 3am studying and talking on the phone with friends - which drove my visiting grandfather crazy. It infuriated him because in his world people went to bed when the sun went down. Anything else was lunacy. And no amount of explanation would ever satisfy him. To grandpa, I was living life the wrong way.

A bigger example: Manu and I are best friends, have been since high school. Our relationship has often been a sticky thing with my other friends. He and I live together, work together, and are pretty much together 24/7. This is completely fine and comfortable for both of us. I've never felt the need to "get away" from him because being with him is not a stressful thing. We can go hours without talking while we do our own things, then have a long conversation or a cuddle or whatever.

Despite our mutual satisfaction with this arrangement, I've been told over and over again by "friends" that he and I are unhealthy, codependent, dysfunctional, smothering each other, that I needed "my own space" and he needed his. And in the early years of our relationship, their criticisms really bothered me - so much so that I attempted at various times to do things separate from him. But my heart was never in it because it just isn't something I need to do. We enjoy things much more when we're together.

At a certain point, I realized that I'm happy with who I am and how I'm living my life, and I was sick of bending over backwards to try to prove to people that I'm independent and strong by their definitions. Because despite our closeness, Manu and I are two separate and fully-functional people. We are not dependent on each other. We enjoy each other's company. This is not a weakness, and anyone who sees it as one simply because it doesn't fit their definition of a "proper" relationship can GFY.

I have a friend who ended up a park ranger. He's happily single, spends months at a time all alone out in the middle of the forest, and he's totally happy.

I have another friend who has been in a polyamorous relationship with a man and another woman for over 10 years. They're best friends, they're roommates, they're lovers, they're content and happy.

You can't worry about what other people think. So long as you're content and happy with your choices and you're not keeping other people from being happy, then ignore the busybodies. It's your life. :rose:

I'd say you are a lucky woman, Laurel. Very lucky. And it would seem your partner is also very lucky. :)
 
Well, he's lost control of almost everything at this point, his saliva glands have to be on that list.

The weird thing is, dry mouth is a side effect of every medicine he takes.
 
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