FAWC 5: Line, Please!

[FAWCker]

That's so sweet. He sent that to you? On a particular story, or just to you?

Also, oh ringmaster, do you comment and such or does knowing the authors preclude you from such festivities? Are you perhaps waiting to do so?

That was just a general feedback sent to this email.

I do comment, but I have a PowerPoint presentation to compile and a report to finish before I can relax enough to devote time to the stories. So, probably a couple of days before I'll join in.

FAWC 6: All's Well That Ends Well

Anybody can use a prompt to start a story, but can you build up enough bad will in your narrative to end this way?

I'll file that away for future FAWCs

 

[sheablue]

FAWC 6: All's Well That Ends Well

Anybody can use a prompt to start a story, but can you build up enough bad will in your narrative to end this way?

You hush your mouth, there, missy! But wait, that kind of gives me an idea ...

 

[jomar]

Sure is taking a long time for the scores to update.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

FAWC 5: The Motel 6 Collection.

 

[Saxon_Hart]

FAWC 5: The Motel 6 Collection.

Come on Jimmy...There have to be a few that are LaQuinta Inn worthy.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Come on Jimmy...There have to be a few that are LaQuinta Inn worthy.

Last time, when I called the gay romance THE PICK OF THE LITTER, no one whined about how it was a rush to judgment. There are no good ones this time. The Civil War tale woulda been a contender if the writer wasn't so inept at collecting the facts...its an inaccurate circle jerk.

 

[SecondCircle]

I uh, I think we get it Jimbo. The stories are piles of filth not even worthy of amateurs, of whom are all delusional enough to compliment one another and award reach arounds on each other's stories. They are bland, unimaginative, scatter brained messes with hardly any brilliance to them.

Yah. Got it. The first seven hundred and fifty fucking thousand times. It's fine to speak your mind and lay down some hard truth, or opinion if you will, but we see you. You don't need to keep waving your hands and shouting about blood pressure. If you think they suck, we accept that. If you think they're good, we accept that.

To use a little of your flavor "bitching that FAWC stories, written by mostly amateur writers, all totally blow is like going to a Chinese joint and bitching that there are no vegan dishes or low carb meals." Or something like that. I lack the mustache and disgruntled expression.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

Or something like that. I lack the mustache and disgruntled expression.

No worries, SC. Walmart is having a sale on canned wisdom. Where do you think JBJ gets his?

I don't even mind his kvetching. But if you're going to bitch, break the shit down, story by story. Don't give me this "Crap...Crap...Irradiated crap...Crap..Oooh, wait...nevermind. Crap."

 

[drteetho]

I uh, I think we get it Jimbo. The stories are piles of filth not even worthy of amateurs, of whom are all delusional enough to compliment one another and award reach arounds on each other's stories. They are bland, unimaginative, scatter brained messes with hardly any brilliance to them.

Yah. Got it. The first seven hundred and fifty fucking thousand times. It's fine to speak your mind and lay down some hard truth, or opinion if you will, but we see you. You don't need to keep waving your hands and shouting about blood pressure. If you think they suck, we accept that. If you think they're good, we accept that.

To use a little of your flavor "bitching that FAWC stories, written by mostly amateur writers, all totally blow is like going to a Chinese joint and bitching that there are no vegan dishes or low carb meals." Or something like that. I lack the mustache and disgruntled expression.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone gives this clown the time of day. He thinks he's this great gift to mankind but I don't think he knows shit. He's either a real racist, sexist, misogynist asshole, or he's just an asshole that wants us to think he's racist, sexist and misogynist, because, I don't know, it's edgy or some shit. Both are worthy of contempt.

If other people like him or think he has something worthwhile to say, that's fine, I won't judge, and I don't expect to change people's minds on him just because I find him disgusting.

For me, I'm putting him on ignore and not thinking twice. I'll be damned if I'm going to let him ruin my experience here. Especially when just about everyone else who posts here seems like a genuinely good person.

 

[FAWCker]

Every post in response to him just encourages him. Food for thought.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I uh, I think we get it Jimbo. The stories are piles of filth not even worthy of amateurs, of whom are all delusional enough to compliment one another and award reach arounds on each other's stories. They are bland, unimaginative, scatter brained messes with hardly any brilliance to them.

Yah. Got it. The first seven hundred and fifty fucking thousand times. It's fine to speak your mind and lay down some hard truth, or opinion if you will, but we see you. You don't need to keep waving your hands and shouting about blood pressure. If you think they suck, we accept that. If you think they're good, we accept that.

To use a little of your flavor "bitching that FAWC stories, written by mostly amateur writers, all totally blow is like going to a Chinese joint and bitching that there are no vegan dishes or low carb meals." Or something like that. I lack the mustache and disgruntled expression.

You seem to get it faster than the others. Good job.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Honestly, I don't know why anyone gives this clown the time of day. He thinks he's this great gift to mankind but I don't think he knows shit. He's either a real racist, sexist, misogynist asshole, or he's just an asshole that wants us to think he's racist, sexist and misogynist, because, I don't know, it's edgy or some shit. Both are worthy of contempt.

If other people like him or think he has something worthwhile to say, that's fine, I won't judge, and I don't expect to change people's minds on him just because I find him disgusting.

For me, I'm putting him on ignore and not thinking twice. I'll be damned if I'm going to let him ruin my experience here. Especially when just about everyone else who posts here seems like a genuinely good person.

All of the above.

Caveat: These good people will fuck you in the ass if they can.

 

[patientlee]

All of the above.

Caveat: These good people will fuck you in the ass if they can.

Yeah. Let me run right out and buy me a strap on. As soon as I get this house off me.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yeah. Let me run right out and buy me a strap on. As soon as I get this house off me.

Speak of the Devil. I was thinking of you. Did you write that fucked up Civil War story? It has your aroma on it.

 

[patientlee]

Speak of the Devil. I was thinking of you. Did you write that fucked up Civil War story? It has your aroma on it.

Mine's much worse.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mine's much worse.

Its an incredible batch of omega mu.

 

[stlgoddessfreya]

Last time, when I called the gay romance THE PICK OF THE LITTER, no one whined about how it was a rush to judgment. There are no good ones this time. The Civil War tale woulda been a contender if the writer wasn't so inept at collecting the facts...its an inaccurate circle jerk.

I'm surprised no one who's got more interest in military history than me has picked this up. You've cited inaccuracies in the surgical scenes a couple of times now as the fatal flaw in that story.

The Minie ball was a conically tipped round, not a fully conical one, with rifling around the bottom to give it better accuracy at range, unlike the main alternative during the American Civil War, the spherical musket ball. They're about as long as the distance between the first joint and tip of your thumb. The softer lead composition of the Minie ball did lead it to cause many more limb amputations than previous types of ammunition because it would deform and spread out on impact with something dense, like wood or bone. I once saw a photograph of a Minie ball exit wound in the back of a torso that you could put a man's fist into. They were really nasty, and if they hit a head or torso, there was very little chance of survival. If they hit an arm or leg bone, they usually did so much damage that amputation was necessary. They were just bullets, though, which means they could only do what physics allows. They didn't always hit bone and didn't deform the same way if they just sunk into flesh, because it's not as resistant as bone. A lot of people left the Civil War with bullets still inside them because the Surgeon General recommended leaving them if taking them out was going to be more dangerous. Here's a great article that addresses Civil War medical reality:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/under-the-knife/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Of the 250 wounded Confederate generals, 24 needed amputations. That's a lot by today's standards of warfare, but when you consider how far away a Union soldier would have to be to hit a General and that the Union had the Minie ball first and more extensively, that must mean a lot of generals got shot with Minie balls and didn't lose an arm or leg.

Louis Pasteur's germ experiments began in 1860, and were based on sanitation routines that had been in practice since the Napoleonic and Crimean Wars. He invented neither the idea of surface-borne contaminants leading to disease nor heat sterilization, but he did make them much more widely accepted by the wider medical community. Flame sterilization of surgical instruments was a common pre-medieval practice. That's how Pasteur knew where to start with his heat-based antimicrobial process, pasteurization.

 

[_Lynn_]

Yeah. Let me run right out and buy me a strap on. As soon as I get this house off me.

Wanna borrow mine? I could send it, as soon as I get the house off me, that is.

 

[patientlee]

Wanna borrow mine? I could send it, as soon as I get the house off me, that is.

Yeah. But I still get to keep the shoes!

 

[_Lynn_]

Yeah. But I still get to keep the shoes!

Keep the shoes. I have the leather boots.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm surprised no one who's got more interest in military history than me has picked this up. You've cited inaccuracies in the surgical scenes a couple of times now as the fatal flaw in that story.

The Minie ball was a conically tipped round, not a fully conical one, with rifling around the bottom to give it better accuracy at range, unlike the main alternative during the American Civil War, the spherical musket ball. They're about as long as the distance between the first joint and tip of your thumb. The softer lead composition of the Minie ball did lead it to cause many more limb amputations than previous types of ammunition because it would deform and spread out on impact with something dense, like wood or bone. I once saw a photograph of a Minie ball exit wound in the back of a torso that you could put a man's fist into. They were really nasty, and if they hit a head or torso, there was very little chance of survival. If they hit an arm or leg bone, they usually did so much damage that amputation was necessary. They were just bullets, though, which means they could only do what physics allows. They didn't always hit bone and didn't deform the same way if they just sunk into flesh, because it's not as resistant as bone. A lot of people left the Civil War with bullets still inside them because the Surgeon General recommended leaving them if taking them out was going to be more dangerous. Here's a great article that addresses Civil War medical reality:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/under-the-knife/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Of the 250 wounded Confederate generals, 24 needed amputations. That's a lot by today's standards of warfare, but when you consider how far away a Union soldier would have to be to hit a General and that the Union had the Minie ball first and more extensively, that must mean a lot of generals got shot with Minie balls and didn't lose an arm or leg.

Louis Pasteur's germ experiments began in 1860, and were based on sanitation routines that had been in practice since the Napoleonic and Crimean Wars. He invented neither the idea of surface-borne contaminants leading to disease nor heat sterilization, but he did make them much more widely accepted by the wider medical community. Flame sterilization of surgical instruments was a common pre-medieval practice. That's how Pasteur knew where to start with his heat-based antimicrobial process, pasteurization.

Nonsense. Surgeons routinely ignored anti-septic precautions until the 20th Century. I wish I could recall the name of the John Hopkins surgeon who hadda raise hell with all the surgeons he trained, to make them wash their hands. But no one practiced sterilization in the Civil War. Pasteur made the connection between sanitation and the spread of disease by physicians unclean hands.

 

[Swilly]

Yeah. Let me run right out and buy me a strap on. As soon as I get this house off me.

You should have bought one with the Valentine's story winnings, pl. You never know when you'll need one!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

William Stewart Halstead MD Johns Hopkins

Thanks largely to Halsted, surgeons worldwide began wearing gloves during operations. That shift came about after one of his nurses - Caroline Hampton, whom he later married - complained that the mercuric chloride she was supposed to wash with gave her a rash. He asked the Goodyear Rubber Co. to try to make two pairs of thin rubber gloves to protect her hands. His surgical assistants were quick converts and began to wear them during operations, swearing that the gloves made them more dextrous. The idea that the gloves also might help in germ control actually didn't occur to any of them for years, which Halsted remarked on, somewhat bemused, long after.

"Operating in gloves was an evolution rather than an inspiration or happy thought," Halsted said, "and it is remarkable that during the four or five years when as operator I wore them only occasionally, we could have been so blind as not to have perceived the necessity for wearing them invariably at the operating table."

http://www.medicalarchives.jhmi.edu/halsted/hbio.htm

 

[sr71plt]

I'm surprised no one who's got more interest in military history than me has picked this up. You've cited inaccuracies in the surgical scenes a couple of times now as the fatal flaw in that story.

The Minie ball was a conically tipped round, not a fully conical one, with rifling around the bottom to give it better accuracy at range, unlike the main alternative during the American Civil War, the spherical musket ball. They're about as long as the distance between the first joint and tip of your thumb. The softer lead composition of the Minie ball did lead it to cause many more limb amputations than previous types of ammunition because it would deform and spread out on impact with something dense, like wood or bone. I once saw a photograph of a Minie ball exit wound in the back of a torso that you could put a man's fist into. They were really nasty, and if they hit a head or torso, there was very little chance of survival. If they hit an arm or leg bone, they usually did so much damage that amputation was necessary. They were just bullets, though, which means they could only do what physics allows. They didn't always hit bone and didn't deform the same way if they just sunk into flesh, because it's not as resistant as bone. A lot of people left the Civil War with bullets still inside them because the Surgeon General recommended leaving them if taking them out was going to be more dangerous. Here's a great article that addresses Civil War medical reality:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/under-the-knife/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Of the 250 wounded Confederate generals, 24 needed amputations. That's a lot by today's standards of warfare, but when you consider how far away a Union soldier would have to be to hit a General and that the Union had the Minie ball first and more extensively, that must mean a lot of generals got shot with Minie balls and didn't lose an arm or leg.

Louis Pasteur's germ experiments began in 1860, and were based on sanitation routines that had been in practice since the Napoleonic and Crimean Wars. He invented neither the idea of surface-borne contaminants leading to disease nor heat sterilization, but he did make them much more widely accepted by the wider medical community. Flame sterilization of surgical instruments was a common pre-medieval practice. That's how Pasteur knew where to start with his heat-based antimicrobial process, pasteurization.

Or you could read the story as one of a relationship developing out of danger and a reason for enmity and not get hung up in the anal-retentive technical minutia.

And you could consider that JBJ is purposely ignoring the forest for the individual trees just to be JBJ.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Or you could read the story as one of a relationship developing out of danger and a reason for enmity and not get hung up in the anal-retentive technical minutia.

http://ehistory.osu.edu/uscw/features/medicine/cwsurgeon/amputations.cfm

Here yuh go Nimrod. Pay attention to the bit about Joseph Lister and antiseptic battlefield surgery starting in 1865. Oh shit! The civil war was over by then.