19 of the 20 most charitable states voted for Romney

[toubab]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-20-most-charitable-states-voted-for-romney/

"Of the 20 states whose residents donated the biggest share of their income, all but one voted for Mitt Romney in 2012.

Rates of giving ranged from 1.74 percent in New Hampshire to 6.56 percent in Utah, as a share of their adjusted gross income, according to a comprehensive review of Internal Revenue Service data by the Chronicle of Philanthropy. (Utah is home to a sizable population of Mormons, who are expected to contribute 10 percent of their income to the church.) Among the top 20, all but 18th-ranked Florida voted for Romney during the last presidential election. Wyoming ranked 20th with a rate of giving of 3.09 percent."

Interesting.

 

[Que]

That's like saying 19 of 20 states that pray the most voted Romney. Non-story.

 

[GVG]

...but not very surprising.

Attend church often, more likely (R), have an offering plate in front of you more often.

Non-religious, more likely (D), don't attend church, no weekly offering plate in your face.

High income, more likely (R), have more disposable income, can afford to give away a larger percent.

Low income, more likely (D), and if you're struggling to put food on the table and gas in the car less likely to make charitable donations.

I suspect some will try to use the "19 of 20 for Romney" blurb to show the moral superiority of Republicans, but it's probably just demographics and statistics.

 

[Que]

Attend church often, more likely (R), have an offering plate in front of you more often.

Non-religious, more likely (D), don't attend church, no weekly offering plate in your face.

High income, more likely (R), have more disposable income, can afford to give away a larger percent.

Low income, more likely (D), and if you're struggling to put food on the table and gas in the car less likely to make charitable donations.

I suspect some will try to use the "19 of 20 for Romney" blurb to show the moral superiority of Republicans, but it's probably just demographics and statistics.

Not statistically true.

In general, Democrats prefer to handle charity through government. It's a lot more affordable is you simply have the government borrow 40 cents on the dollar then reach into your own pocket.

Added bonus: When Republicans do give and volunteer at higher rates and are familiar with what is available in a community complain about unnecessary, wasteful, and duplicative programs you get to call them mean spirited and greedy.

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[toubab]

That's like saying 19 of 20 states that pray the most voted Romney. Non-story.

I disagree. Strongly. Even if it were true that 19 of the 20 most religious states voted for Romney.

 

[about_average]

High income, more likely (R), have more disposable income, can afford to give away a larger percent.

You would think, but

The wealthiest Americans—those who earned $200,000 or more—reduced the share of income they gave to charity by 4.6 percent from 2006 to 2012.

Meanwhile, Americans who earned less than $100,000 chipped in 4.5 percent more of their income during the same time period. Middle- and lower-income Americans increased the share of income they donated to charity, even as they earned less, on average, than they did six years earlier.

http://philanthropy.com/article/As-Wealthy-Give-Smaller-Share/149191/

 

[toubab]

You would think, buthttp://philanthropy.com/article/As-Wealthy-Give-Smaller-Share/149191/

Again, interesting.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Do not the Democrats routinely boast that they have more highly educated, and one would assume also highly compensated people, than do the Republicans?



I know their donor list is quite impressive beginning with trial lawyers and Wall Street...

 

[toubab]

Do not the Democrats routinely boast that they have more highly educated, and one would assume also highly compensated people, than do the Republicans?



I know their donor list is quite impressive beginning with trial lawyers and Wall Street...

They can't brag about being more charitable, obviously. Donating to politicians or political parties is hardly charity.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Look at how many truly rich liberals create foundations to shelter their money from the tax man.

Chelsea will always have her six-figure salary...

Like the union goons, you have to set aside so many no-show jobs.

 

[Saint Peter]

Like the union goons, you have to set aside so many no-show jobs.

Link?


Lies?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Sopranos: Season 5

 

[Saint Peter]

I do not watch the devil's television.

 

[Saint Peter]

I lied.


I watch the devil's television when Peyton is breaking touch down pass records.


Stay tuned for more of that.

 

[toubab]

Look at how many truly rich liberals create foundations to shelter their money from the tax man.

Chelsea will always have her six-figure salary...

Like the union goons, you have to set aside so many no-show jobs.

Republicans are pretty much right when they say Democrats and liberals are generous with other people's money, but not with their own. These statistics pretty much prove that.

 

[toubab]

I lied.


I watch the devil's television when Peyton is breaking touch down pass records.


Stay tuned for more of that.

I watch the devil's television even when Peyton isn't playing. Like last night. And I enjoyed the game.

 

[about_average]

Republicans are pretty much right when they say Democrats and liberals are generous with other people's money, but not with their own. These statistics pretty much prove that.

Actually they don't prove a lot. It only includes people who itemize their deductions, so that leaves out 65% of taxpayers right off the bat.

 

[toubab]

Actually they don't prove a lot. It only includes people who itemize their deductions, so that leaves out 65% of taxpayers right off the bat.

I disagree. Wealthy people itemize. Almost exclusively.

 

[dan_c00000]

16.56 percent in Utah

About 62% of Utah's residents are Mormon. Mormons are required to tithe 10% of their income to the church. So that explains why Utah is so high. Romney, who is Mormon, won Utah 73% to 25%.

Are you shocked by any of this two years later? If so you might want to enroll in an 8th grade civics class.

 

[toubab]

About 62% of Utah's residents are Mormon. Mormons are required to tithe 10% of their income to the church. So that explains why Utah is so high. Romney, who is Mormon, won Utah 73% to 25%.

Are you shocked by any of this two years later? If so you might want to enroll in an 8th grade civics class.

Of course I'm not shocked. Anyone who doesn't know what the political score is in this country is a fool.

 

[cowslinger64]

Look at how many truly rich liberals create foundations to shelter their money from the tax man.

Chelsea will always have her situation theygure salary...

Like the union goons, you have to set aside so many no-show jobs.

Union people where I work get canned for not showing up for work rather quickly. If you're trying to imply that companies are paying for someone not to show up or that they are paying them not to do anything or do enough that their jobs make them no money... Then you're outta yer mind.

If you're talking about public sector unions, I won't comment on that. Lol

I think you could ask miles that, doesn't he waste our tax money at "work"?

 

[about_average]

I disagree. Wealthy people itemize. Almost exclusively.

What it shows is that more people in 19 states who itemized voted for Romney.
Take Mississippi, second highest donations at 4.99%. 74% of the taxpayers in MS weren't even counted (only 26% itemize). Unless you have the figures of the total charitable donations, including from people who didn't itemize, you don't really know who actually donated the most.

 

[toubab]

What it shows is that more people in 19 states who itemized voted for Romney.
Take Mississippi, second highest donations at 4.99%. 74% of the taxpayers in MS weren't even counted (only 26% itemize). Unless you have the figures of the total charitable donations, including from people who didn't itemize, you don't really know who actually donated the most.

It's apples to apples comparisons of all states. Believe me, wealthy people in all states itemize. Every single state.

 

[about_average]

It's apples to apples comparisons of all states. Believe me, wealthy people in all states itemize. Every single state.

I never said it wasn't, nor did I say the majority of wealthy don't itemize.

What I'm saying is that it is a study about the people who itemize donate, not what taxpayers overall donate.
You don't know what the political the leanings are of most people who donate, only the political leanings of most people who itemize.

 

[toubab]

I never said it wasn't, nor did I say the majority of wealthy don't itemize.

What I'm saying is that it is a study about the people who itemize donate, not what taxpayers overall donate.
You don't know what the political the leanings are of most people who donate, only the political leanings of most people who itemize.

You may consider the statistics meaningless, but I don't. I think they give a very good picture of how charitable the wealthier people in each state are, and what their political leanings are.