More from the Religion of Peace

[Boxlicker101]

This is the latest activity of adherents to the Religion of Peace.

http://news.yahoo.com/gunmen-kill-least-33-raid-baghdad-complex-203144904.html

I presume most or all the victims were Muslims.

 

[LadyVer]

None of the three major Abrahamic religions have been entirely peaceful. There are those who like to think only one of the three is the one true religion of peace, but that's wishful thinking. Each has a history of blood baths. And each currently have those who would like to annihilate the other. None of them appear too peaceful, historically or currently.

 

[nowisthetime]

I'm so sick of these anti-Islam articles posted by right wingers. And you wonder why it is so difficult to have a civil discourse with you all because you are so vindictive of your hatred of the other. What is the point of posting this article? To say hey they are a bunch of violent schmucks? Who are you convincing? You're almost like a mini Bunny slippers in that aspect on your obsession with Islam.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What's this even got to do with Islam?

 

[CandiCame]

Are Muslim Americans going around cutting folks head off? No. So sick of these anti-Islam articles posted by right wingers. And you wonder why it is so difficult to have a civil discourse with you all because you are so vindictive of your hatred of the other. What is the point of posting this article? To say hey they are a bunch of violent schmucks? Who are you convincing?

Ok, not for nothing but... why is it the 'decapitation' part that's bad and not the 'killing your spouse' part. Americans kill their spouses all the time, far more than other first world countries. to the point where I believe we've been politely asked internationally not to comment on spousal killings until we get our act together.

I mean, you gotta remember that we're the place known for having to implement domestic violence laws to keep women from shooting their abusive husbands. That was the entire point of second wave feminism, but there's still a LOT of very good critique for that system.

I mean, our violent crime rate is increasing at a MUCH, MUCH slower rate than it was even last year (we're down to 0.7%!), even tho the media loves to pretend like we're skyrocketing towards hell. But I still don't think that we're in ANY place to judge. When you live in a place where a 5 year old can shoot a 3 year old because you left your gun out and the police response is, "Meh, whatcha gonna do", you know....

Yeah. I don't want anybody to be in an abusive relationship where they might get murdered. But the likelyhood of the murder isn't really dependent on the religion of the abusive spouse, it's dependent on the fact that you HAVE AN ABUSIVE SPOUSE. And so many people focus on the method; like a bullet through the brain is gonna make you any less dead than a decapitation.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl10.xls
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2012-crime-statistics
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/mf.pdf

 

[dolf]

recent disgustingly irresponsible acts by british muslims...

140 british imams sign an open letter, urging young muslims not to fly to Syria or Iraq to involve themselves in conflict, but rather to remain peaceful and donate towards the refugee effort.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28182206

 

[nowisthetime]

recent disgustingly irresponsible acts by british muslims...

140 british imams sign an open letter, urging young muslims not to fly to Syria or Iraq to involve themselves in conflict, but rather to remain peaceful and donate towards the refugee effort.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28182206

Yes, those violent cretins! Ughh!

 

[dolf]

Yes, those violent cretins! Ughh!

see how they terrorise the peaceful natives though!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-16098897

the police roundly criticise the muslims:

"The community around this area have been an absolute credit. They've acted with such restraint and so dignified in the face of such provocation."

 

[nowisthetime]

see how they terrorise the peaceful natives though!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-16098897

the police roundly criticise the muslims:

FUCKING SAVAGES!!

 

[dolf]

FUCKING SAVAGES!!

clearly they are all the same. clearly the leadership make no effort to dissuade radical, violent elements.

 

[Boxlicker101]

see how they terrorise the peaceful natives though!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-16098897

the police roundly criticise the muslims:

So, how does this compare with blowing up the subways during the busiest time of day?

I do know there are British imams urging their followers to make jihad against the West. Was this mosque the home of one of those imams?

 

[Boxlicker101]

recent disgustingly irresponsible acts by british muslims...

140 british imams sign an open letter, urging young muslims not to fly to Syria or Iraq to involve themselves in conflict, but rather to remain peaceful and donate towards the refugee effort.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28182206

That's easy enough to do. Now, what do they do at other times? Are they telling their followers to make jihad against the West as some British imams do.

 

[Boxlicker101]

None of the three major Abrahamic religions have been entirely peaceful. There are those who like to think only one of the three is the one true religion of peace, but that's wishful thinking. Each has a history of blood baths. And each currently have those who would like to annihilate the other. None of them appear too peaceful, historically or currently.

I agree with what you say about history but nobody but Muslims are committing atrocities on a vast scale, neither now nor in the recent past. Don't forget about Darfur.

 

[CandiCame]

I just want to go on record saying that pretty much all religious people are super annoying, regardless of how murderous they are. And I SUSPECT that the only reason US Muslims aren't as annoying as US Christians is that they know if they up the annoyance factor they'll get persecuted. So I'm not, in any way, pro religion, but this whole pretending Islam is the worst thing ever is about as stupid as your "I like to lick vaginas but I have no idea how they work" think. Like... google is your friend.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The question most people ask themselves is this: WHO'S MOST LIKELY TO CUT MY HEAD OFF FOR THE HELL OF IT? Muslim wins every time. Its the religion all the feral 3rd world niggers embrace. LADY VER talks out her ass cuz there's no way she'd submit to Muslim principles and practices. Or maybe she's crazy as a shit house rat, hard to tell.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I just want to go on record saying that pretty much all religious people are super annoying, regardless of how murderous they are. And I SUSPECT that the only reason US Muslims aren't as annoying as US Christians is that they know if they up the annoyance factor they'll get persecuted. So I'm not, in any way, pro religion, but this whole pretending Islam is the worst thing ever is about as stupid as your "I like to lick vaginas but I have no idea how they work" think. Like... google is your friend.

Muslims would grill your faggot ass in no time.

 

[CandiCame]

Muslims would grill your faggot ass in no time.

They would. Pretty much any major religion would. That's why most of our anti-gay hate crimes in the US come from bible thumping Christians. Which is ALSO why playing this "Who's worse" thing doesn't make a goddamn bit of sense if you're the one about to get lynched. The Christian and the Muslim guys are BOTH looking at a fag. So they can both fuck off. Equally.

 

[nowisthetime]

The U.S. should be more fearful of domestic terrorism from right wingnuts than from Abdul and 'em.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/03/11/lone-wolves-a-recent-history-of-violent-right-w/182135

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/opinion/bergen-sterman-kansas-shooting/

 

[Porkwarrior]

Multiculturalism is as failed a social engineering construct as bicycle lanes.

 

[CandiCame]

The U.S. should be more fearful of domestic terrorism from right wingnuts than from Abdul and 'em.

Current statistics say that even with our glorious religious freedom I've still got a 1 in 6 chance of a hate crime if anybody ever finds out. So... yeah. If we could make that not happen that'd be pretty chill.

 

[CandiCame]

Multiculturalism is as failed a social engineering construct as bicycle lanes.

...that's probably accurate but not for the reasons that you want it to be. That's like this shirt I have that says, "Same sex marriage is gay".

 

[Sean Renaud]

I agree with what you say about history but nobody but Muslims are committing atrocities on a vast scale, neither now nor in the recent past. Don't forget about Darfur.

The Iraqis and Afghanis would beg to differ. What your complaining about is that since we have a big ass army that our acts are somehow less horrific than people who lack the means to fight us head on. If it was Osama sending drones to kill American generals and Senators instead of Obama sending them after Al Qaeda leaders would you be saying the same thing?

Note: Disgusted that Obama does that, there's just limited point in crying about it all day.

 

[CandiCame]

The Iraqis and Afghanis would beg to differ. What your complaining about is that since we have a big ass army that our acts are somehow less horrific than people who lack the means to fight us head on. If it was Osama sending drones to kill American generals and Senators instead of Obama sending them after Al Qaeda leaders would you be saying the same thing?

Note: Disgusted that Obama does that, there's just limited point in crying about it all day.

God most Americans are so far removed from the shit we do it embarrasses the hell out of me. Don't bring shit like that up. We've just kind of communally agreed that we don't talk about the ways in which we've fucked up. Hitler Bad, Rhodes good- even tho Rhodes killed more people, we still want our kids to aspire to becoming a Rhodes scholar. Just like how even tho the countries screaming 'Death to America" are the one's we've fucked over, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT SHIT, SEAN.

 

[LadyVer]

I agree with what you say about history but nobody but Muslims are committing atrocities on a vast scale, neither now nor in the recent past. Don't forget about Darfur.

I disagree with you about vast scales. First, the history of all three major religions is full of atrocities, some great and some small throughout their history. The most recent major atrocity of the modern age by Christians was in Germany in World War II. And if you think that was all about Nazis taking over the world, you need to do some reading. That Christians aren't currently committing the numbers of mass murders that Muslims are does not mean that given a chance they wouldn't. American Christians are responsible for implementing death and imprisonment sentences for gays in Uganda. And American dominionists are just waiting for the right time to take over the world in fulfillment of the second coming of Christ, and their plan is to imprison or kill everyone who doesn't agree with them or live the way they think they should.

If it makes you feel more secure or superior to point out the extremists in one religion while ignoring the extremists in others, you're not doing anything different than a lot of other people.

 

[dolf]

we've suffered vastly more terrorism & violence from ira.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

growing up here, I have far more reason to fear and hate catholics.
...and America for funding the ira, a known terrorist organisation.