my story has been removed

[sleepy_moose]

I'm trying to collect my thoughts before I try and resubmit. I wrote my first story and submitted the first part. after many rejections it finally got approved but it was placed in the wrong category. so I decided to submit an edit to get it moved and to add "Ch 01" to the title because readers were confused. I was rejected and here's the rejection


"While we do accept submissions with graphic violence, we don't accept "snuff" - i.e. death & extreme torture with the aim of sexual titillation. We generally do not accept submissions of nonconsensual sex in which the "victim" gets absolutely no sort of thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and /or permanently physically harmed/abused. "


Some of you had the opportunity to read it before it was removed. It was called The Darkroom and was placed in Non-erotic. I need some help because there is absolutely no one in this story who is getting sexual gratification from the murder at the beginning and also I know my "victim" was reluctant to do what he wanted but she consented to be there. at any time she could have left. she also does enjoy portions of what he does.

I could also do a keyword search and find stories about murder, torture, and noncon that is more rape like than anything I've written. so how should I go about this? I want to be respectful to the process but I'm really mad. My whole argument of why my story should be accepted hinges on the fact that there are others with worse stories. I don't feel comfortable pointing to any specific stories in my rebuttal because I don't want to get those authors removed.

my other problem is that this story was originally approved and it was only removed when I submitted to have it moved to the right category. I submitted the exact same story. I didn't change a single word and now its unacceptable? this is what I wrote in the comments section to explain which edits I was submitting.

"I believe that my story was posted to the wrong category. It was posted to Non Erotic and I believe that it should be in NonCon Reluctance. There is a reluctance scene near the end that could be ill received by the non erotic audience. I realize that this part is more of a build up and not a full on stroke story. I have edited the title to reflect that this is just the introduction. "


I got the 2nd part back this week from my editor and I'm almost finished with the third. Should I wait and submit the whole thing at once? I honestly feel like there is no point of finishing since there is no audience that will be able to read it. During the time it was posted it got good reviews. A 4.06 is not spectacular but it shows that there were those who were reading it.

I'm really not sure how to move forward. Do I try again or just give it up and back down? I know its not a big deal that one story doesn't get published but I feel very cheated. Especially when I read one of the awful 1 and 2 star stories that were deemed more acceptable than mine.

 

[subdued_passion]

I haven't read your story, but, maybe the story got approved in the non-erotic category because the violence was not seen as something meant to titillate like it may in the Non-con category?

 

[StrangeLife]

Laurel is the final arbiter - it's her site and she can decline any story she wants. But she is also a very busy lady and probably doesn't always have the time to dive into the finer nuances of a story. So maybe she misunderstood your intentions. At least the reply you are quoting sounds like their canned "standard reply" (yeah, I kill off people too sometimes, so I've seen it before ).

Try sending her a pm with a request for re-evaluation and explain why the killing is needed in your story. She is usually very receptive if you have a good argumentation.

 

[lovecraft68]

This site is run not on rules, but whims. It is not about being busy and interpretation. The site is full of rape and torture stories as my recent "But lit does not allow rape stories" thread proves.

So the rejection should read "Lit does allow rape stories, I mean we have a non consent section, but I did not like YOUR rape story"

Sleepy, please do not take offense to this, but man you have had it rough here. Rejections, hassles etc....

I would try another site and I am not saying that to be a jerk. It just seems you have somehow "made the list"

 

[DeYaKen]

I'm trying to collect my thoughts before I try and resubmit. I wrote my first story and submitted the first part. after many rejections it finally got approved but it was placed in the wrong category. so I decided to submit an edit to get it moved and to add "Ch 01" to the title because readers were confused. I was rejected and here's the rejection


"While we do accept submissions with graphic violence, we don't accept "snuff" - i.e. death & extreme torture with the aim of sexual titillation. We generally do not accept submissions of nonconsensual sex in which the "victim" gets absolutely no sort of thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and /or permanently physically harmed/abused. "


Some of you had the opportunity to read it before it was removed. It was called The Darkroom and was placed in Non-erotic. I need some help because there is absolutely no one in this story who is getting sexual gratification from the murder at the beginning and also I know my "victim" was reluctant to do what he wanted but she consented to be there. at any time she could have left. she also does enjoy portions of what he does.

I could also do a keyword search and find stories about murder, torture, and noncon that is more rape like than anything I've written. so how should I go about this? I want to be respectful to the process but I'm really mad. My whole argument of why my story should be accepted hinges on the fact that there are others with worse stories. I don't feel comfortable pointing to any specific stories in my rebuttal because I don't want to get those authors removed.

my other problem is that this story was originally approved and it was only removed when I submitted to have it moved to the right category. I submitted the exact same story. I didn't change a single word and now its unacceptable? this is what I wrote in the comments section to explain which edits I was submitting.

"I believe that my story was posted to the wrong category. It was posted to Non Erotic and I believe that it should be in NonCon Reluctance. There is a reluctance scene near the end that could be ill received by the non erotic audience. I realize that this part is more of a build up and not a full on stroke story. I have edited the title to reflect that this is just the introduction. "


I got the 2nd part back this week from my editor and I'm almost finished with the third. Should I wait and submit the whole thing at once? I honestly feel like there is no point of finishing since there is no audience that will be able to read it. During the time it was posted it got good reviews. A 4.06 is not spectacular but it shows that there were those who were reading it.

I'm really not sure how to move forward. Do I try again or just give it up and back down? I know its not a big deal that one story doesn't get published but I feel very cheated. Especially when I read one of the awful 1 and 2 star stories that were deemed more acceptable than mine.

As I understand it your story was accepted and posted in Non-Erotic, then it was taken down, supposedly, for the reasons you were given.

This means that it was evaluated and accepted as having complied with the guidelines, then later it was decided that it breached the same guidelines used to approve it. The reason we are given for it taking upto 9 days to post a story is that Laurel has to read and approve all the stories. Hmm doesn't seem to work does it?

I had exactly the same problem. My story Smoking Kills was taken down a couple of weeks after it was posted. Mine was because of a complaint by someone called frontlinecaster who alleged that it was a snuff story, which, using the criteria she gave you, it wasn't.

In my case it was due to that one report by someone who has since revealed that he/she only registered with Lit in order to `clean up' certain categories.

My guess is that you fell foul of either frontlinecaster using one of their many aliases or someone else with a similar view.

My advice would be to cut your losses. Move your story to Storiesonline where complaints are investigated more meticulously. You will also not have to nominate a category to fit it into.

It is sad that it has come to this, perhaps lit is getting too big to be run by just two people.

 

[Laurel]

This means that it was evaluated and accepted as having complied with the guidelines, then later it was decided that it breached the same guidelines used to approve it. The reason we are given for it taking upto 9 days to post a story is that Laurel has to read and approve all the stories. Hmm doesn't seem to work does it?

Actually, the wait for text story approval has been less than 3 days for the past month.

In fact, most days it is less than 48 hours.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=981222

If you or someone you know is waiting 9 days for a story to post, then they should check to see if they've actually submitted it.

 

[Laurel]

Laurel is the final arbiter - it's her site and she can decline any story she wants. But she is also a very busy lady and probably doesn't always have the time to dive into the finer nuances of a story. So maybe she misunderstood your intentions. At least the reply you are quoting sounds like their canned "standard reply" (yeah, I kill off people too sometimes, so I've seen it before ).

Try sending her a pm with a request for re-evaluation and explain why the killing is needed in your story. She is usually very receptive if you have a good argumentation.

This.

You can also request that your story category be changed. Submit a story with the title "[[STORYTITLE]] CATEGORY CHANGE". In the NOTES field, let me know to what category you'd like the story to be transferred and why you believe it is a better fit for that category. If we agree with your reasoning, we will happily move it.

We will generally move stories if:
- the other category is a better fit
- the story contains content that make it ill-advised for the current category

We will not move stories:
- the story's score is more likely to be on the Top Lists in the new category
- any reason that does not relate to readers

If you have any specific questions, feel free to drop me a PM anytime.

 

[sr71plt]

"CATEGORY CHANGE" won't fit behind most titles of stories. Some are hard pressed to fit "EDIT" behind the title, as they have noted in posts to the forum.

 

[lovecraft68]

"CATEGORY CHANGE" won't fit behind most titles of stories. Some are hard pressed to fit "EDIT" behind the title, as they have noted in posts to the forum.

You're right it would not fit next to a title

But try reading her post

It says put category change in the NOTES FIELD.

This.

You can also request that your story category be changed. Submit a story with the title "[[STORYTITLE]] CATEGORY CHANGE". In the NOTES field

For an alleged professional editor you seem to miss a lot when you read.

 

[Aynmair]

I beg to differ

You're right it would not fit next to a title

But try reading her post

It says put category change in the NOTES FIELD.



For an alleged professional editor you seem to miss a lot when you read.

This.

You can also request that your story category be changed. Submit a story with the title "[[STORYTITLE]] CATEGORY CHANGE". In the NOTES field, let me know to what category you'd like the story .....:

Sorry, LC - follow the punctuation carefully. IMHO, Pilot is right. But the OP could add CAT after his title and explain in Notes.

 

[lovecraft68]

Sorry, LC - follow the punctuation carefully. IMHO, Pilot is right. But the OP could add CAT after his title and explain in Notes.

Of course in your opinion. he is right

But coming from someone who has requested things in the past it goes in the notes field.

Wipe the shit off your nose, you're pathetic.

BTW, find me yet?

I know you haven't. The only people you find are the ones who feed you things to tell people.

sad little games that go on in this place.

 

[Aynmair]

Of course in your opinion. he is right

But coming from someone who has requested things in the past it goes in the notes field.

Wipe the shit off your nose, you're pathetic.

BTW, find me yet?

I know you haven't. The only people you find are the ones who feed you things to tell people.

sad little games that go on in this place.

Get the stick out of your butt, dude.

 

[Laurel]

"CATEGORY CHANGE" won't fit behind most titles of stories. Some are hard pressed to fit "EDIT" behind the title, as they have noted in posts to the forum.

This is true. If that is the case, you can also just put
"[[STORYTITLE]] CAT CHANGE"
or
"CATEGORY CHANGE"
or
"NOTE FOR LAUREL"
or
"EDIT"
or
something to let me know that it is not a story submission, but a request for me.

However, if you do this, be sure to mention the title of the story somewhere in the NOTES field.

 

[sr71plt]

My, LC is on a nasty little rampage today, isn't he? Forced to work in the warehouse over the holiday weekend, I take it(?)

 

[Laurel]

For an alleged professional editor you seem to miss a lot when you read.

1) I am not, nor have ever claimed to be, a professional editor.

2) I've read what I wrote three times now and don't know what you're referring to.

3) The "following me around and yelling at me furiously in every thread no matter what the topic" thing that you do - is it my perfume? The way I walk? Did someone named Laurel wrong you at some point? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[sr71plt]

He was referring to me, Laurel. This is one of his "stalking SR71PLT" days.

 

[Aynmair]

1) I am not, nor have ever claimed to be, a professional editor.

2) I've read what I wrote three times now and don't know what you're referring to.

3) The "following me around and yelling at me furiously in every thread no matter what the topic" thing that you do - is it my perfume? The way I walk? Did someone named Laurel wrong you at some point? I'm genuinely curious.

LC was responding to sr71plt. They set each other off like fireworks on the 4th of July. Watch out for collateral damage.

 

[Laurel]

LC was responding to sr71plt. They set each other off like fireworks on the 4th of July. Watch out for collateral damage.

He was referring to me, Laurel. This is one of his "stalking SR71PLT" days.

Oh!

Okay, nevermind.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzk73nLdXq1qaub4mo1_r1_500.jpg

 

[DeYaKen]

Actually, the wait for text story approval has been less than 3 days for the past month.

In fact, most days it is less than 48 hours.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=981222

If you or someone you know is waiting 9 days for a story to post, then they should check to see if they've actually submitted it.

It is to your credit that the approval time has come down, but you can't deny that over the past year it has gone way beyond what it is now. Indeed there was a thread on this very board devoted to just that.

Your defenders stated that the submissions to the site were many, and that you have to read every story and check it to ensure that it compliance with the guidelines. I think that is quite understandable.

However, I also think the OP has a right to feel aggrieved. He waits for his story to be checked and it is approved as having met the guidelines. Later he finds his story has now been rejected for breaching the guidelines. The story hadn't changed, the guidelines hadn't changed, the only thing that appears to have changed is your mind. I think the OP has a right to know why it changed.

 

[sr71plt]

The OP isn't alone on this issue. Heard from Sabb today that his FAWC 4 story, "Avoiding That Train to Georgia," which went through smoothly for the exercise has gotten rejected for possible underage after it was deleted from the story file and resubmitted under his own name, without any changes. I had edited that story, and the ironic thing is that he originally had the protagonist as eighteen and I suggested the age be changed to twenty-one because my reading of where the protagonist was in life was older than eighteen. Both the original eighteen (which was specified in the story) and the changed twenty-one (which was specified in the story) are clear on age--in addition to the age being at the older end in the mind of the reader/editor.

So what's the upshot? That the quicker processing times now means we need to include an "all are of age" note on all of our stories now, even when we've specified the age in the story (which, of course, those who want to slip in underage can do as well--just post the false note that that fifth-grader is of age)?

 

[slyc_willie]

Get the stick out of your butt, dude.

That's what happens when you throw a fit in a sandbox.

The OP isn't alone on this issue. Heard from Sabb today that his FAWC 4 story, "Avoiding That Train to Georgia," which went through smoothly for the exercise has gotten rejected for possible underage after it was deleted from the story file and resubmitted under his own name, without any changes. I had edited that story, and the ironic thing is that he originally had the protagonist as eighteen and I suggested the age be changed to twenty-one because my reading of where the protagonist was in life was older than eighteen. Both the original eighteen (which was specified in the story) and the changed twenty-one (which was specified in the story) are clear on age--in addition to the age being at the older end in the mind of the reader/editor.

So what's the upshot? That the quicker processing times now means we need to include an "all are of age" note on all of our stories now, even when we've specified the age in the story (which, of course, those who want to slip in underage can do as well--just post the false note that that fifth-grader is of age)?

That's interesting. When I read through it, I didn't see any indication the character might be depicted as being underage. I wonder what caused the hang-up.

 

[Hypoxia]

So what's the upshot? That the quicker processing times now means we need to include an "all are of age" note on all of our stories now, even when we've specified the age in the story (which, of course, those who want to slip in underage can do as well--just post the false note that that fifth-grader is of age)?

Well, some slow, er I mean mentally different, fifth-graders ARE of legal age.

[/me considers writing retard tales, rejects notion]

 

[Zeb_Carter]

My, LC is on a nasty little rampage today, isn't he? Forced to work in the warehouse over the holiday weekend, I take it(?)

Well you do have a very bad habit of not reading the posts you comment about. Many have called you on it before and I'm quite sure many will call you on it in the future.

 

[SecondCircle]

Come to think of it, I had an age issue just recently where it was stated the person(s) in the story were college students, with previous chapters detailing that they were 19 or 20. I just thought that because of the context, that it may have been easily mistaken or give the impression that they were underage. But it does seem like it really has to be stressed now that the characters are of age. More so than it used to.

 

[THROBBS]

Read my story thoroughly!
Post my story faster!
MAKE NO MISTAKES!

Gimme gimme gimme!

I want what I am paying for, right now!


seriously.