Progressives Seek Control Of The Democratic Party

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Progressives Seek Control Of The Democratic Party

By Sahil Kapur Published January 9, 2015, 6:00 AM EST

As Republicans take control of Congress for the first time since 2006, the Democrats' crushing midterm defeat and the rise of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) have empowered the progressive wing to step up their fight for the soul of the party ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

Their message: Stop catering to big business. Listen to populists like Warren on how to rebuild the tarnished brand. Champion transformative ideas that will improve the lives of middle class Americans. If not, Democrats are toast in 2016.

"I can tell you, if Democrats try to adopt a Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council-type philosophy where we abandon average working Americans, we're not going to be successful [in 2016] or in general," Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told TPM. "This is a time where people talking about raising wages, fair trade bills that do not offshore our jobs, strengthening the right to organized labor unions. This is that moment to grab those issues in order to be successful. And if we abandon those issues and we sort of become Republican-lite, we're not going to be successful."

With Democrats' popularity at a record low and the party now in the minority in the House and Senate, the progressive caucus and outside activists say the party is now free to stop cutting bad deals with Republicans and must draw red lines against legislation designed to help narrow, wealthy interests.

"Democrats lost in 2014 because the brand was not associated with big, bold ideas that would be game-changing for peoples' lives," Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, said.

Jim Dean, the chairman of Democracy For America, said, "Without the trappings of leadership it's a lot easier to get focused on what's really important."

The Republican Party's lurch to the right has kept Democrats largely united in recent years to play defense against conservatives. But that may be about to change — Warren's fight against weakening Wall Street reform in the lame duck session jolted the left even though she lost. It could be sign of more internal Democratic feuds to come, and progressives welcome it.

"I think there will be divisions," Dean said. "We're at our best when we're competing for the best ideas, even though a lot of folks on the inside don't particularly like that."

Progressive advocates see the next two years through the prism of the coming 2016 race. They want Democrats to use their minority to lay down a sweeping populist agenda for the country ahead of the election, which could include breaking up the big banks, a major clean energy jobs bill or investments in education to let college students graduate debt free.

"Things like that will inspire people to vote," Green said. "So the question is, what do we do in 2015 and 2016 toward that north star vision?"

Even as the economy gradually improves, voters increasingly place greater trust in Republicans to handle it. In late September, Gallup found an 11-point advantage for Republicans on which party voters trust to deal with the economy. In late April, they had a 5-point advantage.

Dean said Democrats should go against President Barack Obama on ideas like a free-trade agreement, which Republicans also support.

There is some convergence between progressive advocates and top Democrats. Party leaders want to protect Obama's initiatives — including Obamacare and his executive actions on immigration — but they also want to work with the GOP where possible.

"Leadership's main goal will be putting forward a Democratic message that makes clear we are focused on improving the lives of middle-class Americans," a senior Democratic Senate aide said. "We'll be pursuing policies that grow middle-class incomes and make expenses in everyday life less expensive. If Republican leadership is willing to stare down Ted Cruz and the Tea Party and put forth moderate proposals that actually help the middle class, they'll find Democrats eager to work with them."

DFA and MoveOn.org have launched a "Draft Warren" campaign for president, even though the Massachusetts senator has repeatedly resisted calls for a White House bid. They've dispatched organizers to Iowa and New Hampshire to bolster her agenda. The goal is also to pressure Hillary Clinton, whom progressive advocates are wary of, to adopt the Warren vision.

"I would love to see Elizabeth Warren in this race. It would be fantastic," Ellison told liberal activists on a conference call last month. "I think that it would help the quality of the debate and she may win, but even if she doesn't, I think she'd make Hillary Clinton a better candidate."

The left flank of the party scored a rare and significant year-end victory against President Barack Obama when he revealed that he won't renominate Michael Boggs to be a federal district court judge. Progressives fought to thwart the nomination over Boggs' past votes as a Georgia state legislator against abortion and in favor of maintaining the state's Confederate battle flag.

"One of the big lessons of the Boggs fight is that we, as progressives, have to stand up and fight for what we believe in. Even when the odds look long and even when we are opposing our usual allies – in this case the Administration," said Ilyse Hogue, the president of NARAL. "We can't win progressive victories if we don't fight for them publicly. ... I think the lead up to 2016 will be an active and exciting time."

For progressives, who feel the party has lost touch with its core identity, the next two years in the minority provide an opportunity to rediscover it.

"Most people voting Democrat don't know what they're voting for right now," Dean said. "They don't know who we are or what we're for. If we don't have [Warren's] kind of leadership in the presidential debates, the Democrats will not be in the White House in January 2017."
 
If these lunatics prevail most Democrats will flee to the GOP.
 
The Tea Party doesn't present alien repugnant concepts to the American people like the progressives do.

These "alien repugnant concepts" have a history here going back to Thomas Paine.

"Men did not make the earth... It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."

"There are, in every country, some magnificent charities established by individuals. It is, however, but little that any individual can do, when the whole extent of the misery to be relieved is considered. He may satisfy his conscience, but not his heart. He may give all that he has, and that all will relieve but little. It is only by organizing civilization upon such principles as to act like a system of pulleys, that the whole weight of misery can be removed."

"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came."

And, also, to Thomas Jefferson, see sigline below.
 
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Progressives, modern day stealth Communists, are the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party. Elizabeth Warren being it's wannabe chieftain. They will cleverly conceal their true agenda, but most Americans will sniff them out, as long as the opposition calls a spade a spade.

Their stated agenda is European-style social democracy.

Do you really believe their true agenda is anything else?
 
Progressives, modern day stealth Communists, are the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party. Elizabeth Warren being it's wannabe chieftain. They will cleverly conceal their true agenda, but most Americans will sniff them out, as long as the opposition calls a spade a spade.

The Democrats do this shit to get their asses kicked.
 
In my opinion the Constitution does not support European Socialism, which is what you're talking about . . .

That does not answer the question. What do you suspect American progressives of aiming at, other than social democracy? What is their "true agenda"?
 
The Tea Party doesn't present alien repugnant concepts to the American people like the progressives do.

Maybe YOU don't consider the Tea Party's prime directive of "fuck the poor" as repugnant, but a majority of Americans do.

This is why you cannot win presidential elections, by the way.
 
Maybe YOU don't consider the Tea Party's prime directive of "fuck the poor" as repugnant, but a majority of Americans do.

This is why you cannot win presidential elections, by the way.

^^^^^^always shows up for a battle of the wits unarmed.
 
The Tea Party has been most responsible for the major Republican gains in the House and Senate since 2010. There wouldn't be a House or Senate majority without them, numb nuts.

Small solace as that is to the GOP's sane wing.
 
The Democrats do this shit to get their asses kicked.

I think you'll find that if the American people ever are offered the chance to really, effectively vote against the plutocracy, they'll take it. No third-party run like Ralph Nader's in 2000 will ever give them that chance. But, if progressives come to have such influence, or more, in the Democratic Party as the Tea Party now has in the Republican, that will.
 
The Democrats do this shit to get their asses kicked.

And you can ask George McGovern and Mike Dukakis about that.

If most Dems see the party being controlled by the far left wing, they will either change to the GOP or team up with moderate Republicans and form a new party.
 
Economic equality was a goal of some of them.

Equal opportunity was and is a goal, to the degree it was feasible. But I don't believe any of the founding fathers favored the redistribution of wealth except, maybe, the wealth confiscated from Tories or stolen from American Indians.
 
Yes...just what the Democrats need....the "policies that were on the ballot"...and soundly defeated....only MOAR!

Do that...please?
 
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