Ebola now confirmed in NYC

[Ishmael]

Because you claim that it cannot be contained at the source.

Nigeria did it. Nigeria is now ebola free.

Now we have another case.

The "doctor" was symptomatic and took a ride on the subway to go bowling with his friends. If a DOCTOR will not do everything to keep us safe, the GOVERNMENT has to step in and do it. That's not hysteria, it's common fucking sense. Like when the Canadian PM says, "terrorism" and our President says, "Don't be hasty, we don't really know what motivated this, we cannot offend Islam..."

That speaks directly to the messaging problem I spoke of earlier. Our government, and most especially this administration, when dealing with bad events/situations have shown a tendency to deny the problem or to spin the problem in such a way so as to minimize the potential threat. Both Bush's did it, Clinton did it, and Obama is the worst of all. Reagan is the last president to speak to the American people like adults, all the rest have treated us like children. Is it any wonder that the citizens opinion of government credibility is in the toilet?

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Gee, Pete.

I'm insulting your education?

You insult me every day, at every opportunity, and often with your first post.

If you want to disprove your lack of education (and clearly class) then articulate your stance with some sort of structure and logic instead of running to your favorite whipping boy "Big Business."

Exactly how do you expect them to make gazillions of dollars off of ebola? I'd love to hear the explanation of that one since if they charged the patient the cost of development, no one in the third world where it is endemic would be able to afford it. Shouldn't your university be finding a cure?

 

[Saint Peter]

Gee, Pete.

I'm insulting your education?

You insult me every day, at every opportunity, and often with your first post.

If you want to disprove your lack of education (and clearly class) then articulate your stance with some sort of structure and logic instead of running to your favorite whipping boy "Big Business."

Exactly how do you expect them to make gazillions of dollars off of ebola? I'd love to hear the explanation of that one since if they charged the patient the cost of development, no one in the third world where it is endemic would be able to afford it. Shouldn't your university be finding a cure?

I am sorry about insulting you every day.



You do not see how discovering cure for this disease would make you a filthy rich? I am the one lacking education (and class)?

Get real.

 

[about_average]

The US does not have a stock of this stuff which is why they are doing the five-hospital Kabuki for public consumption so that liberals can claim safety through government....

Which liberals have appointed a doctor to head a government task force to educate people on how to deal with Ebola who says, "Water kills the Ebola virus"? You know, so we'll be safe.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That speaks directly to the messaging problem I spoke of earlier. Our government, and most especially this administration, when dealing with bad events/situations have shown a tendency to deny the problem or to spin the problem in such a way so as to minimize the potential threat. Both Bush's did it, Clinton did it, and Obama is the worst of all. Reagan is the last president to speak to the American people like adults, all the rest have treated us like children. Is it any wonder that the citizens opinion of government credibility is in the toilet?

Ishmael

He wants open borders. He wants South America here. He wants Haiti here. He wants East Africa here. He wants the voters, he wants the 'investments' in diversity, he wants the demonstrable need for government services. Their baggage can easily by skycapped by such a rich and populous nation. If he cannot get our wealth to them, he can sure as hell get them to come to us to enjoy the benefits of their birthright as a global community.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I am sorry about insulting you every day.



You do not see how discovering cure for this disease would make you a filthy rich? I am the one lacking education (and class)?

Get real.

No. It will not make you filthy rich. There is no volume in the business, therefore the investment will never be recouped. What you seem to "feel" is that a private company should be willing to put itself into bankruptcy in order to do good works. No, that is the purview of the college system. Harvard has a medical school and BILLIONS in stored alumni endowment cash. Perhaps their currently most famous alumni could shame them into doing the third world a favor.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Which liberals have appointed a doctor to head a government task force to educate people on how to deal with Ebola who says, "Water kills the Ebola virus"? You know, so we'll be safe.

I am having trouble making sense of this or even putting it into any context of the framework of this discussion.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate...

 

[about_average]

I am having trouble making sense of this or even putting it into any context of the framework of this discussion.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate...

Your "5 hospital kabuki" comment appears to imply liberals have somehow cornered the market when it comes to Ebola idiocy.

 

[Ishmael]

He wants open borders. He wants South America here. He wants Haiti here. He wants East Africa here. He wants the voters, he wants the 'investments' in diversity, he wants the demonstrable need for government services. Their baggage can easily by skycapped by such a rich and populous nation. If he cannot get our wealth to them, he can sure as hell get them to come to us to enjoy the benefits of their birthright as a global community.

All of which is contrary to the will of the people and in complete disregard of the fact that our citizens that are currently in distress will suffer first and suffer the most from those policies. He is willfully placing party politics before the best interests of the nation or its citizens.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Your "5 hospital kabuki" comment appears to imply liberals have somehow cornered the market when it comes to Ebola idiocy.

That's the Administration and the CDC. Liberals are not speaking out against it because they are true champions of big government which comforts and consoles them even when it tells them you can keep your doctor and your insurance and your rates will go down, or it was a movie, or it was not Jihad, it was workplace violence or "I found out about it when you found out about it in the morning news."

I do not think that the primary motivation on the part of the Administration (and hence the politicized CDC) is keeping us safe, but trying to instead keep us believing the oft-repeated mantra that you cannot close the borders, it is silly to try, whenever they get here, we have the social safety net in place to keep everyone, including them, safe, well and prosperous. Eventually they will run out of enough of our resources to make this truistic attitude even vaguely true.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

All of which is contrary to the will of the people and in complete disregard of the fact that our citizens that are currently in distress will suffer first and suffer the most from those policies. He is willfully placing party politics before the best interests of the nation or its citizens.

Ishmael

He might lose the battle (an election or two) now, but in the long-run, he believes the war has already been won. He (as the logical conclusion of the Liberal movement) owns the Educational-Industrial Complex, The Fourth Estate and our entertainment community. He knows the future is being educated to Socialism, given the positive news of Socialism and absorbing the culture of Socialism through pulp fiction, sitcom, play and movie. He can burn bridges because in the future, he intends no interaction with the vanquished. They are to shut up and go gently into that good night.

"That's nice Eric, but we won."



Where's Eric now?

 

[Busybody]

And Detroit. And Chicago. And Atlanta.

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[Busybody]

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St Prick

 

[Busybody]

it is astonishing.....NOT!................to the lengths that seemingly sane people will descend to......to protect the Obala n Co regime......

You have someone like SIGH, who at one time was semi lucid......now shriek....REPOH/WINGNUT hysteria etc......about an issue that all KNOW has been mismanaged from day 1.......even the DEEZ running for re-election have said so


What is it about Obola n Co that has driven so many outa their minds?

YES! Color!

Never again, should a person of COLOR or CUNT be elected....nothing will get done and all attempts at getting things done will be met with

RACIST/SEXIST chants

 

[about_average]

That's the Administration and the CDC. Liberals are not speaking out against it because they are true champions of big government which comforts and consoles them even when it tells them you can keep your doctor and your insurance and your rates will go down, or it was a movie, or it was not Jihad, it was workplace violence or "I found out about it when you found out about it in the morning news."

I do not think that the primary motivation on the part of the Administration (and hence the politicized CDC) is keeping us safe, but trying to instead keep us believing the oft-repeated mantra that you cannot close the borders, it is silly to try, whenever they get here, we have the social safety net in place to keep everyone, including them, safe, well and prosperous. Eventually they will run out of enough of our resources to make this truistic attitude even vaguely true.

And yet, it's a conservative who thinks water kills Ebola and appoints a doctor who told him that to "educate" people about Ebola.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I am having trouble making sense of this or even putting it into any context of the framework of this discussion.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate...

Here ya go, buddy: Lies Conservatives and Libertarians Say About Ebola

Yes, "Doctor" Rand Paul is in there.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And yet, it's a conservative who thinks water kills Ebola and appoints a doctor who told him that to "educate" people about Ebola.

You are going to have to go with something more than "a conservative."

If you have a name, provide some sort of background information.

Let's hope that is is not some example from 20-50 years ago...

 

[Busybody]

You are going to have to go with something more than "a conservative."

If you have a name, provide some sort of background information.

Let's hope that is is not some example from 20-50 years ago...

or the Crusades

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Charles Krauthammer this morning at NRO:

The president is upset. Very upset. Frustrated and angry. Seething about the government’s handling of Ebola, said the front-page headline in the New York Times last Saturday.

There’s only one problem with this pose, so obligingly transcribed for him by the Times. It’s his government. He’s president. Has been for almost six years. Yet Barack Obama reflexively insists on playing the shocked outsider when something goes wrong within his own administration.

IRS? “It’s inexcusable, and Americans are right to be angry about it, and I am angry about it,” he thundered in May 2013, when the story broke of the agency’s targeting of conservative groups. “I will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the IRS.”

Except that within nine months, Obama had grown far more tolerant, retroactively declaring this to be a phony scandal without “a smidgen of corruption.”

Obamacare rollout? “Nobody is more frustrated by that than I am,” said an aggrieved Obama about the botching of the central element of his signature legislative achievement. “Nobody is madder than me.”

Veterans Affairs scandal? Presidential chief of staff Denis McDonough explained: “Secretary [Eric] Shinseki said yesterday . . . that he’s mad as hell and the president is madder than hell.” A nice touch — taking anger to the next level.

The president himself declared: “I will not stand for it.” But since the administration itself said the problem was longstanding, indeed predating Obama, this means he had stood for it for five and a half years.

...

These shows of calculated outrage — and thus distance — are becoming not just unconvincing but unamusing. In our system, the president is both head of state and head of government. Obama seems to enjoy the monarchical parts, but when it comes to the actual business of running government, he shows little interest and even less aptitude.

His principal job, after all, is to administer the government and to get the right people to do it. (That’s why we typically send governors rather than senators to the White House.) That’s called management. Obama had never managed anything before running for the biggest management job on earth. It shows.

What makes the problem even more acute is that Obama represents not just the party of government but a grandiose conception of government as the prime mover of social and economic life. The very theme of his presidency is that government can and should be trusted to do great things, and therefore society should be prepared to hand over large chunks of its operations — from health care (one sixth of the economy) to carbon regulation down to free contraception — to the central administrative state.

But this presupposes a Leviathan not just benign but competent. When it then turns out that vast, faceless bureaucracies tend to be incapable, inadequate, hopelessly inefficient, and often corrupt, Obama resorts to expressions of angry surprise.

He must. He’s not simply protecting his own political fortunes. He’s trying to protect faith in the entitlement state by portraying its repeated failures as shocking anomalies.

Unfortunately, the pretense has the opposite effect. It produces not reassurance but anxiety. Obama’s determined detachment conveys the feeling that nobody’s home. No one’s leading. Not even from behind.

...

 

[Busybody]

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[miles]

Not to worry, Obama has said it can't happen here.

Obamalie #1,344.

The man just can't help himself.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I gave up the booze years ago.

Sub human. Sub-human. Subhuman. These are important details when weaseling your way around on the internet!

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[Adre]

Charles Krauthammer this morning at NRO:

What Krauthammer and anyone with just average intelligence knows, but is not saying because it upends his narrative, is that the President does not run the government. Never has.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What Krauthammer and anyone with just average intelligence knows, but is not saying because it upends his narrative, is that the President does not run the government. Never has.

Like Michael Brown, just an innocent bystander...



I kinda feel bad for Obama now. I feel even worse for Bush... All the blame you guys still give him, and

HE WASN'T EVEN IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING!!!​

 

[Ishmael]

What Krauthammer and anyone with just average intelligence knows, but is not saying because it upends his narrative, is that the President does not run the government. Never has.

Then who does?

Ishmael