At least 11 Dead in Paris

[Busybody]

So you are going to kill a billion people because some of them are jihadis?.............no, EXPELL em from Western countries...or KILL EM in Western countries....let em kill each other THERE

Why don't you kill all the communities in the US who produce random killers?....

don't be silly

 

[northstarlet]

I didn't say 'would'. I wrote 'could'.

If the 13 Colonies had remained British, do you think the tail would be wagging the dog? The UK would be a minor part of America. The colony would have taken over the coloniser.

Utter rot. We are too remote and entrenched in our own ways. The EU is the coloniser of us instead.

 

[Que]

So you are going to kill a billion people because some of them are jihadis?

Why don't you kill all the communities in the US who produce random killers?

Jihadis are not random killers. They are soldiers in the army of a theocracy. Even Phrodeau pointed this out with the analogy that yes, leaving the faith is a death sentence, so is deserting our post as a soldier.

 

[Busybody]

BTW, when you say SOME of them are JIHADISTS

you EXCLUDE the ENABLERS? FUNDERS? PLANNERS? etc?

 

[Busybody]

so your idea of how to deal with em

HAS been tried and HASNT worked

WHAT NOW?

 

[domroger]

I have no solutions either.

When your next door neighbour's polite helpful son can become a terrorist who commits murder on the streets of his town, how to you stop him?

How do you identify him? He might claim to be a moderate Muslim, attend a moderate Mosque, have a job, a girlfriend and show no abnormal behaviour until one day he decides to be a 'martyr' for radical fanatics.

Bombing Yemen (most of whom are fighting Al-Queda) and bombing Iraq and Syria where Al-Queda are fighting the so-called Islamic State might prevent expansion of territory but it does NOTHING to stop the home-grown terrorist. Instead it gives them 'justification' for their acts. Al-Queda and IS are embedded in civilian communities. Unless they are on a battlefield it is very difficult to bomb them without killing 'innocents', particularly children. Both have learned from HAMAS - place your weapons and bases in or close to schools, hospitals, UN facilities, and mosques so that any attack can be condemned as 'unjust'.

Fighting jihadists is not simple. It is extremely difficult to identify them in our midst.

We have to fight them. But the best, and probably only way, is to work with Muslims to destroy the jihadists' basis of their perverted ideology. That cannot be done by armed police, or special forces, only by fellow Muslims rejecting them. 'Not in my name' is a good start, as were the Muslims on the streets of France.

As usual the voice of sanity and reason .

 

[oggbashan]

BTW, when you say SOME of them are JIHADISTS

you EXCLUDE the ENABLERS? FUNDERS? PLANNERS? etc?

No. They are included.

But that does not justify calling for the deaths of a billion people.

 

[Busybody]

No. They are included.

But that does not justify calling for the deaths of a billion people.

in Western countries

I could care less who they kill in their own

 

[Busybody]

As usual the voice of sanity and reason .

sanity and reason DOESNT work vs CRAZY FANATICS

 

[oggbashan]

Utter rot. We are too remote and entrenched in our own ways. The EU is the coloniser of us instead.

During the days before the Declaration of Independence the 13 Colonies were offered representation at the Westminster Parliament, to meet the just claim of "No taxation without representation". If that had been agreed, as the US grew in population and spread Westward, MPs from the US would have been a majority of the UK Parliament.

 

[oggbashan]

in Western countries

I could care less who they kill in their own

You are still suggesting killing many millions of people, more deaths than Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Hitler.

That is genocide.

 

[Busybody]

You are still suggesting killing many millions of people, more deaths than Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Hitler.

That is genocide.

yes

survival


Stalin, et all killed HIS personal enemies, if they were ENEMIES of the STATE and represented a MORTAL threat to the well being of the PEOPLE of said state is debatable (they weren't)

MUSLIMS ARE


Your alternative?

BTW....give em a chance to LEAVE

there are 57 Islamic states in the world

57~!!!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

As usual the voice of sanity and reason .

Ogg is the voice of Neville Chamberlain appeasers.

 

[Busybody]

Ogg is the voice of Neville Chamberlain appeasers.

 

[Busybody]

they are ALL the same

that King Hussein was there

that Abbas was there

DOOMS FRANCE

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...oic-un-hate-speech-criticism-column/21609273/

 

[oggbashan]

Ogg is the voice of Neville Chamberlain appeasers.

You obviously didn't pass history.

Did Chamberlain have a choice? No country would back the UK if he had gone to war with Germany at Munich. The UK wasn't ready for war and had no land border with Germany. His own government wasn't prepared to back him.

What he did was buy time for re-armament. Yet he is constantly accused of being an appeaser when he was acting in the best interests of the UK at the time. He knew war was coming and the UK was not ready either to support a decision to declare war, and more importantly, in no state to fight one.

If labelling me an appeaser amuses you, I prefer that to being an advocate of genocide of millions of people. You would be a war criminal, killing hundreds of thousands of US citizens and millions throughout Europe.

 

[Busybody]

You obviously didn't pass history.

Did Chamberlain have a choice? No country would back the UK if he had gone to war with Germany at Munich. The UK wasn't ready for war and had no land border with Germany. His own government wasn't prepared to back him.

What he did was buy time for re-armament. Yet he is constantly accused of being an appeaser when he was acting in the best interests of the UK at the time. He knew war was coming and the UK was not ready either to support a decision to declare war, and more importantly, in no state to fight one.

If labelling me an appeaser amuses you, I prefer that to being an advocate of genocide of millions of people. You would be a war criminal, killing hundreds of thousands of US citizens and millions throughout Europe.

he didn't BUY time....he was a DUPE

war criminals are dictated by the WNNERS.....so if we lose, we are war criminals, but who cares...cause we will be dead

so what would YOU DO?

 

[Busybody]

this is right on

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R1TbXZn2MO4/VLKFNzdyHxI/AAAAAAAAQcw/7iIWywVJw7M/s1600/10928955_10152450479891330_8579502761902757641_o.jpg

 

[oggbashan]

I have already said that I don't have a solution.

What I do know is that killing millions of people is not a solution.

 

[contrifan32]

During the days before the Declaration of Independence the 13 Colonies were offered representation at the Westminster Parliament, to meet the just claim of "No taxation without representation". If that had been agreed, as the US grew in population and spread Westward, MPs from the US would have been a majority of the UK Parliament.

I was not aware of this? Are you saying that this "offer" was not agreed to by the Colonies?

 

[Busybody]

I have already said that I don't have a solution.

What I do know is that killing millions of people is not a solution.

then the killings and terror continues

until a BIG ONE hits and thousands if not more get killed

THEN WHAT?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I was not aware of this? Are you saying that this "offer" was not agreed to by the Colonies?

Great Britain offered the colonies "virtual represenation", which did nothing to change the status quo. It was widely criticized by both sides, and ultimately did nothing.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The American Revolution was the result of Britains Globalized economic domination via the East India Tea Company. Parliament and the Crown was dependent on the Tea Company to finance government and enrich the elites, and had its way in North America. That is, the Tea Company controlled American commerce, finance, and government. Everything went thru the Tea Company first and last. And the Tea Company gelded the American middle class till the middle class smuggled, employed foreign currency and finance, and ships to survive. All that followed was the Tea Company collecting taxes to pay for its commercial suppression of American commerce. The Tea Company forced America to go to war or starve.

 

[richard_daily]

The American Revolution was the result of Britains Globalized economic domination via the East India Tea Company. Parliament and the Crown was dependent on the Tea Company to finance government and enrich the elites, and had its way in North America. That is, the Tea Company controlled American commerce, finance, and government. Everything went thru the Tea Company first and last. And the Tea Company gelded the American middle class till the middle class smuggled, employed foreign currency and finance, and ships to survive. All that followed was the Tea Company collecting taxes to pay for its commercial suppression of American commerce. The Tea Company forced America to go to war or starve.

Sounds just like good ol' 'merikan capitalism today.

 

[oggbashan]

I was not aware of this? Are you saying that this "offer" was not agreed to by the Colonies?

It was too late, given speed of communication at the time.