Proof that AJ's lying through his teeth - again

[butters]

I just caught this little gem. So, to recap:

• You accept the definition of subhuman provided by butters.
• So yes, by your admission, the words you used are the literal definition of subhuman. Not only that - per your post, they are the most common usage associated with the word.
• You are defending that by insisting that what you meant to say is that all residents of Haiti are less moral and below the level of "normal" humans (because their lives suck and it's their fault).
• In the context of the original thread, which you are so insistent is a key to understanding your words, you used that as an excuse not to express even a small amount of remorse over the death and destruction of the lives of thousands of people (choosing instead to accuse and ridicule those who did) while you were arguing that the US should not send aid.
• So putting this all together, you did technically call Haitians subhuman, but what you meant was that RESIDENTS of Haiti (completely different thing than "Haitians," okay???) (oh and aka "slaves") are not normal humans and do not deserve help.

Wow, you're a great guy. Please keep going. Can I fetch you a bigger shovel?

and don't forget he then tries to use byron's name (again) with the slippery 'but he was saying the same things i was in that thread!' the fact that byron suggested the states should step back and allow the uk to step up to the plate (not a position i agreed with - help is help and people should help people no matter where they're from) IS NOT the same as byron saying the devastated populace was subhuman. if he had, i would have been on his case at the time. he didn't. therefore aj attempts to slur byron's character with this deliberately open-to-inference line.

 

[butters]

You don't strike me as a person that easily dismisses what others think of you.

i care what my friends think of me, and what i think of myself.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

A Visual Recap Summary Of This Entire Thread (For Those Too Lazy Or Too Busy To Read The Whole Thing):

AJ talked some seriously sanctimonious shit back in the past and was feeling himself off of it, as usual:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn8h1_Xv5I/UYo2GFnZuYI/AAAAAAAALs0/Asmb87Y3Y-0/s1600/jericho-missile.gif

So Butters was like:

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g409/jactrades/Gifs%20and%20Macros/Negative%20Response/ExcuseMeWhileIReadThroughYourBullshit.gif

then AJ was like:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/Shockwave_73/Scaredconfusedguy.gif

and then Butters was like:

http://i.imgur.com/BaWvUiL.gif

AJ's bro calvary buddies in the background were getting froggy like:

http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/grenade21.gif

so everyone else was like:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VZjsAimKVHQ/UTbhBFlr_fI/AAAAAAAASco/n5j7OrDYwBI/s640/tumblr_mj77dkBIMM1ra5vgio1_500.gif

and wrought major wreck upon AJ and his coterie.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/4cc718b995023e40c5b3c87029245e3b/tumblr_nb3riwiZGs1qbg6fto1_400.gif

for some strange and stupid reason, AJ was still like:

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwv6x69D191r20x9do2_r1_250.gif

so then Pheila was like:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/09c672a8290958f8b6cc42bfa5301875/tumblr_n4a817gGF51rvb8cmo1_400.gif

enda story.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/jYAGkoghdmD9S/giphy.gif

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I don't think you said anything racist. I think you just made it clear that you are hard-hearted in your Randian views.

Dolf does not seems to think you said anything racist. She just thinks you were a dick.

I don't think anyone--including Butters--sees it as other than what you wrote: that the Haitians are less than human and therefor deserve no compassion. Lots of people find that offensive regardless of race.

And subhuman and "less than human" are synonomous. Unless sub- no longer means what it means.

What have they done to save their own humanity?

When did they stand up for themselves and fight back against tyranny?

Why have they just "accepted" what fate has dealt to them, and if they're willing to accept their fate, then why should I not also adopt the fatalism endemic to that half of the island? At least they don't have winter to contend with; maybe that's why they won't struggle on their own behalf...

In this regard, I do see them as less than human, just like the idiots wound up on Jihad willing to turn themselves into robotic slaves for Allah, ergo, I'm not too concerned about the "humanitarian" nature of the disaster any more that I got too terribly worked up over the hands-out welfare wards in the wards of Louisiana's welfare state after Katrina.

There is clearly a difference in this context. I was discussing and aspect of their plight.

Why are you so afraid of standing alone with your own words?

I have stood by them repeatedly. Only the truly ignorant comment on something they are not actually following.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

and don't forget he then tries to use byron's name (again) with the slippery 'but he was saying the same things i was in that thread!' the fact that byron suggested the states should step back and allow the uk to step up to the plate (not a position i agreed with - help is help and people should help people no matter where they're from) IS NOT the same as byron saying the devastated populace was subhuman. if he had, i would have been on his case at the time. he didn't. therefore aj attempts to slur byron's character with this deliberately open-to-inference line.

Ishmael was saying the same thing but you hate him, so why mention him? You'd just go bat-guano crazy.

When Byron died, you cried the same fucking alligator tears that you did over the Haitians and you're pretty much forgetting about him as quickly as you are the Haitians. I come here most every morning and honestly miss for and long for the mental offerings that he had left for me overnight.

In these respects, you are less than human. You're a crying machine.

 

[girlsmiley]

A Visual Recap Summary Of This Entire Thread (For Those Too Lazy Or Too Busy To Read The Whole Thing):

AJ talked some seriously sanctimonious shit back in the past and was feeling himself off of it, as usual:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn8h1_Xv5I/UYo2GFnZuYI/AAAAAAAALs0/Asmb87Y3Y-0/s1600/jericho-missile.gif

So Butters was like:

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g409/jactrades/Gifs%20and%20Macros/Negative%20Response/ExcuseMeWhileIReadThroughYourBullshit.gif

then AJ was like:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/Shockwave_73/Scaredconfusedguy.gif

and then Butters was like:

http://i.imgur.com/BaWvUiL.gif

AJ's bro calvary buddies in the background were getting froggy like:

http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/grenade21.gif

so everyone else was like:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VZjsAimKVHQ/UTbhBFlr_fI/AAAAAAAASco/n5j7OrDYwBI/s640/tumblr_mj77dkBIMM1ra5vgio1_500.gif

and wrought major wreck upon AJ and his coterie.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/4cc718b995023e40c5b3c87029245e3b/tumblr_nb3riwiZGs1qbg6fto1_400.gif

for some strange and stupid reason, AJ was still like:

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwv6x69D191r20x9do2_r1_250.gif

so then Pheila was like:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/09c672a8290958f8b6cc42bfa5301875/tumblr_n4a817gGF51rvb8cmo1_400.gif

enda story.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/jYAGkoghdmD9S/giphy.gif

This is the most awesome post on the GB I have ever seen.

 

[Queersetti]

There is clearly a difference in this context. I was discussing and aspect of their plight.



I have stood by them repeatedly. Only the truly ignorant comment on something they are not actually following.

I am puzzled as to why you think that explaining that Haitians aren't the only people you regard as subhuman makes things better.

 

[Lancecastor]

Playground clowns.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I am puzzled as to why you think that explaining that Haitians aren't the only people you regard as subhuman makes things better.

Because you want to be because you make your opinion up many years ago...

Do you see beheading monsters in the name of Allah as fully human?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Playground clowns.

It's more fun than anything else going on.

Open up any vette thread and see the same clowns giving exactly the same answer no matter what the issue is; wonderful what tolerance, diversity and liberalism actually garners a society...

 

[Saint Peter]

Playground clowns.

You dirty rotten cruel lying son of a bitch.

Playground clowns are not sub human!

 

[girlsmiley]

I am puzzled as to why you think that explaining that Haitians aren't the only people you regard as subhuman makes things better.

He's a puzzling guy in general.

Just not the soduku kind that actually makes sense.

 

[girlsmiley]

You dirty rotten cruel lying son of a bitch.

Playground clowns are not sub human!

I'm loving your passion right now.

 

[Lancecastor]

You dirty rotten cruel lying son of a bitch.

Playground clowns are not sub human!

Your pants are on fiar, poopy head!

Speaking of lies... Does anyone believe chipbutt has a man?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Not here.



Who would put up with that?

 

[girlsmiley]

Your pants are on fiar, poopy head!

Speaking of lies... Does anyone believe chipbutt has a man?

You know what?

You were having a go at chupa chup when I came here all those years ago.

No bullshit. When I first came here you were having a go at Butters and her weight. It was stupid.

You got a thing for her or what? Then again, who the fuck cares?

A 4-year grudge is enough to send alarm bells ringing.

 

[Lancecastor]

Subhuman bird lies!

The chipbutt and its butter alt are not fat....they are fat and ugly.

 

[Queersetti]

Because you want to be because you make your opinion up many years ago...

Do you see beheading monsters in the name of Allah as fully human?

Of course I do. Humans are capable of doing terrible things. Usually justified by denying the humanity of others.

 

[girlsmiley]

Subhuman bird lies!

The chipbutt and its butter alt are not fat....they are fat and ugly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8ZEFUSYAI

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Of course I do. Humans are capable of doing terrible things. Usually justified by denying the humanity of others.

There you have it. When you act like an animal, then I regard you as less than fully human.

Same thing for the mass murderer or the urban youth who has checked out and given up.

Do I feel that they are not of the same species? Oh hell no.

But of all the species, only we have the ability to choose what we are. Too many have gone feral and do not even attempt to develop their potential as human beings. That may be a hard attitude, but I do not come in here every day hurling racial epithets, homosexual insults and anti-semitic slurs, yet somehow, I'm the bad guy, and I submit that in this instance and many similar, it is merely because of my polity and nothing I'v actually said, while the actual hate is tolerated because it has approved political positions.

 

[Lancecastor]

You dirty rotten cruel lying son of a bitch.

Playground clowns are not sub human!

Well, most are subs....ipso fatso, sub humans.

 

[Saint Peter]

Is being a little crybaby sub human?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Subhuman is one word.

Sub-human is not proper english any more than sub human is.

 

[Queersetti]

There you have it. When you act like an animal, then I regard you as less than fully human.

Same thing for the mass murderer or the urban youth who has checked out and given up.

Do I feel that they are not of the same species? Oh hell no.

But of all the species, only we have the ability to choose what we are. Too many have gone feral and do not even attempt to develop their potential as human beings. That may be a hard attitude, but I do not come in here every day hurling racial epithets, homosexual insults and anti-semitic slurs, yet somehow, I'm the bad guy, and I submit that in this instance and many similar, it is merely because of my polity and nothing I'v actually said, while the actual hate is tolerated because it has approved political positions.

You don't think that you invite a negative response when you try to draw a moral equivalence between Haitian storm victims and murdering terrorists?

 

[Saint Peter]

Subhuman is one word.

Sub-human is not proper english any more than sub human is.

Proper english is not proper English.