What to do about militant Islam?

Ishmael

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I've been asked that question time and time again. I even answered it once 10 years ago or so and my solution is still the same. No one seems to like it, but war is ugly. The answer is;

Kill the clerics.

Infiltrate the Mosques and if the cleric is preaching hate and death, kill him. No trial, no 'due process', just dead right now. And you keep doing that for as long as it takes until the Muslim world starts to settle down.

In the long run there will be a LOT less loss of life on all sides. Currently we, and others, are pissing away national blood and treasure at an unsustainable rate. The Muslims, particularly in the near East, breed like fucking rats. The fertility rate in some of those nations is 5+. They are always going to have an ample supply of young men to throw into the shredder of war. We are busily killing the generals, colonels, majors, etc. and they are replaced just as quickly as their predecessor died.

Their entire claim to the justification of their actions comes from their belief in Islam and the Prophet. And while there are many Muslims the world over that disagree with the basis of their moral imperative, the only thing that counts in the end is their own iron clad belief in that moral imperative no matter how flawed.

And where does the moral justification come from? THE CLERICS! Without the moral rationalization of those clerics they can point to no moral justification for their actions. Further, as the radical clerics die they too will be replaced and if their replacement is another fire breathing jihadist, well, kill him too. Eventually the clerical ranks will be filled with the 'moderates' of the religion.

The solution is brutal to be certain, but NO innocent will die. We will not have to face wave after wave of radicals at the sacrifice of our young men and women. We will not have to continually trade liberty for security within our own borders. And if that peace is purchased with the lives of a few thousand clerics, who gives a shit?

In the end it is the most civilized, quickest, and least costly, in lives and gold, path to being able to live together in peace if not in harmony.

Ishmael
 
Ah, the fatal flaw in Ish's 10 year-old "solution".

There is one subtle difference. To be a Muslim Cleric, you must be male.

The ULC welcomes female reverends.

I'm one. Jeanne D Artois is another. That could get complicated. Both oggbashan and jeanne_d_artois are fake identities, yet both are ULC Ministers.
 
There is one subtle difference. To be a Muslim Cleric, you must be male.

The ULC welcomes female reverends.

I'm one. Jeanne D Artois is another. That could get complicated. Both oggbashan and jeanne_d_artois are fake identities, yet both are ULC Ministers.

So, potentially the killing of half the Muslim world.

Because, as we all know, killing the killers always leads to fewer new killers.
 
About as difficult as me becoming an on-line Reverend via the Universal Life Church of Modesto, California.

You can too:

http://www.ulc.org/

True enough, but if you make the life expectancy very short for the fire breathers fewer and fewer will 'heed the call.'

Quite a few of these clowns get into the clerical biz. for the money, not the salvation of souls. Under Islam the followers of a particular Mosque are expected to tithe 10% of their income to the Mosque. In the more organized Islamic nations a portion of that is forwarded to the next higher Mosque on the rung, and a portion of that goes to the Grand Mosque of the region. How it works in the Euro zone, or even in the US, is anybodies guess. Regardless, there is a lot of money tied up in the salvation biz. just like there is with other religions.

The monies that the head cleric retains can be spent by himself at his own discretion, and if that is to fund terrorism, sobeit. And in that funding he will gain the support of the fire breathers, who will recruit more for the Mosque, making even more funds available. It becomes a self funding enterprise with the cleric providing the moral justification for the followers of his Mosque. When you shut down the cleric, you interrupt the money train. And you continue to interrupt that flow of monies until such time as no fire breathing cleric dare start a Mosque.

Ishmael
 
So, potentially the killing of half the Muslim world.

Because, as we all know, killing the killers always leads to fewer new killers.

And reducing the male population isn't as effective as killing the females because one male can impregnate multiple females...

Some might welcome building large harems.
 
why is this different then what BUSYBODY proposed right after 9/11?
 
And reducing the male population isn't as effective as killing the females because one male can impregnate multiple females...

Some might welcome building large harems.

you finished writing?

then you can go back and answer the question I AXED
 
Basically we should go for the final solution? Great plan. Maybe it's time we engage them?
 
The problem again is the definitions of a cleric and a mosque.

While it is traditional to donate 10% of income for charitable purposes, which includes the mosque, there are so many varieties (more than the Heinz 57!) of Islam in Europe that anyone can call himself a Muslim Cleric and set up a mosque - in his cellar if he wants to.

The Muslim Council in the UK claims to represent 500 Muslim organisations but admits it only covers half of UK Muslims...
 
Nothing like a little preemptive murder to solve your problems. Hitler is beaming with pride.
 
No. You have become too repetitive and boring. I'm adding you to virtual ignore.

typical

its been done since 2001

a poster gets CAUGHT

is embarrassed and shamed

and

screeches

IGGY

unoriginal, Oggy:kiss:
 
typical

its been done since 2001

a poster gets CAUGHT

is embarrassed and shamed

and

screeches

IGGY

unoriginal, Oggy:kiss:

so you just made uo the fact that MOSQUES and MUSLIMS are attacked there

and didn't expect to be AXED about it

you underestimated Sammy:D
 
The problem again is the definitions of a cleric and a mosque.

While it is traditional to donate 10% of income for charitable purposes, which includes the mosque, there are so many varieties (more than the Heinz 57!) of Islam in Europe that anyone can call himself a Muslim Cleric and set up a mosque - in his cellar if he wants to.

The Muslim Council in the UK claims to represent 500 Muslim organisations but admits it only covers half of UK Muslims...

Understood, but Interpol, your police, our FBI, etc. knows where each and every one of those 'Mosques' are and what is being preached within. The 'clerics' are not operating behind some cloak of invisibility.

Ishmael
 
Understood, but Interpol, your police, our FBI, etc. knows where each and every one of those 'Mosques' are and what is being preached within. The 'clerics' are not operating behind some cloak of invisibility.

Ishmael

how do you propose that can happen

when we have WORLD LEADERS not even agreeing on the issue of ISLAM and the TERROR?
 
Understood, but Interpol, your police, our FBI, etc. knows where each and every one of those 'Mosques' are and what is being preached within. The 'clerics' are not operating behind some cloak of invisibility.

Ishmael

I wish that were true. It isn't.

There are too many 'mosques', too many 'clerics' and too few in the security services.
 
untenable


what should be done is DEPORT all those that are JIHAD minded or close to it AND the families

NO QUESTIONS asked

stop all immigration into Western Countries

at a minumum
 
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