a different angle on tackling the 'rape epidemic'.

[dolf]

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...op-rape-frat-boy-trained-bystanders?CMP=fb_gu

The recent national conversation about rape has been highly contentious: feminists and anti-rape activists (myself included) are exhausted from explaining over and over how rape culture operates; and even the well-intentioned but ill-informed armchair pundits still tell us that rape would magically disappear if women would just ... behave differently.

But Edwards thinks the traditional feminist strategy of focusing extensively on eliminating “rape culture” isn’t working quickly enough. When she does sexual assault intervention training at a college or in the military, she doesn’t care if the men in audience even know what “rape culture” means or if they laugh at or tell rape jokes – at least, she doesn’t care in the context of any one moment where that same person could intervene to stop a sexual assault.

essentially, just because a guy is a sexist prat, doesn't mean he's a bad person who wants to see women get hurt.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Rape has always existed. We can't be having an "epidemic" unless you have some reason to believe the incidence has been increasing.

 

[Mr Noone]

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...op-rape-frat-boy-trained-bystanders?CMP=fb_gu



essentially, just because a guy is a sexist prat, doesn't mean he's a bad person who wants to see women get hurt.

That's very sensible.

Rape has always existed. We can't be having an "epidemic" unless you have some reason to believe the incidence has been increasing.

I would agree up to a point. I never remember hearing anyone threaten rape as a form of physical retribution though, the way you do now.

 

[richard_daily]

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...op-rape-frat-boy-trained-bystanders?CMP=fb_gu



essentially, just because a guy is a sexist prat, doesn't mean he's a bad person who wants to see women get hurt.

Do people actually say that rape culture would disappear if women just behaved differently?

I admit that seems pretty unbelievable to me.

 

[lovetoread]

Rape is now a weapon to be used by anyone.

It is no longer only happening in dark alleys.

 

[SkAoUt]

So basically back to square one.

May as well bring back chivalry but relabel it.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

There is as much rape culture as there is murder culture. And there's a hell of a lot more car thefts than there are rapes. Teach killers not to murder. Teach thieves not to steal cars.

On a side note, this is what feminists want to get rid of:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/rapequotes.jpg

Hit their thermal exhaust port and you end rape culture.

 

[Noor]

When all women are armed and dangerous, rape culture of woman will stop.

 

[doowdniw]

What about chemical castration with the first offense? That should give some potential rapists pause for thought.

 

[dolf]

What about chemical castration with the first offense? That should give some potential rapists pause for thought.

because, weirdly enough, rapists aren't some other species of humanity, they're not all psychopathic monsters, and they won't all go on ten year rape sprees. because most rapists are just regular guys, your neighbour, your postman, your best mate, your son. because, though rape is a vile act which deserves to be punished, it shouldn't always mean that person has no place left in society.

I would rather see compulsory re-education, I would rather group therapy forced them to face up to the reality of their crime, and I would rather people put as much energy into supporting the tediousness of the victims' recovery (because it is fucking tedious) as they do into their yeehaw glee at the fantasy of a barbaric revenge.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Rape is now a weapon to be used by anyone.

It is no longer only happening in dark alleys.

"Now"? "No longer"? What makes you think anything has changed? Rape was never confined to alleys and war zones. There was always date-rape and acquaintance-rape; many people now living doubtless were conceived thereby, and many more in the generations before abortion and birth control were widely available.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

because, weirdly enough, rapists aren't some other species of humanity, they're not all psychopathic monsters, and they won't all go on ten year rape sprees. because most rapists are just regular guys, your neighbour, your postman, your best mate, your son. because, though rape is a vile act which deserves to be punished, it shouldn't always mean that person has no place left in society.

I would rather see compulsory re-education, I would rather group therapy forced them to face up to the reality of their crime, and I would rather people put as much energy into supporting the tediousness of the victims' recovery (because it is fucking tedious) as they do into their yeehaw glee at the fantasy of a barbaric revenge.

Pfft. If it weren't for the issue of false convictions (which impact African American men more than any other group) I'd be for executing rapists of either gender. Their place in society is worm food.

 

[PoppingTom]

When all women are armed and dangerous, rape culture of woman will stop.

Yes. Off course.

If all people are armed and dangerous, there is no crime at all.

 

[dolf]

when women are armed and dangerous, they will still not be constantly armed on their guard with friends, coworkers, dates, exes, etc. a tiny percentage of rapes are strangers in alleyways.

 

[Garnate]

When all women are armed and dangerous, rape culture of woman will stop.

I've been raped by 5 men. But not since I got a gun. Coincidence?

 

[PoppingTom]

I've been raped by 5 men. But not since I got a gun. Coincidence?

Maybe you've quitted to meet the wrong men, too.

 

[dolf]

Maybe you've quitted to meet the wrong men, too.

seriously? twat.

 

[dolf]

Maybe you've quitted to meet the wrong men, too.

because women should be fucking psychic, right? because if we can't see what nobody else can see either then clearly it's our fault?

fucking victim blaming douchebag.

 

[Garnate]

Maybe you've quitted to meet the wrong men, too.

Jesus, Canky. How many names do you have here?

 

[PoppingTom]

because women should be fucking psychic, right? because if we can't see what nobody else can see either then clearly it's our fault?

Never said that. Rapists are bad people.

I just have a hard time to imagine how a rapist sees the gun, if he's not knowing her. Or how it looks on her if she takes it open. Or just how this whole rape situation happens and how a gun prevents that.

Meeting the wrong people is not always own fault. Can happen to anybody, not everybody realizes that.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Real men don't rape or tolerate that behavior in other men.

 

[Garnate]

Never said that. Rapists are bad people.

I just have a hard time to imagine how a rapist sees the gun, if he's not knowing her. Or how it looks on her if she takes it open. Or just how this whole rape situation happens and how a gun prevents that.

Meeting the wrong people is not always own fault. Can happen to anybody, not everybody realizes that.

I.......I don't even know what to do with all that^^

 

[dolf]

I.......I don't even know what to do with all that^^

iggy?

 

[PoppingTom]

I.......I don't even know what to do with all that^^

You sound like your "5 times raped" is made up.

Otherwise it would be easy for you to clear these things up I'm talking about.

 

[PoppingTom]

iggy?

best way to discuss, seriously.