Ferguson Riots? Does no one remember Rodney King?

[OregonWriter14]

• 1992, Los Angeles:
  • Rodney King, a Black man, gets beat up by White cops.
  • The White cops are acquitted by a jury of mostly (10 of 12) White suburbanites.
  • The Blacks of Los Angeles riot and -- ready for this? -- burn and loot mostly Black, Asian, and Latino neighborhoods, killing 50+ people, the majority of whom were Black or Latino, not White.
  • Really?
• 2014, Ferguson:
  • Michael Brown, a Black man, is killed by a White cop.
  • In response, the Blacks of Ferguson riot and loot -- yes, you should expect this -- mostly Black neighborhoods.
  • And now a second man has been shot because he brandished a fire arm at a cop who -- with total justification -- shot him, a killing that was caused by the rioters, not the cops.
  • Really?

How does this make any sense at all.

And how do the people of Ferguson justify continuing that lawlessness after video is released of Michael Brown bullying a store owner half his size after being confronted for stealing just a few minutes before being shot.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that the shooting was justified. Like the rest of the world, I don't have enough information to assess whether or not it was a "clean shoot".

But then, that's my point. No one -- particularly the people currently destroying their own neighborhoods in Ferguson -- has enough information at this point to justify any response other than demanding answers. How are they going to feel if the autopsies -- 3 of them -- all show that Brown's hands were not up when he was shot, that the bullet trajectories and powder burns (if any) show that his hands were stretched out before him, as he tried to seize the police officer's weapon?

 

[Balladeer08]

• 1992, Los Angeles:
  • Rodney King, a Black man, gets beat up by White cops.
  • The White cops are acquitted by a jury of mostly (10 of 12) White suburbanites.
  • The Blacks of Los Angeles riot and -- ready for this? -- burn and loot mostly Black, Asian, and Latino neighborhoods, killing 50+ people, the majority of whom were Black or Latino, not White.
  • Really?
• 2014, Ferguson:
  • Michael Brown, a Black man, is killed by a White cop.
  • In response, the Blacks of Ferguson riot and loot -- yes, you should expect this -- mostly Black neighborhoods.
  • And now a second man has been shot because he brandished a fire arm at a cop who -- with total justification -- shot him, a killing that was caused by the rioters, not the cops.
  • Really?

How does this make any sense at all.

And how do the people of Ferguson justify continuing that lawlessness after video is released of Michael Brown bullying a store owner half his size after being confronted for stealing just a few minutes before being shot.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that the shooting was justified. Like the rest of the world, I don't have enough information to assess whether or not it was a "clean shoot".

But then, that's my point. No one -- particularly the people currently destroying their own neighborhoods in Ferguson -- has enough information at this point to justify any response other than demanding answers. How are they going to feel if the autopsies -- 3 of them -- all show that Brown's hands were not up when he was shot, that the bullet trajectories and powder burns (if any) show that his hands were stretched out before him, as he tried to seize the police officer's weapon?

One of the things about the riots is they prevent and delay the investigation.

Whose purpose is served by that? The looters for one.

 

[nowisthetime]

Nice, you took your time and dedicated a whole thread to point out how savage and ignorant blackie is.....

Applause to you

 

[anchoredinocean]

Except the store owners said through their attorney THERE WAS NO ROBBERY NOR DID THEY DIAL 911

Also, do you just allow the large media to show you the just few that are looting, versus the people in the community who were standing in front of the stores protecting them, cleaning up broken glass and things, etc. etc?

Ignorance is sure fucking bliss when it comes to believing what you want to because your own pitiful biases.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I wish these online-only pressed schmucks would just quit with the untrue, reaching and baiting speculation already.

It's getting fucking old.

 

[anchoredinocean]

I wish these online-only pressed schmucks would just quit with the untrue, reaching and baiting speculation already.

It's getting fucking old.

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[nowisthetime]

I wish these online-only pressed schmucks would just quit with the untrue, reaching and baiting speculation already.

It's getting fucking old.

Except the store owners said through their attorney THERE WAS NO ROBBERY NOR DID THEY DIAL 911

Also, do you just allow the large media to show you the just few that are looting, versus the people in the community who were standing in front of the stores protecting them, cleaning up broken glass and things, etc. etc?

Ignorance is sure fucking bliss when it comes to believing what you want to because your own pitiful biases.

What gets me is these wingnuts extreme willingness and THIRST to slam black victims of violence. They did that shit for Trayvon and now they are doing this to this young man. They are so quick to believing the worst in a black person.

His entire post was pointless and full of race-baiting. As if whites have never rioted in the history of humankind. He obviously can't ponder what leads to this explosion of anger.

 

[snugglestruggle]

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Read this ^^^^ . I find it ironic that there is one phrase that seems to capture the essence of todays riots..."carnival atmosphere".

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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What gets me is these wingnuts extreme willingness and THIRST to slam black victims of violence. They did that shit for Trayvon and now they are doing this to this young man. They are so quick to believing the worst in a black person.

His entire post was pointless and full of race-baiting. As if whites have never rioted in the history of humankind. He obviously can't ponder what leads to this explosion of anger.

They're trying so hard to be slick about it with the shitty dog-whistles and even shittier coded lingo. Everything that is so clearly not true and not even physically or logistically possible is being thrown out there on the stage and written in a certain way to make it smell plausible or legit.

The point is to be able to say it once so it sticks in people's heads, no matter how far-fetched or ludicrous it may be. Just get it out there, keep on saying it and the power of the meme will work its wormlike magic in the brain. The racism is already there, it just needs a little finessing.

I was here for the bullshit Trayvon threads. I shut the main one down just through stubborn perseverance. I don't think I have the heart to do it again, though.

 

[nowisthetime]

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They're trying so hard to be slick about it with the shitty dog-whistles and even shittier coded lingo. Everything that is so clearly not true and not even physically or logistically possible is being thrown out there on the stage and written in a certain way to make it smell plausible or legit.

The point is to be able to say it once so it sticks in people's heads, no matter how far-fetched or ludicrous it may be. Just get it out there, keep on saying it and the power of the meme will work its wormlike magic in the brain. The racism is already there, it just needs a little finessing.

I was here for the bullshit Trayvon threads. I shut the main one down just through stubborn perseverance. I don't think I have the heart to do it again, though.

It is sickening. But that is how racism is spread and continues....repeating the same old memes. Funny these same wingnuts never smear white victims of violence. No, that's reserved for young black boys.

And they don't even realize that they are doing it! In reality, very few people were rioting, most of the protests were peaceful.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It is yet to be proven whether Brown was a victim of violence or a perpetrator. It will be established after an inspection of the clothing he was wearing and other evidence, if any, come to light.

ETA: There are probably more white victims of violence than black, but those victims rarely become front page news.

 

[nowisthetime]

It is yet to be proven whether Brown was a victim of violence or a perpetrator. It will be established after an inspection of the clothing he was wearing and other evidence, if any, come to light.

ETA: There are probably more white victims of violence than black, but those victims rarely become front page news.

You are kidding! They never make front page news, huh?

 

[OregonWriter14]

Nice, you took your time and dedicated a whole thread to point out how savage and ignorant blackie is.

You are showing your own bias in this statement, because my point was not about black people, it was about ignorant people. Ignorant people are rioting in the streets of Ferguson -- Blacks mostly, but Whites, Hispanics, and Others, too -- and I find them all stupider than shit, regardless of their skin color.

Ignorance is sure fucking bliss when it comes to believing what you want to because your own pitiful biases.

Again, your own biases, not mine. My critique is not of Black people alone. How many white crowds have celebrated their Football or Hockey teams championship victory by rioting in the street, burning cars, and looting shops? And whether people are protecting stores or not is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. The thread is about ignorant, reactive fuckheads tearing up their own communities because THEY are racist. A white cop shoots a black man, and what do they do? Do they demand answers and wait until they have them to seek revenge against the responsible party...? No, they take to the streets and harm their own neighbors. Real smart.

It is yet to be proven whether Brown was a victim of violence or a perpetrator. It will be established after an inspection of the clothing he was wearing and other evidence, if any, come to light.

My point exactly.

 

[anchoredinocean]

It is yet to be proven whether Brown was a victim of violence or a perpetrator. It will be established after an inspection of the clothing he was wearing and other evidence, if any, come to light.

ETA: There are probably more white victims of violence than black, but those victims rarely become front page news.

Hey kiddie fucker, let's get this straight, no one but your fellow racists believe in your supposed ZOMG DA POOR WHITES R BEING SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED ZOMG bullshit.

Do the world and the step-grand-children of yours to fantasize about fucking. Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger.

 

[nowisthetime]

You are showing your own bias in this statement, because my point was not about black people, it was about ignorant people. Ignorant people are rioting in the streets of Ferguson -- Blacks mostly, but Whites, Hispanics, and Others, too -- and I find them all stupider than shit, regardless of their skin color.

Again, your own biases, not mine. My critique is not of Black people alone. How many white crowds have celebrated their Football or Hockey teams championship victory by rioting in the street, burning cars, and looting shops? And whether people are protecting stores or not is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. The thread is about ignorant, reactive fuckheads tearing up their own communities because THEY are racist. A white cop shoots a black man, and what do they do? Do they demand answers and wait until they have them to seek revenge against the responsible party...? No, they take to the streets and harm their own neighbors. Real smart.

My point exactly.

Oh damn it, you are back peddling now. I'm sorry, I could have sworn you said 'blacks' rioting then you said "how can the people of Ferguson justify their lawlessness".




Your original post:

"Ferguson Riots? Does no one remember Rodney King?

1992, Los Angeles:
Rodney King, a Black man, gets beat up by White cops.
The White cops are acquitted by a jury of mostly (10 of 12) White suburbanites.
The Blacks of Los Angeles riot and -- ready for this? -- burn and loot mostly Black, Asian, and Latino neighborhoods, killing 50+ people, the majority of whom were Black or Latino, not White.
Really?
2014, Ferguson:
Michael Brown, a Black man, is killed by a White cop.
In response, the Blacks of Ferguson riot and loot -- yes, you should expect this -- mostly Black neighborhoods.
And now a second man has been shot because he brandished a fire arm at a cop who -- with total justification -- shot him, a killing that was caused by the rioters, not the cops.
Really?

How does this make any sense at all.

And how do the people of Ferguson justify continuing that lawlessness after video is released of Michael Brown bullying a store owner half his size after being confronted for stealing just a few minutes before being shot.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that the shooting was justified. Like the rest of the world, I don't have enough information to assess whether or not it was a "clean shoot".

But then, that's my point. No one -- particularly the people currently destroying their own neighborhoods in Ferguson -- has enough information at this point to justify any response other than demanding answers. How are they going to feel if the autopsies -- 3 of them -- all show that Brown's hands were not up when he was shot, that the bullet trajectories and powder burns (if any) show that his hands were stretched out before him, as he tried to seize the police officer's weapon?"

Your entire fucking post was full of generalizations.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post

It is yet to be proven whether Brown was a victim of violence or a perpetrator. It will be established after an inspection of the clothing he was wearing and other evidence, if any, come to light.

ETA: There are probably more white victims of violence than black, but those victims rarely become front page news.

You are kidding! They never make front page news, huh?

I didn't say "never;" I said "rarely." Can you show me an instance where a white person who is not famous is allegedly a victim of violence and the story is a major news item such as this one or the story of Trayvon Martin?

ETA: Here are some examples of violence that did not make the front pages except, maybe, locally. http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/

 

[Liar]

ETA: There are probably more white victims of violence than black, but those victims rarely become front page news.

You base that on what?

Also, the levevant thing to look at here is proportional police violence.

 

[dolf]

to quote men in black: a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

"there are probably more..."

more doubling down on bullshit. Your Jon Benet Ramseys are precious gemstones to the world and heaven and earth is immediately moved for their justice.

never will they sit as a carcass in the middle of a street for four hours.

fucking christ...why I can't with you basic bitches and these basic bitch bullshit threads.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

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They're trying so hard to be slick about it with the shitty dog-whistles and even shittier coded lingo. Everything that is so clearly not true and not even physically or logistically possible is being thrown out there on the stage and written in a certain way to make it smell plausible or legit.

The point is to be able to say it once so it sticks in people's heads, no matter how far-fetched or ludicrous it may be. Just get it out there, keep on saying it and the power of the meme will work its wormlike magic in the brain. The racism is already there, it just needs a little finessing.

I was here for the bullshit Trayvon threads. I shut the main one down just through stubborn perseverance. I don't think I have the heart to do it again, though.

Official translation: He got his ass kicked defending Trayvon, and this gig looks to be worse cuz there's a vid of Michael playing the bully.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You base that on what?

Flailing to get the last word in, no matter how stupid it sounds.

 

[anchoredinocean]

ETA: Here are some examples of violence that did not make the front pages except, maybe, locally. http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/

Yet again kiddie fucker uses white nationalist sources to back up his so called claims that poor whitey has it sooooooo bad.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yet again kiddie fucker uses white nationalist sources to back up his so called claims that poor whitey has it sooooooo bad.

The source has nothing to do with anything. Are the examples true or not and, it they are true, what do you think would have happened had the races been reversed?

 

[Boxlicker101]

You base that on what?

Also, the levevant thing to look at here is proportional police violence.

That is strictly an opinion and I am certain no statistics are recorded on the subject.

Judging from my own experiences, I consider the cops to commit unwarranted violence based on class or social status rather than race. That is, a white denizen of Skid Row is as likely to be worked over by the cops as a black denizen of the same status. I am not going to defend the cops but I will also not rush to judgment.

 

[Ramone45]

Many young black men in my city get killed all the time. When this happens, the "community" disappears. "Snitches get stitches".