RobDownSouth
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New Witness to Michael Brown Shooting
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That's what I thought you'd say. And it is totally irrelevant as to the fundamental question of whether or not Brown was murdered by the cop.
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I'm a racist?
Because my first reaction is not, WHITE COP GUILTY IN MURDER OF INNOCENT BLACK "BOY" WHO WAS JUST STANDING AROUND ALL INNOCENT AND ALL?
btw, what college was he about to attend? Barber?
no, you're a racist because you're a racist. this is just yet another example of your glaringly apparent racist attitudes.
as you know.
and as you know i and everyone else here knows.
dumbass.
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so he stole like maybe three dollars worth of cigars. this obviously means he deserved to die. makes perfect sense to me.
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just an extension of the castle doctrine.
you fuck with property, you deserve to get shot. so it's written.
not only did he have dumb luck, he had terrible taste. swisher sweets?
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Brown was obviously a bad guy, and deserved to be arrested and prosecuted for the strong arm robbery he had just perpetrated, and probably for assaulting a police officer, but that doesn't mean he deserved to die.
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A partially redacted witness report in the packet given to media – which did not state who provided the information – said that a woman inside of the store came out of the bathroom during the altercation.
She told police she saw Brown tell the store employee that he and his companion wanted several boxes of cigars from behind the counter.
“As [redacted employee name] was placing the boxes on the counter, Brown grabbed a box of Swisher Sweet cigars and handed them to [Dorian] Johnson who was standing behind Brown,” the report stated. Johnson has said in interviews that he was with Brown when he was killed.
The witness said that the store employee then told Brown he had to pay first, and then Brown reached over the counter to grab more packs of cigars and turned to leave the store.
According to the witness account, the employee called 911 and attempted to block Brown from leaving by standing in front of the door.
“That is when Brown grabbed [redacted employee name] by the shirt and forcefully pushed him back in to a display rack,” the report said.
The police report goes on to state that surveillance video from the store shows Brown and Johnson entering the store before Brown hands the pack of Swisher Sweets to Johnson.
“An apparent struggle of confrontation seems to take place with Brown, however it is obscured by a display case on the counter,” the report stated. “Meanwhile, Johnson sets the box he was handed back on the counter.”
She told police she saw Brown tell the store employee that he and his companion wanted several boxes of cigars from behind the counter.
“As [redacted employee name] was placing the boxes on the counter, Brown grabbed a box of Swisher Sweet cigars and handed them to [Dorian] Johnson who was standing behind Brown,” the report stated. Johnson has said in interviews that he was with Brown when he was killed.
The witness said that the store employee then told Brown he had to pay first, and then Brown reached over the counter to grab more packs of cigars and turned to leave the store.
According to the witness account, the employee called 911 and attempted to block Brown from leaving by standing in front of the door.
“That is when Brown grabbed [redacted employee name] by the shirt and forcefully pushed him back in to a display rack,” the report said.
The police report goes on to state that surveillance video from the store shows Brown and Johnson entering the store before Brown hands the pack of Swisher Sweets to Johnson.
“An apparent struggle of confrontation seems to take place with Brown, however it is obscured by a display case on the counter,” the report stated. “Meanwhile, Johnson sets the box he was handed back on the counter.”
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If the cop was battered better think again, and as battery on a LEO is a felony, his pal Johnson is fucked.
No, I haven't. But judgments have to be made all along the way in cases like this. Witnesses are extremely important in such cases, especially where there is no recorded visual evidence of what happened. Somebody has to decide which witness is credible, and which is not, and who to ignore, and who to concentrate on, interview further, etc. Daily judgments are made on who is a strong witness, and who is weak. All building to a judgment as to whether there is reason enough to file charges, and which charges, etc.
As an example, Rachel Jeantel was the state's best witness against George Zimmerman. She was the best they had, and she could hardly have been worse. She was terrible. It's no wonder they lost the case and Zimmerman was found not guilty on all charges.
I look at these cases differently than most people. They virtually always turn out the way I think they will. Zimmerman not guilty, as an example. The asshole who killed Renisha McBride guilty of murder, as another. I was especially glad to be correct about that one.
It doesn't take me very long to make a judgment on such cases, and I do it out of intellectual curiosity, usually. The only one I had strong feelings about was the McBride murder, but I find all of them interesting, in one way or another.
And I keep saying it doesn't matter, if Tiffany Mitchell is correct about what she saw.
Makes no difference if the cop was battered. If Brown was surrendering before he was shot and killed, that's murder.
Fuck Johnson. I'm not concerned with him.
Why are you betting your "years of experience" against a witness that has only given a media interview. I am not saying she is right or wrong, but if you have done as many investigations as you claim, then you know that eye witness testimony is often unreliable, and that an interview with the media does not equal a legal statement that will stand up to cross examination. You are too quick to judgment. Wait for the ME report and a trial. Then you can take the officer out and hang him. IF he is found guilty.
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From the information that I have at this point, I believe this witness. However: I am not necessarily convinced that the cop outright murdered him. I look on both sides of the spectrum. The officers in todays world have a lot to face. If they pause to long, it will be them to die. If they act out of panic they murder. So on the other side is where the problem lays. We have a different world emerging and officers have to be trained to handle it. Old ways and out of shape cops are not going to protect the innocent. I might add the innocent have to understand what that officer faces daily and act accordingly. Don't run from the police if you are innocent! Don't act like you have a weapon if you don't! It is bad on both ends.
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There are several eyewitnesses who basically confirm Tiffany Mitchell's version of events.
I understand what you're saying, and normally I cut the police a lot of slack.
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the kid was a punk thug. his FB pictures shows him with large sum of cash and guns...yeah, he didn't do nothing
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the kid was a dumbass, got what he deserved. was only a matter of time...unless he pulled his head out of his ass.
however, if we look at the GB obama socialist left wing here on GB, these fucktards refuse to pull their own head out of their ass. guess this is how they like to do their own dental exam
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another obama fucking idiot. carry on, dumbass
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