White Woman Sentenced To 10 Years For Sex With Friend's 12-Year-Old Son

[Skiddles2014]

When I was 14, my friend was dating our other friend's mom.

They stayed together until he was 19.

 

[jacktar48]

Not sure what the significance is to the woman being white.

Oh, wait, yes I do, LJ is racist.

Also don't let him fool you, LJ is not appalled she got ten years, he is spanking it to a woman going to jail.

No, wait, correction.

He is begging his wife to please unlock his cock cage(yes they make them that small) so he can jerk off to it.

We need a little more humor here.


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/l/j/4/obama-bear-hug-photo.jpg

Where is the Secret Service while this guy is dry-humping the President?

 

[renard_ruse]

Time for this race baiting moron to go on ignore. No reason for race to be brought into this discussion.

 

[jacktar48]

When I was 14, my friend was dating our other friend's mom.

They stayed together until he was 19.

I take it you don't think she should get ten years in the slammer for that...

I have a second cousin in Cherokee County who started having an affair with a female teacher when he was 13. He moved in with her when he was 14, and they lived together for the next 8 years.

And she's BLACK!!!! And had two young children whom he helped raise and with whom he still has a relationship!!!! (Shocking, right? )

It was pretty much out in the open, and nobody found it necessary to call the police. He was always a large person, and his age wasn't obvious to people who didn't know. We're also talking about a full-blood Cherokee kid in Cherokee Country here, so it's not likely that the Law would have done anything anyway, unless there was some political advantage to be had.

Anyway, now at the age of 35 he's a HUGE person, and probably can't get it up anymore due to diabetes, arthritis, and neuropathy, so I for one am glad he got some while he was still able to do so.

My point here is that one-size-fits-all laws regarding widely varying individual situations are stupid, destructive, and manifestly unfair. As I have said before, "The law is an ass."

 

[Boxlicker101]

Time for this race baiting moron to go on ignore. No reason for race to be brought into this discussion.

I suggested the possibility she might have gotten such a severe sentence was that she is white, the boy is black and this happened in The South. I'm not saying there is any connection but there might be.

 

[jacktar48]

My point was to the people that think she received too much time. If it is wrong for a man and can lead to life, and 40 years for this crime is about the same as life, then it should be the same for a woman. It goes to fairness of sentence, just as your friend got no fairness in his sentence. We can't scream to put the pedophile away for good if it is a man, and not scream the same if it is a woman.

Here is where we disagree: Just because men are victimized by a corrupt system heavily influenced by religious bigots is no reason why women should be subjected to the same abuse.

The whole issue is so fraught with hysteria NOBODY is going to get a fair trial. It's more of your lovely Puritanical heritage. Europeans do not think this way, nor do most people anywhere.

I wish somebody who lives in a place where they aren't brainwashed from birth would weigh in here. But they're probably too busy laughing about how the stupid Americans are screwing themselves. Again.

 

[jacktar48]

I suggested the possibility she might have gotten such a severe sentence was that she is white, the boy is black and this happened in The South. I'm not saying there is any connection but there might be.

You're not allowed to think that.

In fact, thinking of any kind is discouraged.

Just do what the nice priest tells you. It will only hurt for a minute, and then you'll really like it.

 

[jacktar48]

This is apolitical.

And as a dad of a son, I know he was NOT ready for it at 12. NO 12 year old is!

I accept your statement regarding your own son. I do NOT accept it as a basis for forming the opinion that "no 12-year old is." YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

But you want to believe it, so you will, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

According to the study linked below somewhere:

"Younger teens (12 to 14 years old)

How many are sexually active?
Five percent of 12-year-olds, 10 percent of 13-year-olds and 20 percent of 14-year-olds are sexually active."

Albert, B., Brown, S., & Flanigan, C. (Eds.) (2003), 14 and Younger: The Sexual Behavior of Young Adolescents (Summary), Washington, DC: National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, pp. 5-6.

So I guess you think all these kids should be getting long prison terms, "to be fair?" Because if their partners are of similar ages, they are BOTH committing crimes here and are both culpable under the law whether male or female.

 

[jacktar48]

Of course thats a buncha bullshit. FUCKED IN THE HEAD pubescent males is what you shoulda said. It's illegal for a reason.

Yeah; it's illegal for a reason. A number of reasons. Really stupid ones, just like the Sodomy and Miscegenation Laws that were considered reasonable until quite recently.

Well, of course you should get 20 years in prison for eating your wife's pussy in private! Everyone knows that! The preacher said so! (As he probed with his tongue at the annoying pubic hair stuck between his teeth.)

"A generation ago sex in Western culture struggled under the yoke of Victorian repression.... In the name of religion heavy prohibitions were laid upon sexual life with a force that threatened the security of family structure and kept women from achieving status.

A misreading of the gospels declared a natural function sin and put in its place the perversion of masochism. The development of biological science, together with the rise of psychoanalysis, gradually restored some measure of respectability to sex in our society.

Indeed repression has given way to emphasis, reflected in a compulsive desire on the part of youth to go as far as possible (E. Sapir, 1928). The apparent overvaluation of sex, however, is somewhat spurious. It does not represent an elevation of sex as a biological impulse or of the erotic as an art.

The frantic quality that characterizes a great deal of sexual expression [and REpression] in our society is symptomatic of underlying ego-insecurity. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)

Please, PLEASE exercise your ability to think and stop devouring the shit they tell you is chocolate mousse. Form your own values as you see fit, BUT LEAVE OTHER PEOPLE ALONE.

 

[subdued_passion]

Yes there was a time when people were married off and had children as soon as they hit puberty. Life expectancy was different back then. It was a different culture that forced responsibilities early in life.

But this isn't true in today's society. Recent research has shown that adolescence now can last up to 23-25 years of age (MRI studies of the brain showed that there were still changes taking place).
You need a certain level of maturity to deal with sex. It's not just a physical act and can mess with adult minds let alone developing children who lack worldly experience to put their emotions into the proper context. It doesn't matter if your body is physically ready to handle it or that the person is giving consent.


I agree that there can't be a 'one shoe fits all' approach to the law. In the case of statutory rape it gets trickier as the age of consent varies from place to place, but any which way I look at it, 12 is too young. I wonder if he's even ever been out on a date or kissed a girl before this.

This experience will shape this boy's outlook towards the sex and his future relationships with women. What do you his expectations will be from now on? Do you think he will always succeed in bedding women? What happens when he's in his 30s and can no longer function as a stud but doesn't know any other way to relate with a woman?

Saying that there are no consequences is willful ignorance.

 

[Lancecastor]

Look up hebephilia. She suffers from it. And it DOES do damage to the boy.

Looked it up. Where did you get your diagnosis?

In Joy McCall's personal ads, etc online , she describes herself as married, bisexual, interested in meeting a younger woman 19-35.

I say she's just a horny hedonist.

And what harm exactly did you say the boy has suffered?

 

[jacktar48]

Looked it up. Where did you get your diagnosis?

In Joy McCall's personal ads, etc online , she describes herself as married, bisexual, interested in meeting a younger woman 19-35.

I say she's just a horny hedonist.

And what harm exactly did you say the boy has suffered?

We'll make sure he suffers before this is over.

 

[Lancecastor]

We'll make sure he suffers before this is over.

Sounds like he was raped by Mr. Johnson, his Gym Teacher.

 

[RjThoughts]

I accept your statement regarding your own son. I do NOT accept it as a basis for forming the opinion that "no 12-year old is." YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

But you want to believe it, so you will, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

According to the study linked below somewhere:

"Younger teens (12 to 14 years old)

How many are sexually active?
Five percent of 12-year-olds, 10 percent of 13-year-olds and 20 percent of 14-year-olds are sexually active."

Albert, B., Brown, S., & Flanigan, C. (Eds.) (2003), 14 and Younger: The Sexual Behavior of Young Adolescents (Summary), Washington, DC: National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, pp. 5-6.

So I guess you think all these kids should be getting long prison terms, "to be fair?" Because if their partners are of similar ages, they are BOTH committing crimes here and are both culpable under the law whether male or female.

Your "It's okay for boys but not girls" is WRONG! No more of this bullshit about, "No harm's done to the boy." There IS harm done.

Like I've said before, reverse the genders and it's a fucking shit storm!

 

[RjThoughts]

Looked it up. Where did you get your diagnosis?

In Joy McCall's personal ads, etc online , she describes herself as married, bisexual, interested in meeting a younger woman 19-35.

I say she's just a horny hedonist.

And what harm exactly did you say the boy has suffered?

Hedophiles LIKE boys 10-12. She does. She fits the criteria!

Harm is done, whether you idiots like it or not!

 

[Lancecastor]

Hedophiles LIKE boys 10-12. She does. She fits the criteria!

Harm is done, whether you idiots like it or not!

You keep saying "harm is done"...but offer nothing to back it up.

Were you raped as a boy?

Is that why your responses are so emotional and lacking in fact?

 

[RjThoughts]

You keep saying "harm is done"...but offer nothing to back it up.

Were you raped as a boy?

Is that why your responses are so emotional and lacking in fact?

You and your ilk say "girls are harmed" but "boys are not." I wish you'd make the distinction clear.

I've given my reasons as to why there's harm.

Was I was raped as a child? Does it matter, since you're obviously not thinking correctly.

 

[Domesticity]

Regardless of whether or not he enjoyed the sex, it is not right. Many victims of molestation by a close family member or friend of the family will tell you that they derive pleasure from it. It's one of the reasons that it stays secret for so long, because the victim doubts whether or not he or she was victimized or was a willing participant. Just becaus someone gets excited by what someone does to them doesn't make it okay. A child shouldn't be sexually abused by an adult. It is abuse evenif his dick gets hard. If he was playing with a girl his age it's no big deal, IMO. But because the woman is so much older, is the friend of his mother, probably has some power over him mentally and chose to have sex with this boy who isn't capable of fully consenting to sex with an adult it moves into the realm of abuse. I suppose one could compare it to a therapist having sex with a patient. It's not okay and consent is not possible.

 

[jacktar48]

Regardless of whether or not he enjoyed the sex, it is not right. Many victims of molestation by a close family member or friend of the family will tell you that they derive pleasure from it. It's one of the reasons that it stays secret for so long, because the victim doubts whether or not he or she was victimized or was a willing participant. Just becaus someone gets excited by what someone does to them doesn't make it okay. A child shouldn't be sexually abused by an adult. It is abuse evenif his dick gets hard. If he was playing with a girl his age it's no big deal, IMO. But because the woman is so much older, is the friend of his mother, probably has some power over him mentally and chose to have sex with this boy who isn't capable of fully consenting to sex with an adult it moves into the realm of abuse. I suppose one could compare it to a therapist having sex with a patient. It's not okay and consent is not possible.

If he was playing with a girl his own age, HE'D be the one going to jail. And possibly her too, if the District Attorney fancied a run at an elected judiciary position.

 

[Dream59]

Here is where we disagree: Just because men are victimized by a corrupt system heavily influenced by religious bigots is no reason why women should be subjected to the same abuse.

The whole issue is so fraught with hysteria NOBODY is going to get a fair trial. It's more of your lovely Puritanical heritage. Europeans do not think this way, nor do most people anywhere.

I wish somebody who lives in a place where they aren't brainwashed from birth would weigh in here. But they're probably too busy laughing about how the stupid Americans are screwing themselves. Again.

You are assuming that because I want fairness, i.e. equality in sentencing, that I think the sentences are fair. I think that even if a person is below the age of consent, if no force was used and consent received that the sentences should be much reduced. But until that time, if a man fucking a 12 y/o girl is a pedophile subject to life, then a woman fucking a 12 y/o is a pedophile and should be subject to the same thing. You can not apply different definitions to the same crime and then call it fair. There is really no need to disparage peoples faith in this. There are non Christians that believe the same.

 

[Dream59]

If he was playing with a girl his own age, HE'D be the one going to jail. And possibly her too, if the District Attorney fancied a run at an elected judiciary position.

This is not true. In every jurisdiction that I know of there has to be a separation of age. It varies from 2-4 years depending upon the jurisdiction but if two 12 y/o children engage in sex, neither will be charged if no force was used.

 

[RjThoughts]

This is not true. In every jurisdiction that I know of there has to be a separation of age. It varies from 2-4 years depending upon the jurisdiction but if two 12 y/o children engage in sex, neither will be charged if no force was used.

These pedophiles and hebephiles haven't a clue as to their condoning illegal sexual and predatory behavior. They're declaring open season on 12-year-old boys.

 

[Dream59]

These pedophiles and hebephiles haven't a clue as to their condoning illegal sexual and predatory behavior. They're declaring open season on 12-year-old boys.

12 y/o girls will not be far behind. They forget the science that says girls mature both mentally and physically faster than boys. This being the case if it is ok to have sex with a 12 y/o boy then it certainly should be ok with a more mature 12 y/o girl. A pedophile is a pedophile and they need to be in prison if it can be proven.

 

[jacktar48]

This is not true. In every jurisdiction that I know of there has to be a separation of age. It varies from 2-4 years depending upon the jurisdiction but if two 12 y/o children engage in sex, neither will be charged if no force was used.

Now you know of one...


Arizona Penal Code:

A. Age of Consent/ Voluntary Sex Between Minors

Children under 15 years of age are unable to consent to sexual conduct regardless of the age of the defendant. Individuals who are at least 15 years of age and less than 18 years of age are unable to consent to sexual conduct unless the defendant is: (1)less than 19 years of age or still attending high school and (2) no more than 2 years older than the victim.

Definition of Offenses

Sexual abuse: Sexual contact with someone less than 15 years of age if the sexual contact involves only the female breast where the defendant is not the victim’s spouse.

Molestation of a child: Sexual contact, except sexual contact with the female breast, with someone less than 15 years of age.

Sexual conduct with a minor: Sexual intercourse or oral sexual contact with someone less than 15 years of age where the defendant is not the victim’s spouse.

Sexual intercourse or oral sexual contact with someone at least 15 years of age and less than 18 years of age where the defendant is at least 19 years of age, not attending high school, at least 2 years older than the victim, and not the victim’s spouse.

And another...

California Penal Code

A. Statutory Rape—Criminal Offenses

An individual less than 18 years of age is unable to consent to sexual intercourse unless he or she is married to the defendant.

Definition of Offenses

Unlawful sexual intercourse: Sexual intercourse with someone less than 18 years of age where the defendant is not the victim’s spouse.

Unlawful oral copulation: Oral copulation with someone less than 18 years of age.

Lewd or lascivious acts upon a child: Committing lewd or lascivious acts with or upon someone less than 14 years of age.

Committing lewd or lascivious acts with or upon someone at least 14 years of age and less than 16 years of age where the defendant is at least 10 years older than the victim.

Sexual penetration: Engaging in the act of sexual penetration with someone less than 14 years of age where the defendant is more than 10 years older than the victim.

There are plenty more. And there are cases where both parties have been charged. I don't have access to Lexus-Nexus and I don't feel like looking them up anyway. But I presume you get the point.

Interestingly, there are references to "the female breast" in the Arizona Code. Shouldn't the "male breast" be equally sacrosanct by your standards?

 

[Wanderer0327]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...red-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content

High-Risk Sex. The earlier a child is exposed to sexual content and begins having sex, the likelier they are to engage in high-risk sex. Research shows that children who have sex by age 13 are more likely to have multiple sexual partners, engage in frequent intercourse, have unprotected sex and use drugs or alcohol before sex. In a study by researcher Dr. Jennings Bryant, more than 66 percent of boys and 40 percent of girls reported wanting to try some of the sexual behaviors they saw in the media (and by high school, many had done so), which increases the risk of sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

Sex, Love and Relationship Addictions. Not every child who is exposed to sexual content will struggle with a mental health disorder, but research shows that early exposure to pornography is a risk factor for sex addictions and other intimacy disorders. In one study of 932 sex addicts, 90 percent of men and 77 percent of women reported that pornography was a factor in their addiction. With the widespread availability of explicit material on the Internet, these problems are becoming more prevalent and are surfacing at younger ages.

Sexual Violence. According to some studies, early exposure (by age 14) to pornography and other explicit material may increase the risk of a child becoming a victim of sexual violence or acting out sexually against another child. For some people, habitual use of pornography may prompt a desire for more violent or deviant material, including depictions of rape, torture or humiliation. If people seek to act out what they see, they may be more likely to commit sexual assault, rape or child molestation.

This barely scratches the surface.

I notice my earlier question has been ignored. How many of you who claim no harm is done have kids or helped raise any kids? My guess is you don't and haven't. All it takes is a little familiarity with raising children to know that a 12-yr old boy can't handle the emotional impact of sex at that age.