Our new Queen of Eurovision

[stickygirl]

Many of you are stateside and regard us Europeans with perplexed curiosity, which is fair enough. This post might either add to it or help explain how we trump the world when it comes to gloriously frivolous camp nonsense. The Eurovision contest has been hijacked by LGBT for years and this year raised the ire of the homophobes of Russia and its satellites, who described the event as a "hot bed of sodomy": the best publicity is often unintended.

So darlings, revel, be perplexed or just sit back on anything at hand and giggle with us at our new Eurovision Song Contest Queen, Conchita. She's got quite a voice

http://youtu.be/QRUIava4WRM

Not to forget Poland's milk-maids
http://youtu.be/q8J3GAg5zaI

and Iceland's "No Prejudice"
http://youtu.be/V5ZG378DH1c
( check the guy spelling the letter E at the end )

 

[Bramblethorn]

Many of you are stateside and regard us Europeans with perplexed curiosity, which is fair enough. This post might either add to it or help explain how we trump the world when it comes to gloriously frivolous camp nonsense. The Eurovision contest has been hijacked by LGBT for years and this year raised the ire of the homophobes of Russia and its satellites, who described the event as a "hot bed of sodomy": the best publicity is often unintended.

If I'm reading the tables right, Russia put Austria sixth in the finals, out of twenty-something contestants. Looks like Russia's Eurovision fans are a lot less *phobic than their politicians!

 

[sr71plt]

Thanks for posting the links.

 

[njlauren]

The kids who are into Eurovision and pop music are probably not the big homophobes in Russia, Russia in part because of the exodus after the fall of the Soviet Union, when there was a tremendous brain drain, was left basically a country that in the US would be the equivalent of the GOP base in the US, older people, and rural and blue collar people, which generally are the demographics for homophobes. Among other things, Russia's population last I checked is one of the older ones , and that skews things, too, and they haven't quite had a baby boom (Russia is actually paying people to have more kids...)...but with young people, they are going to be a lot more attuned to Eurovision and pussy riot than Putin.

Eurovision has been LGBT friendly for a long time, a trans woman from Israel won it several years ago (I hate the bitch, disgustingly beautiful and talented, neither of which am I

As far as Conchita Wurst, more power to him, though to be honest, looking as good as he does dressed up, I would rather go the whole way, he could make one stunning woman (on the other hand, I also respect this is his performing personna, not him, which is cool, even if I would give my right hand to look that good in a dress

 

[Redrosewitch]

I was so thrilled when s/he won !

And I remember the lady from Israel wining too. I agree gorgeous and talented....Jealous moi ?

 

[Wolfman1982]

Fuck the Eurovision and all that shit ! Something more important happened at Christiansborg castle the same day(10. of May 2014). Which should be more interesting, than the overblown budget, and what not at the "Eurovision island". Let me put it this way, if any one hates racists, Nazis and what have you on the extreme right. Well, let us just say, it was the BIGGEST post WWII clash between people calling themselves antifascist action (aka. antifa). versus the extreme right.
Which was summarised on tvavisen (a news program on DR1 in Denmark). in 30 seconds, while the local "Fox News" (aka. TV2 News) and Local Eyes , and other people covering it with videos. In its full length, to me that is much MORE important. Than the crap Eurovision is. Perhaps it is time you understood, that so MUCH more happened. That day, that it is more important, than Eurovision.

 

[oggbashan]

Russia is considering reviving its old USSR version of the Eurovision Song Contest so that its people need not have to watch the real thing.

But the USSR version was even worse than the Eurovision Song Contest for appalling entries.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Fuck the Eurovision and all that shit ! Something more important happened at Christiansborg castle the same day(10. of May 2014). Which should be more interesting, than the overblown budget, and what not at the "Eurovision island". Let me put it this way, if any one hates racists, Nazis and what have you on the extreme right. Well, let us just say, it was the BIGGEST post WWII clash between people calling themselves antifascist action (aka. antifa). versus the extreme right.
Which was summarised on tvavisen (a news program on DR1 in Denmark). in 30 seconds, while the local "Fox News" (aka. TV2 News) and Local Eyes , and other people covering it with videos. In its full length, to me that is much MORE important. Than the crap Eurovision is. Perhaps it is time you understood, that so MUCH more happened. That day, that it is more important, than Eurovision.

...really, you showed up in a thread that had been quiet for two months just to tell people they're wrong for being happy about something nice happening?

 

[Wolfman1982]

...really, you showed up in a thread that had been quiet for two months just to tell people they're wrong for being happy about something nice happening?

Eurovision is not nice. There is no way around it. I have been to better pro LGBT demonstrations, than an overblown budget "fest". And funny enough, then the mayor of Copenhagen (Frank Jensen) does NOT want to put money in the bottomless pit, which was the Eurovision. Which I have just read here it is in Danish . And here is one, where right-winged party known as "DPP" ("Danish Peoples Party"), and the republican party (who calls themselves Left) wants to get to the bottom of this debacle. When it comes to the blown budget. And with a smile, the "winner" of the "contest". Is the first picture you see.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Eurovision is not nice. There is no way around it. I have been to better pro LGBT demonstrations, than an overblown budget "fest".

Stop and think about this a moment.

You're arguing against fascism and in support of LGBT diversity... and in the same breath you're telling people that their way of supporting diversity is WRONG and they have to do it your way instead. Maybe take a step back and think about how the point of diversity is to accept one another's differences? And think about where those "my way is the only way" people tend to show up in the political spectrum?

LGBT activism is a huge, many-faceted thing. Different people come to it with different priorities and different ideas about how best to do it. If you spend your time harshing on people whose priorities and methods don't align perfectly with yours, the only people who win are the homophobes/transphobes.

The demonstrations you're talking about, they may well have been important in Denmark - I can't tell, they never made the news here. But Euro gets coverage around the world, brings queer and trans visibility to a different audience. Arguing that one's clearly "better" than the other is like comparing apples and oranges.

If you want to fight fascists, go for it. If you want to bicker with people on the same side because they're not doing it exactly the way you would, well, the fascists will love you for it.

 

[stickygirl]

Fuck the Eurovision and all that shit ! Something more important happened at Christiansborg castle the same day(10. of May 2014).

So post something about it and quit whining

There ya go
http://wiwibloggs.com/2014/08/04/denmark-hosting-esc-more-expensive/56949/#
http://eurovisionireland.net/2013/11/18/eurovision-2014-will-cost-an-estimated-e30-million/

Castle protest
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/cop001-copenhagen-denmark-10-05-2014-protesters-from-photo-164705481.html

 

[Wolfman1982]

So post something about it and quit whining

There ya go
http://wiwibloggs.com/2014/08/04/denmark-hosting-esc-more-expensive/56949/#
http://eurovisionireland.net/2013/11/18/eurovision-2014-will-cost-an-estimated-e30-million/

Castle protest
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/cop001-copenhagen-denmark-10-05-2014-protesters-from-photo-164705481.html

Thanks for posting those articles I had no idea, that there were English articles about it. The problem is this, it was NOT "racism free city" that clashed with the extreme right. That was antifa.

Bramblethorn: I will post a longer reply to you in a few moments. So no worries.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Stop and think about this a moment.

You're arguing against fascism and in support of LGBT diversity... and in the same breath you're telling people that their way of supporting diversity is WRONG and they have to do it your way instead. Maybe take a step back and think about how the point of diversity is to accept one another's differences? And think about where those "my way is the only way" people tend to show up in the political spectrum?

I am not saying their way or supporting diversity is wrong. I am just trying to point out, that making a deficit is not cool. And my former government made Denmark owe around 100 billion kroner (18+ billion us dollars) and my current government is doing nothing in trying to make the deficit smaller, other than cutting social security and other stuff, in their "social" view upon things. The only good thing, they have done is that , marriage between LGBT couples are legal.

LGBT activism is a huge, many-faceted thing. Different people come to it with different priorities and different ideas about how best to do it. If you spend your time harshing on people whose priorities and methods don't align perfectly with yours, the only people who win are the homophobes/transphobes.

Oh shit. The reason why I was "harshing" , was because of the deficit.

The demonstrations you're talking about, they may well have been important in Denmark - I can't tell, they never made the news here. But Euro gets coverage around the world, brings queer and trans visibility to a different audience. Arguing that one's clearly "better" than the other is like comparing apples and oranges.

Yes, and I think it is great that it brings the LGBT together. Heck I want to hear DQ with Drama Queen ,Herreys - Diggiloo Diggiley , Johnny Logan with Hold Me Now , or Nicole with Ein bisschen Frieden (yes I know old classics, and have my guilty pleasures).
And comparing apples and oranges is silly.

If you want to fight fascists, go for it. If you want to bicker with people on the same side because they're not doing it exactly the way you would, well, the fascists will love you for it.

I am not interested in being loved by fascists. I just do not like Eurovision, even though there are songs (more than I have mentioned). That I like, that has been in Eurovision , hell I was "forced" to watch the "contest". Until I could say no with a passion. And I realised how many songs were rip-offs of older classics, like "Basim Cliche Love Song" which is a blatant rip-off, of You To Me Are Everything . But then "Lordi Hard Rock Hallelujah" (the Finnish winner of Eurovision song contest). Some years before that. Was bloody great ! Eurovison is corrupt to the core, and that is why I do not like it. I am not against diversity, I am against all kinds of corruption, whether it is a contest or not. That is what makes my blood boil.

 

[stickygirl]

I can understand your dislike of the Eurovision machine and there's no doubt it is waaay too expensive, to the extent that some countries, notably Ireland, are rumoured to enter contestants they know can't win and so burden their country with hosting the next one. Having taken a quick look at the links I made, it looks like another case of greedy pigs at the trough: private companies that can run up huge costs, go bust and then burden the host country with having to paying the bill.

As for the music - everyone knows it's crap and very few songs have survived outside the glitter ball of Eurovision ( Abba being the exception to that ). The music is 'naff' but, in the context of the pink gay umbrella, its 'naff-ness' is it's endearing quality. It's a pantomime for adults.

It's difficult for people outside of Denmark to understand the political and economic history to which you refer, but using your frustration to beat a celebration, no matter how expensive, doesn't make much sense.

Money, power, greed, corruption: the cholesterol in the arteries of the planet huh?

 

[Wolfman1982]

Money, power, greed, corruption: the cholesterol in the arteries of the planet huh?

It could be And what I understand/can gather, then the UK has a TV speaker, who becomes more and more rude and rowdy as the show comes closer to its end . But let us fly on the wings of love, instead of me being an arse.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I am not saying their way or supporting diversity is wrong. I am just trying to point out, that making a deficit is not cool. And my former government made Denmark owe around 100 billion kroner (18+ billion us dollars) and my current government is doing nothing in trying to make the deficit smaller, other than cutting social security and other stuff, in their "social" view upon things. The only good thing, they have done is that , marriage between LGBT couples are legal.

I can completely understand being unhappy about the cost. If I had the money for Eurovision I'd spend it on something else instead!

I am not interested in being loved by fascists. I just do not like Eurovision, even though there are songs (more than I have mentioned). That I like, that has been in Eurovision , hell I was "forced" to watch the "contest". Until I could say no with a passion. And I realised how many songs were rip-offs of older classics, like "Basim Cliche Love Song" which is a blatant rip-off, of You To Me Are Everything . But then "Lordi Hard Rock Hallelujah" (the Finnish winner of Eurovision song contest). Some years before that. Was bloody great ! Eurovison is corrupt to the core, and that is why I do not like it. I am not against diversity, I am against all kinds of corruption, whether it is a contest or not. That is what makes my blood boil.

Yeah, most of the music isn't to my taste (agreed on Lordi!) My friends and I watch it partly to laugh at the costumes and some of the overblown songs. I was angry when my country paid a fortune to host the Olympics and I can understand feeling that way about Eurovision. But sometimes good things come out of it, and I think it's possible to be happy about those without having to buy into the whole contest.

 

[oggbashan]

It could be And what I understand/can gather, then the UK has a TV speaker, who becomes more and more rude and rowdy as the show comes closer to its end . But let us fly on the wings of love, instead of me being an arse.

The UK presenter used to be Terry Wogan, who treated the whole Eurovision event as a joke, ridiculing the show's presenters, the overblown tourist plugs, and the voting processes.

He, and the Eurovision Song Contest, were and are popular in the UK, and the contest is watched by millions of people. I think that the majority of UK viewers enjoyed it for its crassness.

Yet there was always a problem. Like many international events, each country tried to outdo and outspend the last host country. Eurovision has become too expensive for smaller countries to host, despite the advantage it gives their tourist industry.

Winning the Eurovision Song Contest could be a financial disaster for next year's host.

I wonder if that is the reason for some dreadful entries. The country doesn't want to win, but wants to take part.