The Obamacare Hoax

[possum123]

The problem with media is that the news is now a 'for profit' part of all media.

Journalists are taught to report truth, which is noble and great and lasts until they get their first job in the media. Media companies teach and force employees to editorialize. The "journalists" naturally gravitate towards the media that fits their own politics because advancement is impossible against the current and that's for both the right and left sides of the media.

It was always a for profit thing.
Just the people paying the price has changed.
At one time the price was paid by the many who paid for a fair and as accurate as possible reporting.
Now the price is paid by those who have an agenda to push.

 

[possum123]

No.

In 1974 Nixon was run out of office under threat of impeachment for lying to the American people about committing a crime.

In 1999 Clinton was not impeached because sane people do not think getting a blowjob is a crime, nor was it the mandate of the Whitewater Special Prosecutor if he was getting extramarital head.

Getting a blow job is not a crime.
Lying under oath is a crime but many people will let a politician get away with any crime they decide to break.

 

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[Disgustipated]

The fact is, Obama and the Democrat Party conspired to perpetrate a cynically minded fraud on the American people. Purposely lying about the intent, effect, cost and benefit, of the ACA.

Many of us here could see it for what it was, while a multitude of others couldn't, and they took every opportunity to swear to Obama's lies in support of that fraud; thinking the means justified the Utopian end they naively believed would occur, but because they know and believe in a lot of things that aren't true, it didn't.

The truth has shouldered its way into the lives and employment of everyday working Americans, who now find themselves faced with heavy deductibles, higher premiums, and the prospect of part time employment.

So, off to the polls those hard working Americans went to show their abiding contempt for Democrats, their agenda, their President, his agenda, and his signature legislation, by summarily removing control of the Senate from the oppressive grasp of the collectivist Harry Reid & Company.

You're unemployed, on MediCal and pay illegals less than minimum wage to mow your lawn.

 

[Ishmael]

No.

In 1974 Nixon was run out of office under threat of impeachment for lying to the American people about committing a crime.

In 1999 Clinton was not impeached because sane people do not think getting a blowjob is a crime, nor was it the mandate of the Whitewater Special Prosecutor if he was getting extramarital head.

Clinton committed perjury, which is a crime...........period.

Ishmael

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Clinton committed perjury, which is a crime...........period.

Ishmael

Charged, and found not guilty.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

You're unemployed, on MediCal and pay illegals less than minimum wage to mow your lawn.

What part of "do as I say, not as I do" do you not unnerstand?

Vetteman has always put the "duh" in "double standard".

 

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[Que]

Clinton committed perjury, which is a crime...........period.

Ishmael

Not by any means the most serious of the charges contemplated. Plenty of obstruction of justice and witness tampering charges, were contemplated as well. Vernon Jordan getting Monica that job at Revlon to get her out of the way and pay for her silence, amongst them.

Just the known facts about his actions make his apologists look not only extremely partisan, but delusional the way people in co-dependant relationships make excuses.

The "It was just a blowjob, who wouldnt lie not to get caught" mob ignores the context that this all occured in. A lawsuit where it was necessary to establish a pattern of sexual abuse of women. The way they excuse it all is pretty interesting.

Notice that these apologists are the same ones that claim: "Sucessfull prosecutions of voter fraud are rare, therefore it follows that the incidence of fraud is rare." No one that has spent any time in court would assume perjury is rare. It is common-place. It is rarely prosecuted, even when provable. That does not make it OK. As we have seen with Gruber, some partisans are OK with lying if it promotes their side. Some partisans think Fawn Hall shredding documents was OK. It isn't. Deleting emails and destroying hard drives is not OK. Even if not doing so subjects one to embarrassment.

If you were ever going to say that, as a nation of laws, an oath in court means something and there are consequences for violating it, this was the case. If a President cannot be compelled in court to tell the truth or plead the 5th, then we are not a nation of laws. All court cases depend on sworn testimony to some degree.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The problem with media is that the news is now a 'for profit' part of all media.

Journalists are taught to report truth, which is noble and great and lasts until they get their first job in the media. Media companies teach and force employees to editorialize. The "journalists" naturally gravitate towards the media that fits their own politics because advancement is impossible against the current and that's for both the right and left sides of the media.

You mean that for centuries, media ran at a loss?

I think your pop-psy analysis is a bit off. They become who they are and want to change the world, for the better, most of the starting at the local level where every day they see humanity at its worst and people having the worst day of their life. No one has to teach them to editorialize, what may have actually happened is that editors simply stopped telling them not too having hired them for thinking just like they do.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No.

In 1974 Nixon was run out of office under threat of impeachment for lying to the American people about committing a crime.

In 1999 Clinton was not impeached because sane people do not think getting a blowjob is a crime, nor was it the mandate of the Whitewater Special Prosecutor if he was getting extramarital head.

He didn't commit a crime, he covered it up.

Bill Clinton's problem was not the blow job, but the denial of Paula Jones' civil rights and the subsequent committed crime of perjury.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Fined $90,000 by a federal judge for giving "intentionally false" testimony. The state of Arkansas fined him $25,000 to keep from being disbarred.

Refresh my memory here. Which "federal judge" presided over the impeachment trial? Seems to me I recall the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding.

You must be referring to something else besides the impeachment debacle.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Of course she believes it, her knowledge of history comes from a belief in how it must have been, instead of how it really was, thus her golden credential to enter the Ivory Tower.

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[RobDownSouth]

That was the political event. I was referring to a civil event in which Bill willfully committed perjury.

You do bounce around all over the place. "Let's throw it against the wall and see what sticks".

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

No sense in poking crazy with a knitting needle...

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Good natured?

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She's gone from being sarcastic to just plain hateful angry bird.