President Obama's energy policies result in 5 1/2 year low for oil

[KingOrfeo]

It would be directly against Obama's stated energy policies to cause oil prices to fall through increases in production for environmental reasons.

It would be directly against common sense, too. We've gotta leave some of that stuff in the ground, never to be burned, never to add CO2 to the air.

 

[Que]

It would be directly against common sense, too. We've gotta leave some of that stuff in the ground, never to be burned, never to add CO2 to the air.

Yet, Rob, who always cares more about scoring points than any particular policy and Phrodeau who claims to care about reducing fossil fuel consumption both insist that if you look at Obama's stated energy policy you can see that he should be credited for the current low prices and higher consumption.

Odd, don't you think?

 

[phrodeau]

Yet, Rob, who always cares more about scoring points than any particular policy and Phrodeau who claims to care about reducing fossil fuel consumption both insist that if you look at Obama's stated energy policy you can see that he should be credited for the current low prices and higher consumption.

Odd, don't you think?

Very odd, since I never said that.

Where was acreage restricted? Which permits were delayed?

 

[Que]

Very odd, since I never said that.

Where was acreage restricted? Which permits were delayed?

Google is your friend.

I stand corrected on your position vis-a-vis Robbie's thesis, if and only if, the position I ascribed for your unstated, but implicit position was incorrect.

So what will it be? Was that accurate, or inaccurate ascription on my part? Take a quiz to find out:

Reading the original post, "President Obama's policies result in 5 1/2 year low for oil," do you find that statement to be:
correct, or incorrect? (Choose only one.)

Required essay portion If correct: Explain which of Obama's policies had that effect and what market factor the policy influenced that caused the price to drop.

 

[phrodeau]

Google is your friend.

I stand corrected on your position vis-a-vis Robbie's thesis, if and only if, the position I ascribed for your unstated, but implicit position was incorrect.

So what will it be? Was that accurate, or inaccurate ascription on my part? Take a quiz to find out:

Reading the original post, "President Obama's policies result in 5 1/2 year low for oil," do you find that statement to be:
correct, or incorrect? (Choose only one.)

Required essay portion If correct: Explain which of Obama's policies had that effect and what market factor the policy influenced that caused the price to drop.

Google is your friend.

 

[Que]

Google is your friend.

I cannot Google to ascertain your position unless you are published elsewhere.

Is Robbie right, or is Robbie wrong?

I don't need Google to prove a negative. There were no Obama policies that I am aware of that would have had the effect of lowering the price of oil.

 

[Adre]

I cannot Google to ascertain your position unless you are published elsewhere.

Is Robbie right, or is Robbie wrong?

I don't need Google to prove a negative. There were no Obama policies that I am aware of that would have had the effect of lowering the price of oil.

And yet he has been the most powerful person in the world for six plus years and the price of oil is now $46 per barrel. Something is different.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Is the Vettebigot attempting to assign credit for Obama successes to Dubya again?

 

[Busybody]

Is Rob assigning credit for Bush initiatives to Obama again?

yes

 

[Que]

Is the Vettebigot attempting to assign credit for Obama successes to Dubya again?

Doubling down, are you? Consider the number of oil rigs that are currently in active production, pumping oil that is part of this increase in production. Of those wells that are located on public land, were not a great number of them permitted and approved prior to this administration's inception? How many had permits applied for and in process when Obama took over? Did the time from application to approval (if given) increase, or decrease under the current administration?

Given that the vast majority of the new technology was in development during the halcyon days when the evil oilmen owned the White House and given that these oilmen devoted the vast bulk of their resources to private lands after Obama took over, did you want to go ahead and make that linkage to this being an Obama success?

And yet he has been the most powerful person in the world for six plus years and the price of oil is now $46 per barrel. Something is different.

Technology is different. Were you attempting to link his presidency to fostering an environment that resulted in the increase in production that led to lower oil prices?

Be interesting to see you make that linkage, since Robbie has not attempted it since the OP, two weeks ago.

 

[RobDownSouth]

yes

Gotta give the vettebigot credit for consistency. He's not very smart, but he is consistent!

(Unlike, say, query, who is neither smart nor consistent!)

 

[Que]

I feel this thread is losing its entertainment value. We all know that Robbie is not man enough to admit the most basic bitch of an error, much less an egregiously stupid statement like the OP. I say we run out the clock at 200 posts and let l'il Robbie retire the thought in ignominy.

:nods:

Gotta give the vettebigot credit for consistency. He's not very smart, but he is consistent!

(Unlike, say, query, who is neither smart nor consistent!)

No glory in your being consistently dumb, Otiose.

Aren't you late creating todays alt?

 

[Adre]

Technology is different. Were you attempting to link his presidency to fostering an environment that resulted in the increase in production that led to lower oil prices?

Be interesting to see you make that linkage, since Robbie has not attempted it since the OP, two weeks ago.

I stated two irrefutable facts, as opposed to opinions parading as facts. I'll leave it to others to make whatever linkages they may wish.

 

[Busybody]

Fracking

Saved

The

Economy

For

Hussein

Obola

 

[RobDownSouth]

I stated two irrefutable facts, as opposed to opinions parading as facts.

That's what sets you apart from the query/busybody/contrifan/vettebigot contingent. You and your pesky facts so often intrude upon their carefully constructed reality-distortion zones.

 

[Busybody]

Oh stfu with bs.....no one falls for it

 

[BotanyBoy]

You mean

Russia LOST

ISIS born

IRS

Libya=terrorist state

isn't really an issue?

yes, I know, the NIGGER DEFENSE team is in offense mode against us all....but really

Russia was never ours to lose.

ISIS, no one can come up with a single reason why the USA should give one wet fart about them...

IRS, most of us are fine paying our taxes, we like roads and shit.

Libya = no one gives a fuck.

I'm not defending Obama, Just not seeing that stupid shit as an issue.

 

[mikey2much]

If you had been Obama..

Doubling down, are you? Consider the number of oil rigs that are currently in active production, pumping oil that is part of this increase in production. Of those wells that are located on public land, were not a great number of them permitted and approved prior to this administration's inception? How many had permits applied for and in process when Obama took over? Did the time from application to approval (if given) increase, or decrease under the current administration?

Given that the vast majority of the new technology was in development during the halcyon days when the evil oilmen owned the White House and given that these oilmen devoted the vast bulk of their resources to private lands after Obama took over, did you want to go ahead and make that linkage to this being an Obama success?



Technology is different. Were you attempting to link his presidency to fostering an environment that resulted in the increase in production that led to lower oil prices?

Be interesting to see you make that linkage, since Robbie has not attempted it since the OP, two weeks ago.

Query, if you had been in Obama's place you would have maybe slowed things down more than Obama did.

Obama's first two years were spent pretty much stamping out the fire of depression that was licking at his heels. Bush had just exited stage right after emptying the coffers to bail out his wall street friends.

But there is a war going own and it not only is badly managed, its in the wrong country for the wrong reason. While the guy who really committed the act of 9/11
was downgraded to "someone I don't think about too much".

And then you get the BP blowout in the gulf, one of those wells approved by bush. If you had been in charge, having to stand back and watch the gulf coast turn into an oil slick. While the safety devices that should have saved the situation didn't work. If you had been Obama wouldn't you have stopped any new wells until you had the time to double check behind the idiot who held your job before you.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Russia was never ours to lose.

ISIS, no one can come up with a single reason why the USA should give one wet fart about them...

IRS, most of us are fine paying our taxes, we like roads and shit.

Libya = no one gives a fuck.

I'm not defending Obama, Just not seeing that stupid shit as an issue.

^^^Damned hippie librul
:nods:

 

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[Que]

Query, if you had been in Obama's place you would have maybe slowed things down more than Obama did.

Obama's first two years were spent pretty much stamping out the fire of depression that was licking at his heels. Bush had just exited stage right after emptying the coffers to bail out his wall street friends.

But there is a war going own and it not only is badly managed, its in the wrong country for the wrong reason. While the guy who really committed the act of 9/11
was downgraded to "someone I don't think about too much".

And then you get the BP blowout in the gulf, one of those wells approved by bush. If you had been in charge, having to stand back and watch the gulf coast turn into an oil slick. While the safety devices that should have saved the situation didn't work. If you had been Obama wouldn't you have stopped any new wells until you had the time to double check behind the idiot who held your job before you.

Nice regurgitation of 2012 talking points. None of it true of course. But good effort. "Stamping out?" How about extending a recession with the worst recovery ever. We would currently be in a double dip recession if not for fracking.

 

[Que]

I stated two irrefutable facts, as opposed to opinions parading as facts. I'll leave it to others to make whatever linkages they may wish.

Dick Cheney had heart transplant, George Bush took up painting and wrote a book. Oil is at historic lows...

...something has changed.

Random, unrelated facts presented together to suggest linkage where there is none is simply obfuscation. Nice try.

 

[Disgustipated]

Nice regurgitation of 2012 talking points. None of it true of course. But good effort. "Stamping out?" How about extending a recession with the worst recovery ever. We would currently be in a double dip recession if not for fracking.

Dick Cheney had heart transplant, George Bush took up painting and wrote a book. Oil is at historic lows...

...something has changed.

Random, unrelated facts presented together to suggest linkage where there is none is simply obfuscation. Nice try.

Lawlz.

 

[Que]

Lawlz.

Oh look! Robs top economic advisor has shown up for the final post.

I guess we can let Rob slink away from this steaming pile of derp.

"Derp. Not only tolerated, it is my specialty!" -BobsDownSouth