How many of you will do this to a misbehaving child?

[smoothg103rd]

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/barber-publicly-shames-misbehaving-kid-with-110083125987.html

I'm all for punishment. But I'm old fashioned, I believe in beatings. But as a child I will rather get ten beatings than to walk around looking like this. What's your thoughts?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Not me. My dad used to pull shit like that.

The Queen was all for it and I said, well, then the next time Princess lets her grades go down, shave her head.

She said okay (I think just to 'win' the discussion).

I had some harsh words for her.

After some time, she said, you know, I think you're right. Public humiliation might not be the best thing to do to a child.

DAMNED SKIPPY!

 

[smoothg103rd]

He look funny, and I will honestly laugh at him if I seen that child in the streets. I'm kinda with you 4est, I couldn't do this to my son. But I will laugh at other people kids.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I usually go all Monsters, Inc. on them, foaming at the mouth, snake hair, etc. After that, I just have to look at them and growl and they straighten right up.

 

[parodyluvr75]

I usually go all Monsters, Inc. on them, foaming at the mouth, snake hair, etc. After that, I just have to look at them and growl and they straighten right up.

That'd scare me.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

My 5YO had a meltdown just last week and informed me amongst other gems that I was "the worst mummy in the universe" and that it was "the worst day of her entire life" because I wouldn't let her have her iPad while she ate her dinner. I thought briefly about shaving off all her glorious curls , but then decided I'd just take the iPad for a week.

In hindsight, I probably should have gone the shaved head option.

the universe, eh? wow, that's hard to beat!

 

[Ishmael]

Hmmm, need to chew on this one a while.

On the up side the hair will grow back...........eventually................and it's a constant reminder to the child. The article mentioned that the boys grades made a remarkable recovery so it seems that it worked in that case.

As far as the humiliation aspect, there are much worse things that could be done.

Ishmael

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Don't even try to outdo me.

uhm, my son's 28 - he thinks i'm great.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

uhm, my son's 28 - he thinks i'm great.

You think he thinks you're great.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Hmmm, need to chew on this one a while.

On the up side the hair will grow back...........eventually................and it's a constant reminder to the child. The article mentioned that the boys grades made a remarkable recovery so it seems that it worked in that case.

As far as the humiliation aspect, there are much worse things that could be done.

Ishmael

I don't know Ish. If my father did that to much I would've shot him. Little black kids are cruel, I know in school they are talking about his cut everyday. And they will be talking about it for a long time. Even after it grows back.

 

[Ishmael]

I don't know Ish. If my father did that to much I would've shot him. Little black kids are cruel, I know in school they are talking about his cut everyday. And they will be talking about it for a long time. Even after it grows back.

ALL kids are cruel smooth, black don't have a monopoly on that.

Every child reacts differently to different punishments. Finding one that works takes some experimentation. Beatings are the least effective for most offenses the child can do.

The worst beating I got in my life was over hogs. I was at my uncles farm in Indiana and it was the spring. The hogs had recently farrowed and my cousins and I thought it was great fun to jump in the hog lot, pick up a piglet to get it screaming, and then run and jump back over the fence when the sows came running. What we didn't realize was that if one of those sows had caught us they would have killed us and ate us. Hence the beating.

Ishmael

 

[geronimo_appleby]

You think he thinks you're great.

no, he tells me - when i send food into the cellar where he's been tied up for the last 23 years...

 

[smoothg103rd]

ALL kids are cruel smooth, black don't have a monopoly on that.

Every child reacts differently to different punishments. Finding one that works takes some experimentation. Beatings are the least effective for most offenses the child can do.

The worst beating I got in my life was over hogs. I was at my uncles farm in Indiana and it was the spring. The hogs had recently farrowed and my cousins and I thought it was great fun to jump in the hog lot, pick up a piglet to get it screaming, and then run and jump back over the fence when the sows came running. What we didn't realize was that if one of those sows had caught us they would have killed us and ate us. Hence the beating.

Ishmael

Maybe all kids are cruel, I was just trying to paint a picture for you. They are going to slaughter him in school, the teachers will too. But I condone beatings, ass whopping work.

 

[Miles Long]

no, he tells me - when i send food into the cellar where he's been tied up for the last 23 years...

And then he rubs the lotion on his skin?

 

[neci]

i find taking away privileges such as playing outside with friends (being grounded) and removal of cartoons work just fine. early bedtimes also work well. i have no need of humiliating children or beating them.

 

[smoothg103rd]

i find taking away privileges such as playing outside with friends (being grounded) and removal of cartoons work just fine. early bedtimes also work well. i have no need of humiliating children or beating them.

But what about a beating and a punishment?

 

[neci]

But what about a beating and a punishment?

what about it? i find clear expectations and consistency work quite well. i've slapped hands before, and given a spanking or two, but it's been a long time. i don't think i'd resort to that again. i don't have that need. the kids in the neighborhood think i'm strict, because if there's a note home from school for a behavior problem, the kids don't get to go outside and play. it's pretty simple. it works well, and they want to do good. they don't behave to avoid being beaten, they behave, because when they behave they get the freedom to have fun and play. when they don't behave, there are not so fun consequences. it's quite simple, but you have to be consistent with it. kids like clear rules and clear consequences for breaking rules.

 

[QuietLibrarian]

i find taking away privileges such as playing outside with friends (being grounded) and removal of cartoons work just fine. early bedtimes also work well. i have no need of humiliating children or beating them.

My kids are pretty good, but my oldest had gotten into some kind of trouble at high school and I got a phone call home. He knew it and must have been waiting for me to lose it when he got home.

Instead of yelling or nagging, I said nothing when he came into the house, just let him go up to his room. But when he tried to turn on his computer, he found that the power cable was missing.

*Then* we had a discussion.

 

[neci]

My kids are pretty good, but my oldest had gotten into some kind of trouble at high school and I got a phone call home. He knew it and must have been waiting for me to lose it when he got home.

Instead of yelling or nagging, I said nothing when he came into the house, just let him go up to his room. But when he tried to turn on his computer, he found that the power cable was missing.

*Then* we had a discussion.

that'll do it!

 

[smoothg103rd]

what about it? i find clear expectations and consistency work quite well. i've slapped hands before, and given a spanking or two, but it's been a long time. i don't think i'd resort to that again. i don't have that need. the kids in the neighborhood think i'm strict, because if there's a note home from school for a behavior problem, the kids don't get to go outside and play. it's pretty simple. it works well, and they want to do good. they don't behave to avoid being beaten, they behave, because when they behave they get the freedom to have fun and play. when they don't behave, there are not so fun consequences. it's quite simple, but you have to be consistent with it. kids like clear rules and clear consequences for breaking rules.

I'm not saying that punishments are ineffective, because they do play there part. But now in days kids don't want to go outside anyway. What's a punishment for doing something bad on punishment? A longer punishment? Punishment is like jail, maybe you will get some time cut off for good behavior and maybe you will get more time for bad behavior. But what people fail to realized is, how can you take something away from a person who already have nothing. Meaning I'm already on punishment what more can you do to me? Let's say if I'm on punishment and I can't go outside, but I sneak outside. What's going to happen to me once I come back? Are you going to tell me that I can't go outside again? That's stupid and pointless. What is effective is a beating and a punishment. That takes away my taking away something from someone with nothing argument. I'm going to punish you and beat you, the best of both worlds.

 

[QuietLibrarian]

what about it? i find clear expectations and consistency work quite well. i've slapped hands before, and given a spanking or two, but it's been a long time. i don't think i'd resort to that again. i don't have that need. the kids in the neighborhood think i'm strict, because if there's a note home from school for a behavior problem, the kids don't get to go outside and play. it's pretty simple. it works well, and they want to do good. they don't behave to avoid being beaten, they behave, because when they behave they get the freedom to have fun and play. when they don't behave, there are not so fun consequences. it's quite simple, but you have to be consistent with it. kids like clear rules and clear consequences for breaking rules.

I agree. I think kids need boundaries in general. They need to feel safe and that their parents are in control. Letting a kid do anything s/he wants doesn't reinforce that.
And neither does inconsistency when it comes to discipline. If the consequence for action A is B the first time, but there is no consequence the second time, what is the kid supposed to think? Is it ok to do A or not?
The only people who can teach them that is their parents/caregivers. It's not innate.

 

[QuietLibrarian]

I'm not saying that punishments are ineffective, because they do play there part. But now in days kids don't want to go outside anyway. What's a punishment for doing something bad on punishment? A longer punishment? Punishment is like jail, maybe you will get some time cut off for good behavior and maybe you will get more time for bad behavior. But what people fail to realized is, how can you take something away from a person who already have nothing. Meaning I'm already on punishment what more can you do to me? Let's say if I'm on punishment and I can't go outside, but I sneak outside. What's going to happen to me once I come back? Are you going to tell me that I can't go outside again? That's stupid and pointless. What is effective is a beating and a punishment. That takes away my taking away something from someone with nothing argument. I'm going to punish you and beat you, the best of both worlds.

The punishment/discipline doesn't have to be grounding. It can simply be the taking away of a privilege. Take away a cell phone, or internet access. (I mentioned a power cable I believe?) You have to make it relevant to the person in question. It's obviously different for older kids than for young ones.

Edit:
Or if they hate going outside, MAKE them go out and clean someone's yard...

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

My kids are pretty good, but my oldest had gotten into some kind of trouble at high school and I got a phone call home. He knew it and must have been waiting for me to lose it when he got home.

Instead of yelling or nagging, I said nothing when he came into the house, just let him go up to his room. But when he tried to turn on his computer, he found that the power cable was missing.

*Then* we had a discussion.

I'd strip the wires off the end of an extension cord.

 

[smoothg103rd]

The punishment/discipline doesn't have to be grounding. It can simply be the taking away of a privilege. Take away a cell phone, or internet access. (I mentioned a power cable I believe?) You have to make it relevant to the person in question. It's obviously different for older kids than for young ones.

Edit:
Or if they hate going outside, MAKE them go out and clean someone's yard...

You tell me to go clean the yard ,I say no,then what?

 

[neci]

I'm not saying that punishments are ineffective, because they do play there part. But now in days kids don't want to go outside anyway. What's a punishment for doing something bad on punishment? A longer punishment? Punishment is like jail, maybe you will get some time cut off for good behavior and maybe you will get more time for bad behavior. But what people fail to realized is, how can you take something away from a person who already have nothing. Meaning I'm already on punishment what more can you do to me? Let's say if I'm on punishment and I can't go outside, but I sneak outside. What's going to happen to me once I come back? Are you going to tell me that I can't go outside again? That's stupid and pointless. What is effective is a beating and a punishment. That takes away my taking away something from someone with nothing argument. I'm going to punish you and beat you, the best of both worlds.

i think i'll take my version of effective, as it actually works for us.