New Witness to Michael Brown Shooting

[nowisthetime]

And you will always believe the worst of the police. Also nothing new.

Here's a great exercise you should try:

Go back over your own posts. Now every place it says "police", substitute "blacks". Read it out loud. How bad does that sound? How racist? How prejudiced?

You have become that which you despise.

BLUE IS THE NEW BLACK.

How dare you even compare being black to being a cop? Really?







Really?

 

[doowdniw]

This thread has all gone to speculation. The wingnuts will always want to believe the worst in the male victim of color. Nothing is new.

Has gone to speculation? I think we pretty much started out at speculation and never left.

 

[Balladeer08]

How dare you even compare being black to being a cop? Really?







Really?

I dare many things. And always have. Because I am brave, and brash, and arrogant.

The comparison is fairly obvious. Blacks used to be a class of people that it was considered acceptable to villify, demean, convict without evidence, etc. You now have placed police in that same type of class.

If it is wrong to do to one, it is wrong to do to the other.

Even the drummer jokes are "wrong". But they are so damn much fun....

 

[Balladeer08]

Has gone to speculation? I think we pretty much started out at speculation and never left.

And he hits it out of the park!

Practically knocked the cover off that one.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I can't even comprehend what the RWCJ is circling around. This young guy was gunned down in the street in cold blood. The cop that shot him did so because he was walking down the middle of the street and ran when the cop pulled his gun.

 

[Balladeer08]

Don't feed the troll.

 

[nowisthetime]

I dare many things. And always have. Because I am brave, and brash, and arrogant.

The comparison is fairly obvious. Blacks used to be a class of people that it was considered acceptable to villify, demean, convict without evidence, etc. You now have placed police in that same type of class.

If it is wrong to do to one, it is wrong to do to the other.

Even the drummer jokes are "wrong". But they are so damn much fun....

Blacks used to be? Excuse me, they still are....more than ever. We aren't living in Post-Racial times.

Number one, you DON'T choose your race. I was graced to be born into this black body. One chooses to become a cop and deal with all the consequences that job entails and the interaction with the public that occurs.

Number two, the duty of a cop is to protect and serve their communities. It also helps to foster strong positive relationships in these communities. Obviously that was not the case in this situation.

And number three, I know there are many honorable and noble police officers, but too often when cops do abuse their power, they are not swiftly punished---cover ups occur. This leads to anger and frustration of the general public.

 

[Balladeer08]

Blacks used to be? Excuse me, they still are....more than ever. We aren't living in Post-Racial times.

Number one, you DON'T choose your race. I was graced to be born into this black body. One chooses to become a cop and deal with all the consequences that job entails and the interaction with the public that occurs.

Number two, the duty of a cop is to protect and serve their communities. It also helps to foster strong positive relationships in these communities. Obviously that was not the case in this situation.

And number three, I know there are many honorable and noble police officers, but too often when cops do abuse their power, they are not swiftly punished---cover ups occur. This leads to anger and frustration of the general public.

More than ever? You still can't sit at the lunch counter, have to use a different bathroom? I bet you look forward to getting the vote as well. (Why yes,that was sarcasm)

Nobody is supposed to be "swiftly punished". There is the whole "Due Process of Law" thing. You might look it up. It includes investigation, indictment, arraignment, trial and so many other lovely pieces. Designed with the intent that "it is better to let a hundred guilty parties go free than to send one innocent man to prison".

Your apparent desire to substitute mob rule for the rule of law does you no credit.

 

[Dream59]

Blacks used to be? Excuse me, they still are....more than ever. We aren't living in Post-Racial times.

Number one, you DON'T choose your race. I was graced to be born into this black body. One chooses to become a cop and deal with all the consequences that job entails and the interaction with the public that occurs.

Number two, the duty of a cop is to protect and serve their communities. It also helps to foster strong positive relationships in these communities. Obviously that was not the case in this situation.

And number three, I know there are many honorable and noble police officers, but too often when cops do abuse their power, they are not swiftly punished---cover ups occur. This leads to anger and frustration of the general public.

Yes used to be. It may still be happening but it is not acceptable to the majority of the public. More than ever? That is an insult to the many that died before your time.

Sometimes to protect and serve, unfortunately, means to kill someone.

The rest I agree with pretty much.

 

[Beco]

And you have NO idea what it's like to be a person of color in the US!

White IS a color....

 

[RjThoughts]

White IS a color....

*eyeroll*

Okay then

He doesn't know what it's like to be someone that's NOT white in this country.

(And there are parts of the country where I can't even stand outside of a bookstore without cops being nervous. Looking at you, Texas!)

 

[Beco]

*eyeroll*

Okay then

He doesn't know what it's like to be someone that's NOT white in this country.

(And there are parts of the country where I can't even stand outside of a bookstore without cops being nervous. Looking at you, Texas!)

was kidding.....

 

[Dream59]

*eyeroll*

Okay then

He doesn't know what it's like to be someone that's NOT white in this country.

(And there are parts of the country where I can't even stand outside of a bookstore without cops being nervous. Looking at you, Texas!)

Since we know that you are unable to read, then you can only have devious reasons for standing outside a bookstore.

 

[Paul_Chance]

Since I am a creature of infinite curiosity, I thought I would share some background for folks who are interested in this type of background information.

Under Missouri Law:

"Dangerous felony means..."assault of a law enforcement officer in the first degree,"

"Serious physical injury" means physical injury that creates a substantial risk of death or that causes serious disfigurement or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any part of the body;"

http://www.missouri-criminal-defense.com/assault/

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5560000061.HTM

Missouri Law - Assault of a Law Enforcement Officer

"(2) Knowingly causes or attempts to cause physical injury to a law enforcement officer, corrections officer, emergency personnel, highway worker in a construction zone or work zone, utility worker, cable worker, or probation and parole officer by means other than a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument;"

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5650000082.HTM

Missouri Law regarding an officers use of force:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5630000046.HTM

In 2011, 726 people were killed with "Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet,etc.)"

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-

2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11

Missouri Law regarding an officers use of force:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5630000046.HTM

 

[RjThoughts]

was kidding.....

There are some that believe in what you said...scary

 

[Dream59]

Has gone to speculation? I think we pretty much started out at speculation and never left.

^^^^^ what he said.

 

[RjThoughts]

Since I am a creature of infinite curiosity, I thought I would share some background for folks who are interested in this type of background information.

Under Missouri Law:

"Dangerous felony means..."assault of a law enforcement officer in the first degree,"

"Serious physical injury" means physical injury that creates a substantial risk of death or that causes serious disfigurement or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any part of the body;"

http://www.missouri-criminal-defense.com/assault/

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5560000061.HTM

Missouri Law - Assault of a Law Enforcement Officer

"(2) Knowingly causes or attempts to cause physical injury to a law enforcement officer, corrections officer, emergency personnel, highway worker in a construction zone or work zone, utility worker, cable worker, or probation and parole officer by means other than a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument;"

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5650000082.HTM

Missouri Law regarding an officers use of force:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5630000046.HTM

In 2011, 726 people were killed with "Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet,etc.)"

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-

2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11

Missouri Law regarding an officers use of force:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5630000046.HTM

And they can use deadly force on a man giving up?

 

[RjThoughts]

Since we know that you are unable to read, then you can only have devious reasons for standing outside a bookstore.

*shake my head*

 

[Dream59]

And they can use deadly force on a man giving up?

No state allows deadly force on someone that is not or is no longer a threat. But to apply that in this situation, at this time, is pure speculation.

 

[Ishmael]

And they can use deadly force on a man giving up?

That is an assumption on your part for which there is NO concrete evidence.

Ishmael

 

[Dream59]

*shake my head*

Sorry I could not resist LOL.

 

[RjThoughts]

No state allows deadly force on someone that is not or is no longer a threat. But to apply that in this situation, at this time, is pure speculation.

With the second autopsy results, looking more like that the cop IS looking at some charges...

 

[RjThoughts]

That is an assumption on your part for which there is NO concrete evidence.

Ishmael

Second autopsy makes that weak on your part.

 

[Dream59]

With the second autopsy results, looking more like that the cop IS looking at some charges...

I haven't read anything about a second autopsy. I have been pretty much tied up since early afternoon.

 

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