How Many Voters Have Been Disenfranchised

[unregistered]

 

[Wrong Element]

Well, this clearly proves that if you touch the Democratic box on a voting screen, it will register as having cast the vote for the Democrat. Why doesn't the person just press closer to that giant X in the center of the box, instead of right on the border of the two boxes? Because it doesn't make for a "shocking" video?

Stupid even for you.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Sean]

He's pushing the Republican box, you blind bat.

No he isn't, he's pressing the line.

 

[cjh]

Who knew?: digital hanging chads.

 

[Wrong Element]

He's pushing the Republican box, you blind bat.

No, it's filmed in a misleading way, I assume intentionally so in order to appeal to the paranoids out there (mission accomplished). The finger hovers over the Republican box in order to give the impression that's who he wants to vote for, but the fingertip hits on the Democratic side. It's really obvious with the last one.

It would be just as easy to make a video "proving" that the machines are cheating in favor of the Republicans; I assume someone is filming it as I type.

One other thing: simply touching the box is not the same thing as casting your vote -- it's not final until you've had a chance to review your entire ballot and press the "Vote" button.

 

[KingOrfeo]

There have been some accusations of electronic voting machines being tampered with or hacked or preprogrammed to fix elections; but in every single such case I ever heard of, the suspected vote-flips would have been in the Republican candidate's favor.

 

[Liar]

If you wanted to tamper with a voting machine so that it registered another option than what the voter tried to choose...

...would you let it show on the screen?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

This just might go down as the most fail-iest of Vettefail threads.

 

[kbate]

8 machines in Maryland were taken offline to be recalibrated when those selecting the republican had their vote register for the democratic candidate.

Unless the voter is an idiot - they can stop the process by not hitting "VOTE" on the final screen, but it is true that the touch screens were registering votes for the wrong candidate.

Use a pencil eraser or a stylus and you probably won't have the problem.

 

[Que]

Since the machines can be recalibrated, it is possible to calibrate them to give the electronic equivalent of hanging chads to the candidate of the calibrating technicians choice.

Simply a matter of having a few more pixels allocated to one candidate over the other. Fat-fingered-syndrome put to work.

People are not good at checking their work.

Seems a lot of work for marginal return. Would matter more on the lesser offices where people half the time are voting a straight ticket and don't know the names well.

 

[about_average]

If you wanted to tamper with a voting machine so that it registered another option than what the voter tried to choose...

...would you let it show on the screen?

This.

This is one of the stupidest threads in a long time. It's easy to change what is selected from what you "touch" just by changing the viewing angle of the touch screen. I've had it happen on poorly angled ATM's.

All the hair pulling about voter fraud is hilarious.
The majority of states have no way to audit accuracy of votes cast, no way to do a recount and no way for people to have any idea if the vote they cast even counted or counted toward their chosen candidate.

Yet the low information folks keep wringing their hands about insignificant actual voter fraud, ignoring an easy fix to the much greater risk to honest elections.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Meanwhile, we know which side is purging the voter rolls.

 

[about_average]

From the 2012 election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM&feature=youtu.be

 

[Wrong Element]

Meanwhile, we know which side is purging the voter rolls.

Still waiting for the first GB conservative to get all exercised about this much more common form of "disenfranchisement."

 

[Sean Renaud]

Since the machines can be recalibrated, it is possible to calibrate them to give the electronic equivalent of hanging chads to the candidate of the calibrating technicians choice.

Simply a matter of having a few more pixels allocated to one candidate over the other. Fat-fingered-syndrome put to work.

People are not good at checking their work.

Seems a lot of work for marginal return. Would matter more on the lesser offices where people half the time are voting a straight ticket and don't know the names well.

This is the same reason why there is no wide spread voter fraud. At least of people walking into a voting area and claiming to be someone who is registered in that district.

There may be lots when it comes to absentee voting, I highly doubt it, but it could happen obviously. But requiring an ID to vote isn't going to have any effect on absentee votes unless we change absentee votes to something where the system goes to you.