Surprise! Wingnuts lied

[gotsnowgotslush]

NARAL’s Texas affiliate released a statement as former Gov. Rick Perry made his exit last week, outlining the damage Perry’s leadership has left in its wake – the closure of more than 80 family planning clinics due to budget cuts; the loss of 9-1 federal matching funds as a result of excluding Planned Parenthood from a Medicaid program; mandatory 24-hour sonograms before an abortion, to name a few.

Judge Catharina Haynes—who voted to uphold other portions of H.B. 2 in an earlier challenge—questioned whether the law was medically justified.

"In an unusual turn of events at the Texas trial now under appeal, the state was caught red-handed: Four of the state’s five expert witnesses were forced to change their testimony on the stand when confronted with emails showing they had lied about who had written their reports."

"...the state’s lawyers finally turned over to the clinics’ attorneys emails they had withheld, despite a court order requiring them to turn over all the witnesses’ communications with Rue."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2015-01-07/hb2-back-in-court-judges-get-critical/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...erts_lied_about_research_and_vincent_rue.html

From the outset of the hearing that lasted twice as long as the allotted time, Judge Catharina Haynes, directing her questions to State Solicitor General Jonathan Mitchell, expressed trouble discerning how the ASC physical plant requirements improve women’s safety.

"... why can’t you have a sterile operating environment in a 3,000 square foot [clinic]?” asked Haynes.

"You can kind of find an expert to say anything,” she told the state’s attorney. “Are we saying if you can find someone in the world to say we need marble floors in an abortion clinic, then that would be good enough to allow the Texas legislature to pass that?”
-Judge Catharina Haynes

 

[LadyVer]

I'm waiting for the day when mens' reproductive healthcare is up for a vote in the states, especially Texas.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm waiting for the day when mens' reproductive healthcare is up for a vote in the states, especially Texas.

What controversy is there in Men's Health? The only thing I know of would be banning access to condoms for males under 18, which might have been the law in some places at one time.

ETA: There used to be some misbegotten law (the Comstock Law) making sales of contraceptives illegal.

 

[phrodeau]

What controversy is there in Men's Health? The only thing I know of would be banning access to condoms for males under 18, which might have been the law in some places at one time.

Should Medicare pay for a vasectomy reversal?

 

[LadyVer]

What controversy is there in Men's Health? The only thing I know of would be banning access to condoms for males under 18, which might have been the law in some places at one time.

ETA: There used to be some misbegotten law (the Comstock Law) making sales of contraceptives illegal.

You are behind the times. Men's birth control is coming, and I'm not talking about condoms.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Should Medicare pay for a vasectomy reversal?

Or, should Medicaid pay for a vasectomy for men or for a procedure on women that is for the same purpose? They did when I worked there but there have been changes since the 1980's.

I doubt that many men on Medicare would even have a vasectomy reversal. There is nothing specific in my Medicare handbook, so it probably is covered.

 

[1sickbastard]

"But, but, but...
It ain't lying if yer lying for Jesus & good Christian morality.
I swearz to Gawd it ain't."


And the sad thing is, I'm not kidding about that mindset.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm waiting for the day when mens' reproductive healthcare is up for a vote in the states, especially Texas.

Why? So you can watch a bunch of men make a choice about it? LOL

You are behind the times. Men's birth control is coming, and I'm not talking about condoms.

Yea....it's been coming for like 10 years. And even if it were what laws would they put on it that you would like to see as a form of retribution?

"But, but, but...
It ain't lying if yer lying for Jesus & good Christian morality.
I swearz to Gawd it ain't."


And the sad thing is, I'm not kidding about that mindset.

He sure isn't....because Texas.

 

[phrodeau]

Or, should Medicaid pay for a vasectomy for men or for a procedure on women that is for the same purpose? They did when I worked there but there have been changes since the 1980's.

I doubt that many men on Medicare would even have a vasectomy reversal. There is nothing specific in my Medicare handbook, so it probably is covered.

Why should tax money be used to reverse your bad decision?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

awesome! how much obana juice have you drunk today?

carry on slave

NARAL’s Texas affiliate released a statement as former Gov. Rick Perry made his exit last week, outlining the damage Perry’s leadership has left in its wake – the closure of more than 80 family planning clinics due to budget cuts; the loss of 9-1 federal matching funds as a result of excluding Planned Parenthood from a Medicaid program; mandatory 24-hour sonograms before an abortion, to name a few.

Judge Catharina Haynes—who voted to uphold other portions of H.B. 2 in an earlier challenge—questioned whether the law was medically justified.

"In an unusual turn of events at the Texas trial now under appeal, the state was caught red-handed: Four of the state’s five expert witnesses were forced to change their testimony on the stand when confronted with emails showing they had lied about who had written their reports."

"...the state’s lawyers finally turned over to the clinics’ attorneys emails they had withheld, despite a court order requiring them to turn over all the witnesses’ communications with Rue."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2015-01-07/hb2-back-in-court-judges-get-critical/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...erts_lied_about_research_and_vincent_rue.html

From the outset of the hearing that lasted twice as long as the allotted time, Judge Catharina Haynes, directing her questions to State Solicitor General Jonathan Mitchell, expressed trouble discerning how the ASC physical plant requirements improve women’s safety.

"... why can’t you have a sterile operating environment in a 3,000 square foot [clinic]?” asked Haynes.

"You can kind of find an expert to say anything,” she told the state’s attorney. “Are we saying if you can find someone in the world to say we need marble floors in an abortion clinic, then that would be good enough to allow the Texas legislature to pass that?”
-Judge Catharina Haynes

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Why should tax money be used to reverse your bad decision?

why should tax money be spent to support you, slave?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I'm waiting for the day when mens' reproductive healthcare is up for a vote in the states, especially Texas.

women should pay for their own
men should pay for their own

 

[RobDownSouth]

Or, should Medicaid pay for a vasectomy for men or for a procedure on women that is for the same purpose? They did when I worked there but there have been changes since the 1980's.

I doubt that many men on Medicare would even have a vasectomy reversal. There is nothing specific in my Medicare handbook, so it probably is covered.

When I was in the Army, I was shocked at the number of vasectomy reversals performed. It seems like one day a week at the Army hospital was reserved for vasectomies in the morning, and vaso-vasotomies (reversals) in the afternoon.

 

[unregistered]

 

[CandiCame]

Or, should Medicaid pay for a vasectomy for men or for a procedure on women that is for the same purpose? They did when I worked there but there have been changes since the 1980's.

I doubt that many men on Medicare would even have a vasectomy reversal. There is nothing specific in my Medicare handbook, so it probably is covered.

It's like pulling teeth. They will but they make you go through a bunch of classes and take counseling and be either 24 or have 2 kids already and I'm sitting here like, "IT'S FUCKING REVERSIBLE! IT TAKES 15 MINUTES! Look, there's a scalpel right there on that table, just pick it up and let's do this."

But my insurance is slightly different from Medicare so they might not be such hardasses about it. But everyone I know who's had one has had to go through that stupid shit.

 

[Busybody]

NARAL’s Texas affiliate released a statement as former Gov. Rick Perry made his exit last week, outlining the damage Perry’s leadership has left in its wake – the closure of more than 80 family planning clinics due to budget cuts; the loss of 9-1 federal matching funds as a result of excluding Planned Parenthood from a Medicaid program; mandatory 24-hour sonograms before an abortion, to name a few.

Judge Catharina Haynes—who voted to uphold other portions of H.B. 2 in an earlier challenge—questioned whether the law was medically justified.

"In an unusual turn of events at the Texas trial now under appeal, the state was caught red-handed: Four of the state’s five expert witnesses were forced to change their testimony on the stand when confronted with emails showing they had lied about who had written their reports."

"...the state’s lawyers finally turned over to the clinics’ attorneys emails they had withheld, despite a court order requiring them to turn over all the witnesses’ communications with Rue."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2015-01-07/hb2-back-in-court-judges-get-critical/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...erts_lied_about_research_and_vincent_rue.html

From the outset of the hearing that lasted twice as long as the allotted time, Judge Catharina Haynes, directing her questions to State Solicitor General Jonathan Mitchell, expressed trouble discerning how the ASC physical plant requirements improve women’s safety.

"... why can’t you have a sterile operating environment in a 3,000 square foot [clinic]?” asked Haynes.

"You can kind of find an expert to say anything,” she told the state’s attorney. “Are we saying if you can find someone in the world to say we need marble floors in an abortion clinic, then that would be good enough to allow the Texas legislature to pass that?”
-Judge Catharina Haynes

BABY KILLERS ARE KILLERS AND NOT CREDIBLE

 

[RobDownSouth]

Sounds like BS.

Hey, I hear you Vietnam marine REMFs are getting a monument in Washington DC!

Artist's conceptual model:
http://mediaassets.tcpalm.com/photo/2014/03/23/hunger01_3654395_ver1.0_640_480.JPG

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Sounds like BS.

you can tell when Rob (aka RubbinglittledownSouth) is lying as he will switch the subject to something else. rob just wants to drink the obama juice

 

[Boxlicker101]

It's like pulling teeth. They will but they make you go through a bunch of classes and take counseling and be either 24 or have 2 kids already and I'm sitting here like, "IT'S FUCKING REVERSIBLE! IT TAKES 15 MINUTES! Look, there's a scalpel right there on that table, just pick it up and let's do this."

But my insurance is slightly different from Medicare so they might not be such hardasses about it. But everyone I know who's had one has had to go through that stupid shit.

Medicaid used to pay for sterilization procedures as long as the patient was at least 18 years old. Except for being Medicaid eligible and mentally competent, there were no other requirements, although the providers might have had additional requirements.

I doubt that Medicare would pay for such a procedure for women unless there were some other medical reason. At 65 years old, women are past child-bearing already.