Why income inequality is America’s biggest (and most difficult) problem

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Sunday, Oct 26, 2014 06:58 AM EDT

Why income inequality is America’s biggest (and most difficult) problem

It's time to take take America's wealthiest down a peg — but how?

Sean McElwee


Bold prediction: Rising inequality of income and wealth will be the most important political battleground over the next few decades.

Just take a look at the figures. The share of income accruing to the top 1 percent increased from 9 percent in 1976 to 20 percent in 2011. The richest 0.1 percent controlled 7 percent of the wealth in 1979 and 22 percent of the wealth in 2012. Meanwhile, there are a number of studies out there showing that the most effective way to reduce this inequality would be higher taxes on income and wealth, but the rich won’t let it happen.

Consider also this: The rise of income inequality and wealth inequality are intimately connected, and causes all sorts of problem over the long term. As Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman write,

Income inequality has a snowballing effect on the wealth distribution: top incomes are being saved at high rates, pushing wealth concentration up; in turn, rising wealth inequality leads to rising capital income concentration,which contributes to further increasing top income and wealth shares.

That is, income is a flow, which quickly becomes a stock. The rich make enough money to save; in contrast middle-class and low-income workers don’t have enough money to live, so they are increasingly burdened by debt. They can’t build up wealth, which means they are deprived of opportunity. This creates a self-perpetuating cycle of wealth on the top and debt on the bottom.

In a comedy bit on wealth, Chris Rock claims, “You can’t get rid of wealth.” The empirical research on the question largely supports his assertion. In “The Son Also Rises,” Gregory Clark finds that wealth remains in a family for 10-to-15 generations and notes,

Groups that seem to persist in low or high status, such as the black and the Jewish populations in the United States, are not exceptions to a general rule of higher intergenerational mobility. They are experiencing the same universal rates of slow intergenerational mobility as the rest of the population.

But, of course wealth and income inequality weren’t always as bad as they are today. What happened? In a word: cheating. Although many people try to explain rising inequality away by arguing we live in a winner-take-all economy or that inequality is the result of skill-biased technological change, these arguments are bunk. Inequality has been driven by public policy choices that favored the rich, the decline of unions and the rise of finance. As the chart below shows, tax rates on both income and inheritance were high during the relatively equal ’60s, ’70s and ’80s and then fell dramatically paving the way for the inequality we see today (Chart Source).

[chart showing top income tax rates, 1900-2013]

[chart showing top inheritance tax rates, 1900-2013]

The best way to reduce inequality would be to tax income and wealth. While conservatives often claim that this would reduce economic growth, such claims have very little economic support. For instance, Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez and Stefanie Stantcheva find no correlation between economic growth and tax cuts. Because of this, they find, “the top tax rate could potentially be set as high as 83%.” (Chart Source)

[chart showing GDP-per-capita growth rates and top marginal tax rates since the 1970s, by country]

Nobel Prize-winner Peter Diamond argues that the top marginal tax rate could safely breach 73 percent, and indeed, such a rate might even be “optimal.” Another recent study finds the top marginal tax rate could be as high as 90 percent. Republicans sometimes claim that inequality is necessary for economic growth; in fact, the evidence suggests rather the opposite is true: High levels of inequality imperil growth.

But, here’s the problem: The same political forces that allowed the 1 percent to take our political system hostage have only worsened in the past decade. As Nick Hanauer notes in a recent Intelligence Squared debate,

At the same time, the percent of — of labor — the percent of GDP devoted to labor has gone from 52 to 42. So that difference is about a trillion dollars annually. So that — here’s the thing you have to understand. That trillion dollars isn’t profit because it needs to be or should be or has to be. It’s profit because powerful people like me and [Edward Conrad] prefer it to be. That trillion dollars could very easily be spent on wages. Or — or on discounts for consumers. This isn’t a consequence of some magical law of economics. This is a consequence of differentials in power.

Nick hits on a very important point: The rising concentration of economic power has coincided with a concentration of political power. A recent paper by Adam Bonica and others illustrates that as inequality has increased, the rich have spent more money on the political system:

[chart showing concentration of income and campaign contributions in the top 0.01 percent of households and voting-age population, over time, 1980-2012]

As Benjamin Page, Larry Bartels and Jason Seawright recently found that the wealthy tend to be more economically conservative than the population at large. But a particularly startling finding is that, “on economic issues wealthy Democratic respondents tended to be more conservative than Democrats in the general population.” The wealthy are using the political system to turn their income into wealth and then that wealth into more wealth. They’re going to keep doing it, unless we stop them. One solution is to reduce the massive turnout gap between the rich and poor.

[bar graph showing voter turnout by household income, 2008-2012]

Studies show that states with more low-income turnout have higher minimum wages, more generous child health insurance programs and stricter anti-predatory lending policies. They also have more generous welfare benefits. The fight against inequality will be a long one, but the first step is turning out to vote — the most radical step one can take in our country is actually believing democracy is more than just an idea.
 
The joke is that some people think voting for Democrats is the answer to this problem.
 
The joke is that some people think voting for Democrats is the answer to this problem.

It's the best answer available at the moment. Like choosing syphilis over AIDS -- nasty choice, but a no-brainer regardless.
 
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It's the best answer available at the moment. Like choosing syphilis over AIDS.

Voting to get syphilis instead of AIDS is not the answer. If there is to be a peaceful change, it will have to come via a third party. Unfortunately, too many reject that idea automatically for it to become reality, unless I miss my guess.
 
Voting to get syphilis instead of AIDS is not the answer. If there is to be a peaceful change, it will have to come via a third party. Unfortunately, too many reject that idea automatically for it to become reality, unless I miss my guess.

Not in our lifetimes, bro.
 
Not in our lifetimes, bro.

Probably not in the lifetimes of our children, either. For some fucking reason 98% of the people in the US keep voting D or R, like robots, election after election. It never changes. Eventually, something is going to have to change, however. One way or another.
 
Voting to get syphilis instead of AIDS is not the answer. If there is to be a peaceful change, it will have to come via a third party. Unfortunately, too many reject that idea automatically for it to become reality, unless I miss my guess.

That is because the mechanics of our electoral system -- not anything easily fixable like ballot-access laws, but the basic structure of single-member-district representation -- tend naturally to squeeze out third parties and produce a two-party system. Were it not so, our best bet (at least WRT the inequality problem) would probably be the Working Families Party.
 
I'm sorry those are the only two options you get, which one would you choose? AIDS or syphilis?

You don't have to vote for either one. One of them will happen, almost certainly, because of the votes of fools, but you don't have to be one of them.
 

Yes, and the two major parties are responsible for creating and maintaining the situation. You get to choose from column A or column B. Lucky you.
 
You don't have to vote for either one. One of them will happen, almost certainly, because of the votes of fools, but you don't have to be one of them.

Why do you think I no longer vote along with the majority of American citizens?

It's a waste of fucking time not even worth getting off my ass and interrupting my precious interneting. ;)

So vote for Syphilis or AIDS......because those are your only two choices. Or just stay home and play vidya games and give them the finger.

Which would you choose if you had to? :confused:
 
Why do you think I no longer vote along with the majority of American citizens?

It's a waste of fucking time not even worth getting off my ass and interrupting my precious interneting. ;)

So vote for Syphilis or AIDS......because those are your only two choices. Or just stay home and play vidya games and give them the finger.

Which would you choose if you had to? :confused:

Fortunately, I'm not in the situation of having to choose one over the other, so I choose neither.
 
In 1776 98% of Americans were farmers, today 2% are farmers. Today there are more trees in America than there were in 1776. Needs change. John D. Rockefeller destroyed the American whale oil industry with kerosene. Whale oil cost 95 cents a gallon, kerosene cost a nickel a gallon. Then Edisons light bulbs killed the kerosene industry.

Income inequality is how the market persuades workers to move from being farriers to auto mechanics.

RULE OF THUMB: When a new technology is an infant, learn it. When a public school starts offering diplomas in the new technology its doomed.
 
In 1776 98% of Americans were farmers, today 2% are farmers. Today there are more trees in America than there were in 1776. Needs change. John D. Rockefeller destroyed the American whale oil industry with kerosene. Whale oil cost 95 cents a gallon, kerosene cost a nickel a gallon. Then Edisons light bulbs killed the kerosene industry.

Income inequality is how the market persuades workers to move from being farriers to auto mechanics.

RULE OF THUMB: When a new technology is an infant, learn it. When a public school starts offering diplomas in the new technology its doomed.

What's that got to do with this?
 
simple, kindofAssTards kind don't want to work .... these assholes expect everything to be free
 
In 1776 98% of Americans were farmers, today 2% are farmers. Today there are more trees in America than there were in 1776. Needs change. John D. Rockefeller destroyed the American whale oil industry with kerosene. Whale oil cost 95 cents a gallon, kerosene cost a nickel a gallon. Then Edisons light bulbs killed the kerosene industry.

Income inequality is how the market persuades workers to move from being farriers to auto mechanics.

RULE OF THUMB: When a new technology is an infant, learn it. When a public school starts offering diplomas in the new technology its doomed.


kingofAssTards doesn't want to hear the truth or logic ...
 
Fortunately, I'm not in the situation of having to choose one over the other, so I choose neither.

If you had to which one would you choose? (D) syphilis? OR (R)...AIDS?

RULE OF THUMB: When a new technology is an infant, learn it. When a public school starts offering diplomas in the new technology its doomed.

EDUCATION BAD!!!!
 
Why do you think I no longer vote along with the majority of American citizens?

It's a waste of fucking time not even worth getting off my ass and interrupting my precious interneting. ;)

So vote for Syphilis or AIDS......because those are your only two choices. Or just stay home and play vidya games and give them the finger.

Which would you choose if you had to? :confused:

I will stay home and give them the finger.
That is the best choice than I have seen in years.
 
LIBZ n DUMZ n PROGZ-It's time to take take America's wealthiest down a peg

REPOZ-Give em all a chance to COME UP
 
Fallacy of false cause.

Government interventionism cause economic inequality because government interventions introduce political desires and thus inefficiencies into the economy. Foe example, when the government recently tried to use macroeconomic measure to stimulate microeconomic activity, it did no one any good not at the top of the pyramid.

The other fallacy employed in the core belief of the Socialist/Academic opinion class that the top and bottom ends of the wealth spectrum are static classes. They are not. People are always moving on and out of them.

The true inequality falls upon the Middle Class who must finance the macroeconomic adventures of the ivory-tower thinkers intended to help them in an ancillary fashion by empowering the lower classes to 'spend' more because more money is being introduced into the marketplace. The problem, the fallacy employed here, is that money is the same as Capital investment.

You cannot change the economic dynamic by revenge moves upon the wealthy.

They had political friends who protect them.
 
Why do you think I no longer vote along with the majority of American citizens?

It's a waste of fucking time not even worth getting off my ass and interrupting my precious interneting. ;)

So vote for Syphilis or AIDS......because those are your only two choices. Or just stay home and play vidya games and give them the finger.

Which would you choose if you had to? :confused:

Please, please, please oh God, oh Allah, oh Buddha let this be true.
 
Please, please, please oh God, oh Allah, oh Buddha let this be true.

It is true...not that it changes anything for you, (D) still owns this zip code, and this zip code has more votes and money than anything you and the GOP cheer squad have. ;)
 
It's easy! Trash the Constitution, flush traditional America down the drain, forbid individual freedom, dump free enterprise and bring on Communism.

Ship those who disagree out into the Great Plains to be judged whether they can be re-educated, terminated as unfit, or forcibly employed in the construction of the "New Tomorrow."

Then we will have a privileged social elite, a government class, who will direct the massive omnipresent police state required to bring it all about. They will then manage it in such a fashion that will absolutely guarantee their privilege will never be threatened.

Mindless pseudo functionaries like KO, who work so hard nodding their heads at totalitarianism, breathlessly supporting the demise of their own freedom, will be among the first walked over to the big ditch and given a 20 cent ticket into infamy.

Says the guy who cheers shitting on 10A and trumpeting federal supremacy over the will of the people.......LOL what a fucking twat you are vettey.
 
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