Ebola now confirmed in NYC

[sigh]

Depending on which estimates you choose to accept, somewhere around 5000 people (likely more since there are no doubt unreported cases) have died worldwide in the 2014 Ebola outbreak (of which, exactly one has died in the US). Meanwhile, something like 17.5 million people die worldwide from heart disease (mostly preventable) every year. Diabetes and COPD, also largely preventable diseases, account for many millions more. In fact, in developed countries, non-communicable diseases account for 87% of all deaths, and even worldwide the number is around 70%. If everyone who's currently too scared to go outside would get off their asses and do something (and eat properly), we could save far more lives than could possibly be saved by shutting down air travel from Africa. We really need to start putting this into perspective, folks. When Michelle Obama tried to improve school lunches in order to address the real epidemics of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke and lung disease, she was roundly criticized for government interference. But now those same folks who point fingers at her and tell her to butt out (yet another thread regarding this just slipped off the front page) are simultaneously wringing their hands and complaining that Obama's response to Ebola is woefully inadequate. Because, you know, that one person died in Texas.

The hysterical response to Ebola is a political event, fueled by conservatives (and fanned by the MSM) who, oddly enough, are calling for more government interference and restrictions of freedoms in order to meet this "crisis". Clearly, conservative ideals take a back seat when Republican votes are on the line. We don't need the government to protect us, Ish. Our medical system has proven itself up to the task with an astonishing 80% recovery rate to date (admittedly small sample size), and with virtually no runaway spread (as predicted by the pundits of the blog world) despite those scary freedoms that our people enjoy.

And what should we do with people like this doctor? He was part of a humanitarian effort that officials say must be accelerated if we don't want to see a truly huge epidemic explode across western Africa. If we restrict his movements and don't allow him to come home after he risked his life to help, how many others like him will choose not to go? In regards to Ebola, that's the best recipe for disaster that we could ever hope to devise.

 

[TwinkleStars]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4250159/scared-o.gif​

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

Depending on which estimates you choose to accept, somewhere around 5000 people (likely more since there are no doubt unreported cases) have died worldwide in the 2014 Ebola outbreak (of which, exactly one has died in the US). Meanwhile, something like 17.5 million people die worldwide from heart disease (mostly preventable) every year. Diabetes and COPD, also largely preventable diseases, account for many millions more. In fact, in developed countries, non-communicable diseases account for 87% of all deaths, and even worldwide the number is around 70%. If everyone who's currently too scared to go outside would get off their asses and do something (and eat properly), we could save far more lives than could possibly be saved by shutting down air travel from Africa. We really need to start putting this into perspective, folks. When Michelle Obama tried to improve school lunches in order to address the real epidemics of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke and lung disease, she was roundly criticized for government interference. But now those same folks who point fingers at her and tell her to butt out (yet another thread regarding this just slipped off the front page) are simultaneously wringing their hands and complaining that Obama's response to Ebola is woefully inadequate. Because, you know, that one person died in Texas.

The hysterical response to Ebola is a political event, fueled by conservatives (and fanned by the MSM) who, oddly enough, are calling for more government interference and restrictions of freedoms in order to meet this "crisis". Clearly, conservative ideals take a back seat when Republican votes are on the line. We don't need the government to protect us, Ish. Our medical system has proven itself up to the task with an astonishing 80% recovery rate to date (admittedly small sample size), and with virtually no runaway spread (as predicted by the pundits of the blog world) despite those scary freedoms that our people enjoy.

And what should we do with people like this doctor? He was part of a humanitarian effort that officials say must be accelerated if we don't want to see a truly huge epidemic explode across western Africa. If we restrict his movements and don't allow him to come home after he risked his life to help, how many others like him will choose not to go? In regards to Ebola, that's the best recipe for disaster that we could ever hope to devise.

where are the Chicken Littles every flu season when far more people die, and there's more of an impact on our health and economic system bro?

Stew

 

[TwinkleStars]

I'll worry when Dustin Hoffman shows up at my door.

http://www.avidly.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dustin-hoffman-in-outbreak.jpg

 

[Que]

I'll worry when Dustin Hoffman shows up at my door.

Dustin Hoffman shows up at my door I am taking him over to the Res for a little Blackjack.

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes33/RainMan13.jpg

 

[cowslinger64]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/74aa7e314cec3f7cb74954d3aa26df2c/tumblr_ndsgwgeIMD1ruqqm0o1_400.jpg

 

[Mike_Yates]

If you were exposed to Ebola victims in a strange African country and you came home to the states, what is the first thing you would do?

Go bowling!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Depending on which estimates you choose to accept, somewhere around 5000 people (likely more since there are no doubt unreported cases) have died worldwide in the 2014 Ebola outbreak (of which, exactly one has died in the US). Meanwhile, something like 17.5 million people die worldwide from heart disease (mostly preventable) every year. Diabetes and COPD, also largely preventable diseases, account for many millions more. In fact, in developed countries, non-communicable diseases account for 87% of all deaths, and even worldwide the number is around 70%. If everyone who's currently too scared to go outside would get off their asses and do something (and eat properly), we could save far more lives than could possibly be saved by shutting down air travel from Africa. We really need to start putting this into perspective, folks. When Michelle Obama tried to improve school lunches in order to address the real epidemics of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke and lung disease, she was roundly criticized for government interference. But now those same folks who point fingers at her and tell her to butt out (yet another thread regarding this just slipped off the front page) are simultaneously wringing their hands and complaining that Obama's response to Ebola is woefully inadequate. Because, you know, that one person died in Texas.

The hysterical response to Ebola is a political event, fueled by conservatives (and fanned by the MSM) who, oddly enough, are calling for more government interference and restrictions of freedoms in order to meet this "crisis". Clearly, conservative ideals take a back seat when Republican votes are on the line. We don't need the government to protect us, Ish. Our medical system has proven itself up to the task with an astonishing 80% recovery rate to date (admittedly small sample size), and with virtually no runaway spread (as predicted by the pundits of the blog world) despite those scary freedoms that our people enjoy.

And what should we do with people like this doctor? He was part of a humanitarian effort that officials say must be accelerated if we don't want to see a truly huge epidemic explode across western Africa. If we restrict his movements and don't allow him to come home after he risked his life to help, how many others like him will choose not to go? In regards to Ebola, that's the best recipe for disaster that we could ever hope to devise.

Flu doesn't cost a million a pop to treat and bury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntU46kTlfzA
dedicated to SIGH

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Oh, now you're looking for government help.

No. We're not looking for a microeconomic handout for this group, that group, some of your green buddies, some of your union buddies, some of your corporate buddies, maybe big Ag and ethanol, I could go on, but that is not what we are asking our Federal Republic government to do.

We're asking them to do their actual Constitutional job of defending the country from enemies external, and an epidemic falls into that purview.

Several people here seem to think that they are quite clever because they've found "hypocrisy" when all they've actually founder is their low-information bona-fides.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Fair and open-minded sigh knows who to blame it on:

"The hysterical response to Ebola is a political event, fueled by conservatives (and fanned by the MSM) who, oddly enough, are calling for more government interference and restrictions of freedoms in order to meet this "crisis". Clearly, conservative ideals take a back seat when Republican votes are on the line. We don't need the government to protect us, Ish. Our medical system has proven itself up to the task with an astonishing 80% recovery rate to date (admittedly small sample size), and with virtually no runaway spread (as predicted by the pundits of the blog world) despite those scary freedoms that our people enjoy."

I love it. We don't need the government to protect us. We want to restrict freedom. Who's freedom? People from another country. The issue is bigger than ebola though. It's also ev-d68. It's also three new strains of mosquito that have managed to get imported into the US and do carry some of the nastiest things possible, many being carried in from South and Central America where they know we have an open border policy because we are about freedom, inclusiveness, multiculturalism and unlimited cheap labor and votes for the handout state, along with a new host of hands out.

It's about a medical system that was overwhelmed by just a few ebola cases, a medical system that was slow to even recognize the spread of ev-d68 and a medical system that is clearly going to be overwhelmed if we have some sort of pandemic because they do not have the supplies and resources on hand to respond to it, especially at a time when their payouts for services, procedures, and supplies are being sharply reduced along with staffing hours and wages.

 

[Ishmael]

No. We're not looking for a microeconomic handout for this group, that group, some of your green buddies, some of your union buddies, some of your corporate buddies, maybe big Ag and ethanol, I could go on, but that is not what we are asking our Federal Republic government to do.

We're asking them to do their actual Constitutional job of defending the country from enemies external, and an epidemic falls into that purview.

Several people here seem to think that they are quite clever because they've found "hypocrisy" when all they've actually founder is their low-information bona-fides.

Are you surprised? I'm not.

And I'm not all that concerned about Ebola reaching epidemic proportions in the US either. The real issue is an issue that the administration has brought on itself with its confused, and often contradictory messaging, on the subject.

And their total lack of response to other infectious diseases that have entered the country recently as a result of lack of diligence that has infected and killed far more Americans than Ebola.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I wonder what happens when people start flying from the US into these areas to help in the name of The Red Crescent...



There are some other, very sinister implications for those who can pass through our system before becoming symptomatic.

 

[Saint Peter]

Government health care?

Your boy Ted Cruz gave us Green Eggs and Ham over that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Are you surprised? I'm not.

And I'm not all that concerned about Ebola reaching epidemic proportions in the US either. The real issue is an issue that the administration has brought on itself with its confused, and often contradictory messaging, on the subject.

And their total lack of response to other infectious diseases that have entered the country recently as a result of lack of diligence that has infected and killed far more Americans than Ebola.

Ishmael

Next post



Then the next...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Government health care?

Your boy Ted Cruz gave us Green Eggs and Ham over that.

It is still not too late to prove your low-information bona-fides.

Have at it.

 

[Busybody]

So not worried about this...

No, CupCake, don't be, just go to GOTH CLUBS and get your ass FUCKED and all is OK

and

PLEASE DONT VOTE

we have enough REE TARDS doing that already

Don't worry, be happy

 

[Saint Peter]

Obama learned how to handle epidemics from you daddy Ronnie RayGun!

 

[Busybody]

Depending on which estimates you choose to accept, somewhere around 5000 people (likely more since there are no doubt unreported cases) have died worldwide in the 2014 Ebola outbreak (of which, exactly one has died in the US). Meanwhile, something like 17.5 million people die worldwide from heart disease (mostly preventable) every year. Diabetes and COPD, also largely preventable diseases, account for many millions more. In fact, in developed countries, non-communicable diseases account for 87% of all deaths, and even worldwide the number is around 70%. If everyone who's currently too scared to go outside would get off their asses and do something (and eat properly), we could save far more lives than could possibly be saved by shutting down air travel from Africa. We really need to start putting this into perspective, folks. When Michelle Obama tried to improve school lunches in order to address the real epidemics of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke and lung disease, she was roundly criticized for government interference. But now those same folks who point fingers at her and tell her to butt out (yet another thread regarding this just slipped off the front page) are simultaneously wringing their hands and complaining that Obama's response to Ebola is woefully inadequate. Because, you know, that one person died in Texas.

The hysterical response to Ebola is a political event, fueled by conservatives (and fanned by the MSM) who, oddly enough, are calling for more government interference and restrictions of freedoms in order to meet this "crisis". Clearly, conservative ideals take a back seat when Republican votes are on the line. We don't need the government to protect us, Ish. Our medical system has proven itself up to the task with an astonishing 80% recovery rate to date (admittedly small sample size), and with virtually no runaway spread (as predicted by the pundits of the blog world) despite those scary freedoms that our people enjoy.

And what should we do with people like this doctor? He was part of a humanitarian effort that officials say must be accelerated if we don't want to see a truly huge epidemic explode across western Africa. If we restrict his movements and don't allow him to come home after he risked his life to help, how many others like him will choose not to go? In regards to Ebola, that's the best recipe for disaster that we could ever hope to devise.

stfu, lunatic

 

[Ishmael]

I wonder what happens when people start flying from the US into these areas to help in the name of The Red Crescent...



There are some other, very sinister implications for those who can pass through our system before becoming symptomatic.

There is always that and it wouldn't take that many.

It's a corollary to "Igor's goat." Not everyone that becomes symptomatic is going to act in their own self-interest and report to a hospital. They may decide to 'share' out of ignorance, petty vindictiveness, or out and out malicious intent.

Ishmael

 

[Saint Peter]

There is always that and it wouldn't take that many.

It's a corollary to "Igor's goat." Not everyone that becomes symptomatic is going to act in their own self-interest and report to a hospital. They may decide to 'share' out of ignorance, petty vindictiveness, or out and out malicious intent.

Ishmael

Truth.

Hopefully big medical corporations are finding medical answers on the other side of infection. Containing the virus is not going to happen.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Obama learned how to handle epidemics from you daddy Ronnie RayGun!

That is a sentence that Jenn would type.

Late night drunk?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There is always that and it wouldn't take that many.

It's a corollary to "Igor's goat." Not everyone that becomes symptomatic is going to act in their own self-interest and report to a hospital. They may decide to 'share' out of ignorance, petty vindictiveness, or out and out malicious intent.

Ishmael

Indeed. Of course, if the libs panic, they will go straight to a police-state mentality.



In 15 years at Lit, nothing much has changed:

A_J's corollary #6, “The New Age Liberal thinks, ‘When I do/say it, it is right because of my open-minded education and intelligence. When you do/say it, it serves to demonstrate how narrow-minded, poorly educated and stupid you are.’”

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Truth.

Hopefully big medical corporations are finding medical answers on the other side of infection. Containing the virus is not going to happen.

Closing the border is impossible. Hell we can't even keep them off the White House lawn. Are you crazy? Ebola is going to come.

But look you wingnuts, we have five airports and five hospitals where we will find and contain the virus.

 

[Saint Peter]

That is a sentence that Jenn would type.

Late night drunk?

I gave up the booze years ago.

Sub human. Sub-human. Subhuman. These are important details when weaseling your way around on the internet!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I gave up the booze years ago.

Sub human. Sub-human. Subhuman. These are important details when weaseling your way around on the internet!

Except that in all of the forms you have listed, I never typed a single instance of it.

It was your team that decided they would take and put that word into my 'mouth.'

Because that's how you guys play; not with ideas and thoughts, but with serious charges and bumper-sticker slogans, and I think, at this point, you're up to about four of the latter and two of the former.

In the meantime, maybe you can try to articulate a rational thought just to prove that for once, you can actually do it.