Just Plain Depressing...

[Devilius]

OK, since some of you are dumb and pigheaded enough to accept Lady Ver's use of fantasy statistics as a foundation for argumentation, I'll show that I can do this as well (although, in all seriousness, I bet I'm a whole hell of a lot closer to the true numbers than she is).

Hear, hear.

And since you're the same folks who say I'm here 24/7 (as some sort of pejorative charge) and it's demonstrable that I've posted more stories here in more varied categories than any of you (and thus gotten more and farther-ranging response from readers) and since, both with my gay stories and my hetero ones in female account names, I've experienced all of the heavy hitting sexual harassment in PMs and e-mails as that described on this thread, my statistical base is as good as anything any of the rest of you can come up with.

Blah,blah, blah...

And some people still whine about being called a self - obsessed pretentious dick.

 

[LadyVer]

And you seem to be linked into the fellowship of Try Sail, so that's pretty much all anyone needs to know right there. (Oh, and also that you are so obsessed with me that you travel the forum looking for references to me. )

One of your conspiracy theories, again. "I travel the forum looking for references to you?" Actually, if I hear about a funny thread, I read it. I can only assume from your one comment you either didn't know enough about H.L. Mencken or didn't care about the subject. Odd.

 

[sr71plt]

And some people still whine about being called a self - obsessed pretentious dick.

Oh, do you question these facts? Done your research, have you? Or you just like to hear the facts you like to hear and any facts you don't like to hear must ipso facto be pretentious? Those arguing what you don't want to hear are supposed to do so with a hand tied behind their back on bringing relevant aspects of an argument to bear?

(Not to mention: You didn't catch the whole tongue-in-cheek aspect of the post, which arises from my claim that the stats aren't there for any side of any argument to be bringing to bear? I posted just that up the line.)

 

[RoyceConnors]

Do actual facts really matter? The fact that it's so prevalent should be enough to be concerned. Bickering about who's right doesn't solve anything, it just adds to the problem and does nothing to help solve it. I'd rather post solutions to a problem, than exacerbate it further. Is that possible among the adults here?

 

[truthbtold]

This thread is not depressing, it has gotten disgusting.

Far off topic with other boards, other posters, other people being pulled into it and now discussions about how many stories someone has?

I've watched and rolled my eyes and bit my tongue, but no more.

SRPilot you are doing what you do best: Fabricating things and trying to make a thread about a serious topic all about you.

The person you keep posting about is not the person in question.

Furthermore the poster you are discussing, that you speak of as pretty much stalking you as some form of groupie? They tell a very different side of that story. Yes, they do.

That person is also missing from this site of late. I am sure you have noticed this and that is why you continue to talk about it and inflate the details again making a thread somehow about you with no fear of that person contradicting you.

There are people in this thread that know I am right on both accords. Perhaps....I am one of them. I'm not, but in the true spirit of the boards here I know I will be called an alternate ID of someone. And I do have a regular ID here, but have not participated in this shameful 'discussion' until now and will not return.

Perhaps I am Lovecraft68, after all, anyone who calls you out is accused by you of being him. Maybe I am the OP of this thread tired of you turning into another thread about you. Who else could I be? This devil person seems to be a pot stirring individual, maybe I am him?

Or maybe I am just someone fed up with the outright lies and deceit that are spread here.

You are lying Pilot and many here know it. If they do not, they do now. You're a tiresome individual and one without much of a life to act like this.

I hope at some point both of these people come back to lit and see this and I hope they out your lies. It will be a cause of great amusement to many here to see that.

But not for me, for me this is not amusing, simply sad and beyond my comprehension that people behave in this manner.

 

[patientlee]

57% of posters to this thread just made popcorn, and are waiting to see who gets the last word in.

 

[jacktar48]

57% of posters to this thread just made popcorn, and are waiting to see who gets the last word in.

Can you back that number up with three independent surveys, none of which were conducted by Fox News?

Popcorn does sound like a good idea, although I hate that microwave crap.

 

[LadyVer]

It's interesting about how threads change. Cheese popcorn would be good.

I wouldn't call this thread disgusting. It's just the usual back and forth on the AH. And there have been a lot of good comments. If only Pilot could keep his to a minimum.

 

[JKendallDane]

57% of posters to this thread just made popcorn, and are waiting to see who gets the last word in.

Damn! I'm all out of pop corn! Will you share if I snuggle up next to you and promise to be good?

 

[Devilius]

Perhaps I am Lovecraft68, after all, anyone who calls you out is accused by you of being him. Maybe I am the OP of this thread tired of you turning into another thread about you. Who else could I be? This devil person seems to be a pot stirring individual, maybe I am him?

Duuude...I don't need alts to attack someone.

Lovecraft pretty much attacked Pilot already. He doesn't write with that much precision. And the Bard has gone AWOL after seeing the direction in which this thread was going. Judging by your writing style, you're definitely not him either.

I'm sure the OP would want all of you to stop bumping and reviving this thread each time it tries to bury itself.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hey, you you calling imprecise? I...yeah, okay....anyway.

 

[jacktar48]

It's interesting about how threads change. Cheese popcorn would be good.

I wouldn't call this thread disgusting. It's just the usual back and forth on the AH. And there have been a lot of good comments. If only Pilot could keep his to a minimum.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lszkv9Eld21qhwmnpo1_500.jpg

I always leave it in too long.

 

[sr71plt]

SRPilot you are doing what you do best: Fabricating things and trying to make a thread about a serious topic all about you.

I'm game. What am I fabricating? You brought it up--and went to an alt to do so (speaking of fabricating), so you made the charge. Back it up, or you are just blowing smoke.

The person you keep posting about is not the person in question.

As a matter of fact, I now believe that the person I thought it was isn't the person the OP is talking about. But I've only been made aware of that possibility in the past two days, and I stopped any claim that I did know who it was (go ahead and check and call me on that if you think you can). That said, first, to get back into all of that would be just to heat the thread up again, and second, it isn't all that relevant. This is a third-party thread. To my knowledge whoever it is about hasn't posted here (or is it you?). I haven't gone after that person. She departed, which was her privilege to do. All of this was brought up by a third party. I at no time asserted that she wanted or gave permission for this thread to be posted. If you believe otherwise, cite it.

Furthermore the poster you are discussing, that you speak of as pretty much stalking you as some form of groupie? They tell a very different side of that story. Yes, they do.

The person I talked about withdrew stories and her account here within the same time frame as the person TSB noted, it was reasonable with what was given that it was her, and she has never given me a different side to the story. The only thing she has emailed to me about that she thinks may have differed (although it doesn't) from what I've posted is that she didn't come across country just to see me. I never posted she did. She had another reason to come across country, but I didn't get into that because it would reveal more of the nature of her work, which I didn't want to do. The basic facts remain as I have given them (and I have emails that prove it). She made the effort to identify me from the context of my stories, she said she wanted to meet me and was coming to my town, I demurred, she sent me a photo of the title page of the original copy of one of my Master's Thesis, housed in the university library where I live, and she said she'd found me in the telephone book, was at a motel at the bottom of the ridge I live on, and had walked by my house. These are facts that neither you nor she have or can refute--because they are true--and, yes, this is a mild form of stalking. It was all initiated by her and I made clear I didn't want my separate lives combined.

If you can claim otherwise, do so, or, again, you are blowing smoke.

So, anyone else who wants to weigh in on this, go ahead and do so. If you don't, it's just blowing smoke. It isn't evidence that I've fabricated a damn thing.

And stop being a coward and come out from behind that alt if you want to be throwing accusations around.

 

[RoyceConnors]

I'm game. What am I fabricating? You brought it up--and went to an alt to do so (speaking of fabricating), so you made the charge. Back it up, or you are just blowing smoke.



As a matter of fact, I now believe that the person I thought it was isn't the person the OP is talking about. But I've only been made aware of that in the past two days, and I stopped any claim that I did know who it was (go ahead and check and call me on that if you think you can). That said, first, to get back into all of that would be just to heat the thread up again, and second, it isn't all that relevant. This is a third-party thread. To my knowledge whoever it is about hasn't posted here (or is it you?). I haven't gone after that person. She departed, which was her privilege to do. All of this was brought up by a third party.



The person I talked about has never given me a different side to the story and the only thing she has emailed to me about that she thinks may have differed (although it doesn't) from what I've posted is that she didn't come across country just to see me. I never posted she did. She had a reason to come across country, but I didn't get into that because it would reveal more of the nature of her work, which I didn't want to do.

If you can claim otherwise, do so, or, again, you are blowing smoke.

So, anyone else who wants to weigh in on this, go ahead and do so. If you don't, it's just blowing smoke. It isn't evidence that I've fabricated a damn thing.

And stop being a coward and come out from behind that alt if you want to be throwing accusations around.

I'll weigh in as one of the dumb assholes you mentioned earlier and just say, Who really gives a flying fuck what you think Pilot? This wasn't about you, or your thoughts or opinions. It's about the lack of morality in people to behave this way just because of the anonymity. I'm sure if you were face to face with anyone here, you wouldn't say 99.9% of what you say, because you wouldn't have the guts to do it as the real you. So you hide behind your 3rd person anonymity like all the rest of the problem causers and act like the omnipotent person you portray yourself to be.

 

[sr71plt]

I'll weigh in as one of the dumb assholes you mentioned earlier and just say, Who really gives a flying fuck what you think Pilot?

I'm game. Who gives a flying fuck what you think either? You have more right to post your opinions here than I do? (I presume you do think so, yes. But you don't.)

So, so much for that jab.

The fact is that I have repeatedly given the most possible answer to this issue here--getting the Web site simply to enforce its rules in ways it could do with little effort--and you and others would prefer just to ineffectually moan about guys who aren't going to read this thread and would have a ball doing so if they did.

You're a pretty dumb mob, you know.

 

[JKendallDane]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8305968896/hA7C671FE/

 

[sr71plt]

Speaking of dumb mob.

And, point of order, it's the dumb mob that's hijacking this thread, not me. (And will continue to do so.)

 

[SikFuk]

....The fact is that I have repeatedly given the most possible answer to this issue here--getting the Web site simply to enforce its rules in ways it could do with little effort....

And I have already pointed out that your proposed solution is actually a non-solution because enforcement is not in Laurel's business model. I'd suggest she needs an IT person to handle enforcement, and a budget to pay for that IT person. There's a solution that would actually work. The only missing piece of the puzzle is the budget - assuming Laurel would be willing to go down that road, which is a big assumption.

It's possible she thinks the needs the trolls to gin up business. Perhaps if she realized she's losing business (in the form of good authors leaving the site because of all the trolls) she might be willing to give enforcement a try.

The budget would be the other stumbling block. Would authors be willing to pay a "civility fee" to keep this place free of trolls? I would...

 

[Devilius]

Speaking of dumb mob.

And, point of order, it's the dumb mob that's hijacking this thread, not me. (And will continue to do so.)

http://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7791772672/h06A02B50/

 

[sr71plt]

And I have already pointed out that your proposed solution is actually a non-solution because enforcement is not in Laurel's business model. I'd suggest she needs an IT person to handle enforcement, and a budget to pay for that IT person. There's a solution that would actually work. The only missing piece of the puzzle is the budget - assuming Laurel would be willing to go down that road, which is a big assumption.

And I've already posted (twice) that your solution is even less in Laurel's business model than is my solution--which is already set up as the rule and could be implemented with a press of a button now and again. Yours can't. Mine doesn't even require a budget. Yours does. I don't see why your solution is anywhere as close to workable as mine. I've never suggested that Laurel's actually going to do anything, though (which makes all of the bellyaching on this thread even more nonsensical and ineffective--and fodder for the amusement of precisely the trash-emailing guys its lambasting).

I grant, though, that at least you addressed a solution to the problem rather than just moaning and groaning and posturing.

 

[sr71plt]

Do actual facts really matter? The fact that it's so prevalent should be enough to be concerned. Bickering about who's right doesn't solve anything, it just adds to the problem and does nothing to help solve it. I'd rather post solutions to a problem, than exacerbate it further. Is that possible among the adults here?

Again I'm game and I'd be quite happy to see some adult behavior here--including from you. I've posted (several times) what I suggest is a solution that's already there and just needs to be activated. If you've posted a feasible solution, I missed it. What was your solution?

 

[SikFuk]

Again Pilot, the point is, your so-called solution relies on the status quo. The problem is, the status quo is Laurel doing nothing (even though she could do something if she wanted to.) My solution changes the status quo. Capiche?

If there are between 50 and 100 stories posted each day, charge each author a $1 civility fee per new story and apply that money to enforcement. If enforcement is as easy as pushing a button, Laurel doesn't need an IT person with a computer degree, all she needs is someone with a computer, a level head, and a couple of hours a day free to log on and clean up the place. (Down here in the trenches, where kids with college degrees work for $9 per hour at Starbucks, Laurel would have no problem finding someone to work part time for $20 per hour from their home computer.)

If Laurel really wanted to upgrade the site, she could charge a civility fee for the privilege of commenting on stories, and/or participating in any of the forums except the GB, which has undeniable entertainment value for the asshole population.

I don't think it's in our best interests to just give up and accept the status quo, especially when the status quo sucks as hard as it does here, but I'm just one person.

Good luck, ya'll. I'm in songwriting mode right now and I really need to get back to work.

 

[sr71plt]

Again Pilot, the point is, your so-called solution relies on the status quo. The problem is, the status quo is Laurel doing nothing (even though she could do something if she wanted to.) My solution changes the status quo. Capiche?

And again, your solution relies on Laurel doing even more than the status quo--and shelling out more money too--when just activating the existing rules would be as effective as a lot of hoopla in trying to track down and doing anything about a trash-talking emailer.

So, no I don't Capiche that Laurel's going to do your solution requiring more effort and money if/when she's not going to simply activate the existing rules.

I really don't understand how you can continue to fail to understand this and perhaps we shouldn't bother taking that merry-go-round for another spin. Most on this thread don't seem to care about actual solutions anyway.

I don't think you have any understanding of what applying a fee of any sort would entail.

 

[RoyceConnors]

I'm game. Who gives a flying fuck what you think either? You have more right to post your opinions here than I do? (I presume you do think so, yes. But you don't.)

So, so much for that jab.

The fact is that I have repeatedly given the most possible answer to this issue here--getting the Web site simply to enforce its rules in ways it could do with little effort--and you and others would prefer just to ineffectually moan about guys who aren't going to read this thread and would have a ball doing so if they did.

You're a pretty dumb mob, you know.

we bow to your greatness, your immensity. No other has shown the ability to be so narcissistic about this matter but you. For only you in your great ability to foresee the truth beyond all doubt, do we worship you.

Start a thread like Scouries and worship yourself.

 

[sr71plt]

we bow to your greatness, your immensity. No other has shown the ability to be so narcissistic about this matter but you. For only you in your great ability to foresee the truth beyond all doubt, do we worship you.

Start a thread like Scouries and worship yourself.

I guess this is your way of (not) admitting that you don't, in fact, have a solution to provide here and don't intend on acting like an adult.