Republicans: Are you uncomfortable with your party's early history?

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I'm reading To Make Men Free: A History of the Republican Party, by Heather Cox Richardson. Fascinating.

The early Republicans led a war to save the Union from secessionists. Today, it seems only Republicans ever talk about pulling their states out of the Union.

The early Republicans assumed Congress has broad powers; it was the Democrats of the day who insisted Congress can do nothing not expressly enumerated in the Constitution. Today, only Republicans take that latter position.

The early Republicans were dedicated to racial equality and used government power to try to impose it on the South during Reconstruction. Today, it is only Republicans who want to roll back the federal civil-rights legislation of the 1960s.

The early Republicans greatly expanded the size and power of the federal government, and not only for war-effort purposes. They enacted a homestead act to plant settlers on Western land, rather than selling the land to rich speculators. They enacted an income tax to increase the budget and spread the burden. They assumed Congressional power to create a corporation (something only state governments had done until then) to build a transcontinental railroad. Today the GOP has a significant faction that wants to make the federal government small enough to drown in a bathtub.

The early Republicans created a national currency to supplant money issued by state-chartered banks. Today's GOP has a faction that screams "End the Fed!"

The early Republicans wanted and enacted a high protective tariff to encourage the development of American industry. Today's Republicans are free-traders.

The early Republicans were dedicated to Lincoln's theory of political economy, that an activist government should create economic opportunity for all through internal improvements, land distribution, tariffs, etc. Today's Republicans are economically laissez-faire.

By today's standards, the early Republicans were practically socialists. In fact, Marx himself ran a column in Republican Horace Greeley's New York Tribune, and Lincoln appointed Marxists to high civil and military offices (you can read the story in The "S" Word: A Short History of an American Tradition . . . Socialism, by John Nichols).

This is how the Republican agenda was viewed by their opponents when they got started: Negro equality, vegetarianism, free love, women's suffrage, redistribution of wealth, and . . . popery! :eek:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/1856-Republican-party-Fremont-isms-caricature.jpg

Does any of this bother you Pubs?

(For my part, as a Democrat, I don't mind at all that in the Civil War period the Democrats were the party of elitism, the "slave power," racism and states' rights; we got better. Eventually.)
 
My ancestors used to sail around the world, kill a country's men and rape their women. I'm surprisingly at peace with that.
 
(For my part, as a Democrat, I don't mind at all that in the Civil War period the Democrats were the party of elitism, the "slave power," racism and states' rights; we got better. Eventually.)

And yet the RWCJ on this board keeps bringing up all that shameful history to discredit today's Dems. Sauce for the goose . . .
 
KO, pretty much every one of your sad little "then...and now,..." examples is hilariously wrong.

but hey, great post.
 
Specifically?

let's start with the first one. all republocans talk about is pulling states out of the union?
who's calling for that, exactly?

last time i heard secessionist talk like that, it was by butthurt democrats after bush's win over kerry.
 
let's start with the first one. all republocans talk about is pulling states out of the union?

Not all Republicans, certainly not, but only Republicans -- or those independents still further right of them. I've read stories about secession-talk from red-state pols several times over the past few years.
 
Here's another one: Early Republicans were strongly pro-immigration. (Perceiving a need to put lots of settlers on the Western lands before those lands could add value to the economy and provide tax revenue.)
 
Here's another one: Early Republicans were strongly pro-immigration. (Perceiving a need to put lots of settlers on the Western lands before those lands could add value to the economy and provide tax revenue.)

if your mom and dad get divorced, will your mom still be your aunt?
 
The question should be, are Democrats satisfied with the continuing evolution of racial politics in their party that began with slavery, segregation, and the KKK, right into today's massive fixation on all things race?

Forgetting (Alzheimer's?) once again that during those times the Democratic party were the CONSERVATIVES (See Dixiecrats) that left to join the Republican party as the two realigned in ideology. Just take a look at the "Solid South" former Democratic states now blood red. :cool:
 
You could probably ask the same questions about the democrats. For example, Al Gore's father filibustered against the Civil Rights Act for 16 hours.
 
You could probably ask the same questions about the democrats. For example, Al Gore's father filibustered against the Civil Rights Act for 16 hours.

See the post above yours.

Gore Senior was part of the CONSERVATIVE Democratic Party of Tennessee (Now a Republican controlled State) See how this works?
 
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Nobody should be fan's of their parties early history

we can point at each other all day.. and we would all be right

what matters is what they're doing now
 
When the Republican Party was founded in 1854 the most vocal constituency
in the Party was that of abolitionists, but the most powerful constituency was
that of the business community. Other constituencies have come and gone, but
the business community is still the constituency that determines policy.

During the nineteenth century the most important issue for businessmen, and
especially factory owners, was the tariff. European factories could usually produce
better goods at lower prices, even when the cost of transportation was factored in.
Without tariffs many American factories would go out of business.

On the other hand, the American South produced the best cotton and tobacco
in the world at the best prices. Cotton and tobacco producers did not need tariff
protection. They resented paying tariffs for manufactured goods. They wanted a
federal government that would promote free trade throughout the world.

Many factory owners favored emancipation of the slaves, but they favored it for
economic, rather than humanitarian reasons. If the slaves were freed without
compensation, this would reduce the wealth, and hence the political power of
Southern cotton and tobacco producers who opposed tariffs. Also, many former
slaves would travel north and apply for jobs in factories. This would enable the
factory owners to reduce wages.
 
I'm reading To Make Men Free: A History of the Republican Party, by Heather Cox Richardson. Fascinating.

The early Republicans led a war to save the Union from secessionists. Today, it seems only Republicans ever talk about pulling their states out of the Union.

The early Republicans assumed Congress has broad powers; it was the Democrats of the day who insisted Congress can do nothing not expressly enumerated in the Constitution. Today, only Republicans take that latter position.

The early Republicans were dedicated to racial equality and used government power to try to impose it on the South during Reconstruction. Today, it is only Republicans who want to roll back the federal civil-rights legislation of the 1960s.

The early Republicans greatly expanded the size and power of the federal government, and not only for war-effort purposes. They enacted a homestead act to plant settlers on Western land, rather than selling the land to rich speculators. They enacted an income tax to increase the budget and spread the burden. They assumed Congressional power to create a corporation (something only state governments had done until then) to build a transcontinental railroad. Today the GOP has a significant faction that wants to make the federal government small enough to drown in a bathtub.

The early Republicans created a national currency to supplant money issued by state-chartered banks. Today's GOP has a faction that screams "End the Fed!"

The early Republicans wanted and enacted a high protective tariff to encourage the development of American industry. Today's Republicans are free-traders.

The early Republicans were dedicated to Lincoln's theory of political economy, that an activist government should create economic opportunity for all through internal improvements, land distribution, tariffs, etc. Today's Republicans are economically laissez-faire.

By today's standards, the early Republicans were practically socialists. In fact, Marx himself ran a column in Republican Horace Greeley's New York Tribune, and Lincoln appointed Marxists to high civil and military offices (you can read the story in The "S" Word: A Short History of an American Tradition . . . Socialism, by John Nichols).

This is how the Republican agenda was viewed by their opponents when they got started: Negro equality, vegetarianism, free love, women's suffrage, redistribution of wealth, and . . . popery! :eek:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/1856-Republican-party-Fremont-isms-caricature.jpg

Does any of this bother you Pubs?

(For my part, as a Democrat, I don't mind at all that in the Civil War period the Democrats were the party of elitism, the "slave power," racism and states' rights; we got better. Eventually.)

That chick, second from the left, has the weirdest outfit. What the fuck is that?
 
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