An underaged male raped by a woman in America can be punished with CHILD SUPPORT

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Documented facts:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/he-says-he-said-no-to-sex-now-says-no-to-child-support/1183449

An underaged male gets raped? He gets punished by the Government!

They use all kinds of arguments they never use against women: "He wanted it" "he asked for it" "he enjoyed it"...

FEMINISTS WOULD BE IN AN UPROAR if female rape victims got punished with child support obligations for being raped!

Keep your mouths shut about this, Lit, you know you've been stone cold busted.
 
Forgive me, but how exactly does a woman rape a man? I get females in authority having sex with minors should be punished equally as men, but rape?...
 
Hey, I respect that as a woman you're saying this, but call me stupid, I find the link ambiguous. I repeat: I get women abusing power or a group taking advantage...but we're talking RAPE. FEMALES raping a man. PLEASE talk me through it 'cos I don't get it. If you explain it to me I'll be the first to say 'I get it now, sorry'....
 
I'm guessing from your bewilderment that you must be a really old person. Rather than telling you what it is perhaps you could read up on 'forced to penetrate'.

You may also want to read up on statutory rape since this thread was about that.


And LJ, how many times do people need to tell you that Child Support is about looking out for the child and not punishing the parents? I know, a billion times because you're too dense to grasp such concepts.
 
'Forced to Penetrate'. Ok. Keep going....

And my age? Well, I guess that's a rather ageist comment to say the least but I think irrelevant. Anyway, give an example of how this would happen 'cos I'm still not quite with you...
 
'Forced to Penetrate'. Ok. Keep going....

And my age? Well, I guess that's a rather ageist comment to say the least but I think irrelevant. Anyway, give an example of how this would happen 'cos I'm still not quite with you...

You should probably listen to her. I mean she is from India.

Basically in expert in all things rape.
 
I'm guessing from your bewilderment that you must be a really old person. Rather than telling you what it is perhaps you could read up on 'forced to penetrate'.

You may also want to read up on statutory rape since this thread was about that.


And LJ, how many times do people need to tell you that Child Support is about looking out for the child and not punishing the parents? I know, a billion times because you're too dense to grasp such concepts.
It's about punishing underaged boys who are rape victims. You are too fucking stupid to comprehend that females are NEVER, EVER, EVER slapped with child support if she got pregnant by rape and didn't get custody of the kid. EVER. You always seem to shut up and blow away into oblivion when I remind you of that.

Now shut up and blow away. AGAIN.
 
How crazy is a state child support agency for believing there is any justice in requiring the victim to pay child support that comes from abuse. Talk about being re-victimized!!!
 
So screw the kid because it is a product of rape?


I can understand if you make an argument to abort the pregnancy but once the kid is out there in the world it becomes the parents responsibility whether you want the kid or not is not the question.

Victims of rape have been known to end up keeping and raising their baby so why are we automatically assuming it is re-victimization?
 
I see your point, and there are definitely cases where the boy does not feel victimized at all. But when an adult takes the choice away from a child who is not old enough to legally consent (as in statutory rape) , and the child is not party to the choice to have the baby which is product of that crime...how can that child be held legally responsible?
 
I get your point, which is why I've said it in the past and in this thread that the purpose of child support isn't meant as a punishment to either parent but merely the state looking out for the interest of the child. It is a horrible situation all round but when you look at it from a legal viewpoint it makes sense.

Although I admit that 14 is a bit too much. But I don't know is the child support laws have exceptions built in or if judges have discretionary powers to exempt parents in certain cases.
 
And in fairness...I think when a girl who has been the victim of statutory rape and chooses to keep the baby should receive full child support from the perpetrator. Criminal punishment is insufficient and perps should be responsible for the financial consequences of their actions too
 
[Clearly, legislatures need to seriously consider this and not leave it to the discretion of child support services/I]
 
So screw the kid because it is a product of rape?

No screw the rapist...take all their FUCKING MONEY. Not the victim...asshole.

I can understand if you make an argument to abort the pregnancy but once the kid is out there in the world it becomes the parents responsibility whether you want the kid or not is not the question.

No...."Oh your rapist decided to have your baby so you have to pay now because you have a penis.", that's not how that shit works. Certainly shouldn't be, it's fucking wrong....


Victims of rape have been known to end up keeping and raising their baby so why are we automatically assuming it is re-victimization?

Have been know to and having the state hold you legally responsible for another persons crime against you under threat of punitive action are two totally different things. "Sorry you're a 14 year old rape victim but you owe your rapist 1/2 your paycheck for the next 18 fucking years or you're going to jail kid." right....glad to know you support that shit. :rolleyes: once again, asshole.

I get your point, which is why I've said it in the past and in this thread that the purpose of child support isn't meant as a punishment to either parent

Except in the case of making a rape victim pay economically crippling child support payments before he's even got a chance to get his life going is just salt in the wound and totally fuckinig asinine.

but merely the state looking out for the interest of the child. It is a horrible situation all round but when you look at it from a legal viewpoint it makes sense.

No it doesn't make sense from a legal stand point....they don't make female rape victims pay child support for their unwanted kids. Nope they make sure she has every option to opt out that she wants from abortion pills to adoption at any time she want...because female rights and girl power!!

Boy victim? Fuck him and his being raped, that' shit's un important, pay child support lil bitch cuz your rapist wanted to keep the baby....HAHAHA cuz that's fair and legally makes sense right?

Fucking asshole.

Could you imagine the OUTRAGE if the state forced a woman rape victim to have a a baby and then force her to pay her rapist child support because he decided to have the kid? OMG....it would be like the 2nd fucking holocaust....shit would be coming unglued in M'uricuh if that atrocity went down. But not to a male...fuck him cuz it's about the kid not him. :rolleyes: Could not be more sexist.

Although I admit that 14 is a bit too much. But I don't know is the child support laws have exceptions built in or if judges have discretionary powers to exempt parents in certain cases.

Who knows...might not...might have a judge with the same "Guys can't get raped and just in case they are the victims of a sexually abusing female then fuck em, make them pay child support because girl power!!" attitude you have.
 
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