What's the point of having an alt, if everybody knows who you are?

[RobDownSouth]

I believe they don't realize how unappealing it makes either of them look.

*shrug

Well, you're half right.

Took me a min to realize you're probably referring to the Lit Wings.

Ooooh, and here I thought I could slide that one by ya.

Well, things might be different if people around here accepted others as actual people rather than flat one-note characters. In real life, I have never said to someone "That's not what you said 2 years ago! OhmyGod! You're such a liar and a hypocrite!" People around here hold others to a very rigid view point and ability to express their opinion. Even when someone admits that they were wrong, very rarely is credit given, especially if the argument got heated. No, if you're wrong and you admit it, it is seen as you being stupid, a failure, a weakling. So, not only are people discouraged from learning and growing and evolving as humans naturally do, but we're also discouraged by the populace from admitting or owning up to mistakes, even when we might not necessarily agree with that opinion we held anymore. We're sworn to defend that position until the day that userID never logs in again lest we lose ALL credibility forever.

I think in that way, a lot of times it does encourage alt-making to express opinions or changes to our thought-patterns that it would be deemed unacceptable to the status quo for the main identity to have. I say we reject that line of thinking. If we're really supposed to take care and remember that there are real people behind the screen, then let's stop treating them like one-dimensional characters with no ability to grow or change. Just my 2 cents.

I think you might be generalizing a bit. I personally have no problem whatsoever admitting when I make a mistake on an error of fact. The problem as I see it is that a lot of folks here confuse opinion with facts.

I do get a kick out of the lengths that some folks here go to to avoid admitting a mistake. When "mathmatics" (sic) major 4est_4est_Gump declared that one quarter one dollar and one nickel equaled 91 cents for example. Or when Vetty solemnly swore that Drudge was the "number one news site on the Internet. Both of these guys spent literally dozens of posts "explaining" their answer was "technically correct".

Another fun thing is when folks redefine words here. Lit's "Nutty Perfesser" kbate is the classic case: she redefined the word "racism" to mean saying anything positive about any race. (This goes a long way towards explaining why she never got tenured teaching anywhere). More recently, query jumped through hoops redefining the phrase "annual interest" to avoid acknowledging a fact from cowslinger.

 

[Que]

That whole "unrestrained" thing...

Are you hinting that I should pack the cuffs?

 

[Aquagal]

Be a man

That never even occurred to me, sounds like work.

I LOL'd, my mouth open wide.

Gum me?

See Honey, you're already getting ready for her

Hahahaha!!

No, I very much do get that. Which is why I have tried ignoring, pushing back,...on

I don't know, I just skip over you two when you're in the 'mode'.

***DEAD***


I don't do pussy. or tits. sorry Aqua. how 'bout some tri-tip dinner instead?



Query

Yes to that! Weird, here they cut the fat off and call it user friendly meat. Tastes like a dried up roast without that fat cap. Gotta ask for it special that way.

 

[Littlefinger]

I think you might be generalizing a bit. I personally have no problem whatsoever admitting when I make a mistake on an error of fact. The problem as I see it is that a lot of folks here confuse opinion with facts.

I do get a kick out of the lengths that some folks here go to to avoid admitting a mistake. When "mathmatics" (sic) major 4est_4est_Gump declared that one quarter one dollar and one nickel equaled 91 cents for example. Or when Vetty solemnly swore that Drudge was the "number one news site on the Internet. Both of these guys spent literally dozens of posts "explaining" their answer was "technically correct".

Another fun thing is when folks redefine words here. Lit's "Nutty Perfesser" kbate is the classic case: she redefined the word "racism" to mean saying anything positive about any race. (This goes a long way towards explaining why she never got tenured teaching anywhere). More recently, query jumped through hoops redefining the phrase "annual interest" to avoid acknowledging a fact from cowslinger.

In regards to everything I just said, I really don't know how to respond to this, Rob.

 

[SmileyGirl]

Ha!

I'd be hard for me to make an alt, what would I put up for pics?

A googled cockatar ofcourse

 

[missgreekgeek]

I'm off to work for a few ladies.

Try not to have too much fun without me!

 

[Aquagal]

A googled cockatar ofcourse

Of course that'd be my first choice! Awww but everyone would iggy me then.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

That whole "unrestrained" thing...

Are you hinting that I should pack the cuffs?

gee, was I that obvious?

 

[Aquagal]

But what about when she becomes her male alt? Will she get a shot?
Joking Aqua love youuuuuuu!

This is so funny! Will Honey do my male alt?

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

I don't know, I just skip over you two when you're in the 'mode'.

Yes to that! Weird, here they cut the fat off and call it user friendly meat. Tastes like a dried up roast without that fat cap. Gotta ask for it special that way.

I think that's what I'll do.

NEED THE FAT.

and the holy trinity:

salsa
salad
San Luis sourdough

and beans.

 

[Que]

Priceless. It almost looks like Rob, himself, is my alt set out to prove my point.

Well, you're half right.

Here he openly acknowledges he thinks he comes off looking attractive in this exchange.

Unlike all of the old homilies "Never argue with an idiot, because no one can tell the difference" and "Don't roll around with a pig, you will both get muddy and the pig likes it."

So my #AscriptionAgain as he likes to call it, was accurate. He believes it is possible to look good while demeaning others.

I think you might be generalizing a bit. I personally have no problem whatsoever admitting when I make a mistake on an error of fact. The problem as I see it is that a lot of folks here confuse opinion with facts.

I do get a kick out of the lengths that some folks here go to to avoid admitting a mistake. When "mathmatics" (sic) major 4est_4est_Gump declared that one quarter one dollar and one nickel equaled 91 cents for example. Or when Vetty solemnly swore that Drudge was the "number one news site on the Internet. Both of these guys spent literally dozens of posts "explaining" their answer was "technically correct".

Another fun thing is when folks redefine words here. Lit's "Nutty Perfesser" kbate is the classic case: she redefined the word "racism" to mean saying anything positive about any race. (This goes a long way towards explaining why she never got tenured teaching anywhere). More recently, query jumped through hoops redefining the phrase "annual interest" to avoid acknowledging a fact from cowslinger.

Here he confirms Littlefinger's point that people constantly bring up past conversations. He seems to think it builds his own value in his mind. I realize he obviously uses bookmarks, but I have always pictured him in a basement with post-its on the walls of all of his best "zingers" and historical archive material.

As far as "admitting when he is wrong" that is what his latest alt tantrum is about. He was annoyed that for two weeks I bumped his oil thread where his very title and OP made him look foolish. He never even attempted to explain or defend his thesis, much less admit that as stated it cannot possibly be correct.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

This is so funny! Will Honey do my male alt?

we'll both be switches. how efficient of us.


*smug face*

 

[Wings]

Well actually I am, but again there's an age difference, besides she's madly in lust with her new ginger boyfriend. But hey she's over six feet and swears like a sailor, what's not to like?

Love and lust, get it right buster.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

Love and lust, get it right buster.

a ginger?? well, and who can blame you!

 

[Que]

I don't know, I just skip over you two when you're in the 'mode'.

That is what I assume most reasonable people do. He acts as if he has this fascinated audience for his shenanigans. I realize people are bored to tears. Longer posts are better for that.

He regularly employs the "royal we." As in:

"Tell US again about how..."

As if people are actually following along with rapt attention.

The one thing he does do well in these exchanges is when he realizes he has overplayed it, he slinks away to fight another day. He prefers to snipe over actual debate.

 

[Littlefinger]

I can see plainly his lack of self-awareness right up next to my quoted statements but it's not just him. It's all the politicos, including you, query, at this very moment. I do not see the value in playing their game by hanging onto each and every past discussion when you enter a new thread. I don't even see the value of getting upset about someone talking about your daughter on a forum where nobody knows her, nobody cares about her and nobody is an actual real threat to her.

It's a mental game and you're part of the problem, in my opinion. I mean, if you're having fun, then great. But there's no outrage. There's no "winning".

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

I can see plainly his lack of self-awareness right up next to my quoted statements but it's not just him. It's all the politicos, including you, query, at this very moment. I do not see the value in playing their game by hanging onto each and every past discussion when you enter a new thread. I don't even see the value of getting upset about someone talking about your daughter on a forum where nobody knows her, nobody cares about her and nobody is an actual real threat to her.

It's a mental game and you're part of the problem, in my opinion. I mean, if you're having fun, then great. But there's no outrage. There's no "winning".

this ^^

 

[cowslinger64]

Priceless. It almost looks like Rob, himself, is my alt set out to prove my point.



Here he openly acknowledges he thinks he comes off looking attractive in this exchange.

Unlike all of the old homilies "Never argue with an idiot, because no one can tell the difference" and "Don't roll around with a pig, you will both get muddy and the pig likes it."

So my #AscriptionAgain as he likes to call it, was accurate. He believes it is possible to look good while demeaning others.



Here he confirms Littlefinger's point that people constantly bring up past conversations. He seems to think it builds his own value in his mind. I realize he obviously uses bookmarks, but I have always pictured him in a basement with post-its on the walls of all of his best "zingers" and historical archive material.

As far as "admitting when he is wrong" that is what his latest alt tantrum is about. He was annoyed that for two weeks I bumped his oil thread where his very title and OP made him look foolish. He never even attempted to explain or defend his thesis, much less admit that as stated it cannot possibly be correct.

It's freaking hilarious that you are here with your thoughts on trolling and whining about rob. You showed yourself with your threads about me. As big of an asshole as I've been to you, that was way beyond anything I, or rob, have done.

Should have kept it to the threads instead of getting a whole other board see you crash and burn. It was very entertaining tho... For me any ways.

You and munky are two of the biggest dummies here.

 

[Tathagata]

Query and Rob just need a nice, long hate-fuck session.

Be sure to tape it, boys.

TIA.

Ah hate fucks
I miss those...not with Rob or Query though

 

[Tathagata]

Well, things might be different if people around here accepted others as actual people rather than flat one-note characters. In real life, I have never said to someone "That's not what you said 2 years ago! OhmyGod! You're such a liar and a hypocrite!" People around here hold others to a very rigid view point and ability to express their opinion. Even when someone admits that they were wrong, very rarely is credit given, especially if the argument got heated. No, if you're wrong and you admit it, it is seen as you being stupid, a failure, a weakling. So, not only are people discouraged from learning and growing and evolving as humans naturally do, but we're also discouraged by the populace from admitting or owning up to mistakes, even when we might not necessarily agree with that opinion we held anymore. We're sworn to defend that position until the day that userID never logs in again lest we lose ALL credibility forever.

I think in that way, a lot of times it does encourage alt-making to express opinions or changes to our thought-patterns that it would be deemed unacceptable to the status quo for the main identity to have. I say we reject that line of thinking. If we're really supposed to take care and remember that there are real people behind the screen, then let's stop treating them like one-dimensional characters with no ability to grow or change. Just my 2 cents.

Very true

 

[Tathagata]

Priceless. It almost looks like Rob, himself, is my alt set out to prove my point.



Here he openly acknowledges he thinks he comes off looking attractive in this exchange.

Unlike all of the old homilies "Never argue with an idiot, because no one can tell the difference" and "Don't roll around with a pig, you will both get muddy and the pig likes it."

So my #AscriptionAgain as he likes to call it, was accurate. He believes it is possible to look good while demeaning others.



Here he confirms Littlefinger's point that people constantly bring up past conversations. He seems to think it builds his own value in his mind. I realize he obviously uses bookmarks, but I have always pictured him in a basement with post-its on the walls of all of his best "zingers" and historical archive material.

As far as "admitting when he is wrong" that is what his latest alt tantrum is about. He was annoyed that for two weeks I bumped his oil thread where his very title and OP made him look foolish. He never even attempted to explain or defend his thesis, much less admit that as stated it cannot possibly be correct.

You put way too much energy and thought into this whole thing.
Wouldn't it be easier just to ignore it?

 

[john7771]

Pardon me...but can someone please tell me what an "alt" is?

 

[Que]

I can see plainly his lack of self-awareness right up next to my quoted statements but it's not just him. It's all the politicos, including you, query, at this very moment. I do not see the value in playing their game by hanging onto each and every past discussion when you enter a new thread. I don't even see the value of getting upset about someone talking about your daughter on a forum where nobody knows her, nobody cares about her and nobody is an actual real threat to her.

It's a mental game and you're part of the problem, in my opinion. I mean, if you're having fun, then great. But there's no outrage. There's no "winning".

That is actually a pretty nuanced point of view. Thanks.

When he created this latest string of alts about my daughter I (mostly) wisely ignored them and predictably he went over the top and most of it was deleted anyway. I did not quote them in the "Rob is a dick" thread, even though I was aware it was him, because I would rather those words not exist than be immortalized.

The twist of his then using the alts to pick a fight with Laurel and claim that I typed that vile spew caught me a little off guard.

As far as having no real world impact, my children's mother used to be on Lit regularly and has been known to stop by. Given that I have never had a conversation with Rob about my kids (or his) it would be a bit awkward to explain why some senior citizen in Houston Texas has such ugly things to say about our delightful child.

She would no doubt have some fairly pointed to things to say to an asshole like Rob, but it would be a one-and-done sort of thing that would result in him waiting another 56 years for his testicles to descend again.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

She would no doubt have some fairly pointed to things to say to an asshole like Rob, but it would be a one-and-done sort of thing that would result in him waiting another 56 years for his testicles to descend again.

had to laugh. those mama tigers, man, I tell ya.

 

[Que]

You put way too much energy and thought into this whole thing.
Wouldn't it be easier just to ignore it?

Rob is a special brand of troll. I have tried that. He simply ups the amplitude until he gets the negative attention he craves.

I kind of did, the first three of his alts where he was over the top. Plenty of other people told him it was disgusting, plenty of other people reported the posts and it died fairly quickly each time with little input from me. Then he turned it into "That campaign of harassment...yeah, it was actually him harrassing himself." I have people that actually know my alts and the subtle hand I use with them asking me if that nonsense is somehow true.


I found completely ignoring him was (arguably) worse than confronting him. He makes up entire scenarios and quotes, out of whole cloth, and with the gift of a pathological liar, some of it gets believed.

What was most effective, but it took the most discipline was to put him on a rigorous schedule. I used to only address him if the day of the month was a prime number.

I do take some comfort in the fact that he will go to these lengths to try to regain what he remembers as some sort of former glory.