Purity Balls

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I read this article Purity Balls - America's virginity obsession and was surprised I had never heard about it before.

The photos I honestly find creepy ...particularly the part about "you are married to the Lord and I am your boyfriend" :rolleyes: It would seem to me this sort of an event would guarantee the daughter would have Daddy issues for life.

There are lots of fathers on this board, and many whom I assume have daughters. Depending on whether or not it is age appropriate, what are you telling your girls about sex? Or are you telling them anything at all? Is it something that is up to their mother to do?

Are you the type standing on the porch with a shotgun, ready to drive the boys off the property, or do you inform her about safe sex and birth control, and hope that she makes good decisions? If you found out she had pre-marital sex, would you be disappointed? Angry?

If you have religiously-driven ideas about chastity and pre-marital sex, would you participate in something like a "purity ball"?


The quote by Elizabeth Smart I found particularly poignant, and unbearably sad. To have your entire self-worth tied into your virginity...:(:(:(

I also find it incredibly ironic that there is no similar "purity ball" for the boys...where the father and/or mother stands beside their son and pledges to help him keep his randy dick out of girls until he is legally wed under God.

And what if there is no father around? Do you get a male relative to stand in, or does the mother take over the God-given role of protector-of-the-pussy?


I vividly remember I was a month shy of twenty when I lost my virginity. A couple of weeks later, my mother searched my purse, (it would seem she must have been doing that regularly) and found my birth control pills. She flung them at me, then slapped my face several times and called me a slut. My father raged, and asked me why I didn't "Just use a candle". (WTF? Is that what the women used for dildos back in the olden days?:confused:) Neither of them even spoke to me for four months, even though I was still living at home at the time. I had to break up with my boyfriend, or they basically were not letting me back in the house. My 20th birthday came and went with no acknowledgement from them. The kicker was, we were not a religious family - AT ALL. I felt like scum, and they treated me as such. I was told no one would ever want me now that I was "used". :(

(As it turned out, this really was not a problem at all...oddly enough.:cool:)

What happens if she falls off the wagon? Does that mean both of them failed in God's eyes? Or perhaps that is when you then become a Born Again Virgin and are reinstated and suddenly regain your self-worth?



The men and girls in the photos hold hands and embrace – the young women are in long white dresses, the men in suits or military regalia. If some of the girls in the pictures weren't so young - Laila and Maya Sa up there are seven and five years old, respectively - the portraits could be mistaken for wedding or prom pictures. What they actually capture, though, are images of those who participate in purity balls – father-daughter dances featuring girls who pledge to remain virgins until marriage and fathers who promise to protect their daughters' chastity.

The images from Swedish photographer David Magnusson's new book, Purity, are beautiful, disturbing and tell a distinctly American story – a story wherein a girl's virginity is held up as a moral ideal above all else, a story in which the most important characteristic of a young woman is whether or not she is sexually active. This narrative of good girls and bad girls, pure girls and dirty girls, is one that follows young women throughout their lives. Purity balls simply lay that dichotomy bare. In a clip from a Nightline Prime episode on these disconcerting events , a father tells his braces-clad daughter, "You are married to the Lord, and your father is your boyfriend." (Update: As part of a purity event over the weekend sponsored by the Las Vegas police department, one of its officers told girls that if they had pre-marital sex they would end up rape victims, gang members, drug addicts or prostitutes.)

While it would be easy to dismiss purity balls as fringe – most American fathers don't require their daughters to pledge their virginity in an elaborate ceremony – the paternalism and fear of female sexuality underlying the events are present throughout American culture. (I wrote about this phenomenon in my 2009 book, The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women.)

The idea of girls' chastity as a mobilizing force in culture and politics may feel like a throwback, but it's something that still tangibly impacts thousands upon thousands of modern women – even through policy.

For example, it took the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) years to approve emergency contraception – also known as Plan B – for over-the-counter status. Why? Because of fears that teenage girls would become promiscuous. An internal memo showed that Janet Woodcock of the FDA was concerned that increased access to the contraceptive could cause "extreme promiscuous behaviors such as the medication taking on an 'urban legend' status that would lead adolescents to form sex-based cults centered around the use of Plan B."

Yes, teen sex cults.

When the FDA finally did recommend Plan B become available on pharmacy shelves, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius publicly overturned the agency's decision. When President Obama voiced his support for the unprecedented move, he invoked fatherhood and protectionism: "As the father of two young daughters, I think it is important for us to make sure we apply some common sense to various rules when it comes to over-the-counter medicine." Apparently fatherly concern was meant to trump science. As Ann Friedman wrote last year at New York magazine, "Obama may be setting policies based on his preteen daughters, but all women have to live with the consequences."

American paternalism and patriarchy also reared its head recently when Harvard professor Dr Kimberly Theidon filed a discrimination suit against the college, claiming she was denied tenure because of her work supporting sexual assault victims. (Harvard is one of the 55 colleges and universities named by the Education Department on Thursday as currently under federal investigation for mishandling sexual violence and harassment on campus.) Theidon alleges she was told numerous times to be a "dutiful daughter" if she wanted to succeed at the college.


Magnusson says he hopes his pictures elicit empathy,not judgment:

As I learnt more, I understood that the fathers, like all parents, simply wanted to protect the ones that they love – in the best way they know how.

I have no doubt that families who participate in purity balls are doing what they think is best for their children – but that doesn't make them any less wrong. When we teach girls that their virginity makes them special and valuable, we're sending the simultaneous message that without their virginity they are tainted and damaged.

Take Elizabeth Smart – now an activist against child abuse and sexual exploitation – who was kidnapped when she was 14, raped and held for nine months before she escaped. At a forum last year, Smart talked about the way that abstinence-only education made her feel "dirty and filthy" after she was raped. "That's how easy it is to feel like you no longer have worth, you no longer have value. Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."

But our lives do have value, whether we're "chaste" or not. Too bad there's no party for that.
 
God I must be irrevocably kinky, because at first I thought a purity ball must be a kind of sex toy:D


Which is much healthier and less creepy than the reality.
 
God I must be irrevocably kinky, because at first I thought a purity ball must be a kind of sex toy:D


Which is much healthier and less creepy than the reality.

I have some of those kind you are thinking of, actually. :D
 
I think it is sick and detrimental to society. Just another attempt to keep women ignorant, barefoot and pregnant.
I have friends from high school who had real problems when they got married because they had been taught that sex was wrong outside of marriage and only for procreation within marriage.
It took them quite a while to not feel horrible about it, esp. if they enjoyed sex. Interestingly, these were protestant girls, not Catholic.
 
Everyone should be allowed to fuck anyone and everyone whenever they want with no consequences. Scour the wombs clean of any "mistakes" and carry on as if nothing happened.

Sure. Why not?
 
Everyone should be allowed to fuck anyone and everyone whenever they want with no consequences. Scour the wombs clean of any "mistakes" and carry on as if nothing happened.

Sure. Why not?

Oops. I think you missed the off-topic anger thread. But thanks for coming out.
 
Oops. I think you missed the off-topic anger thread. But thanks for coming out.

Angry? I'm not angry. I think many people miss-value the role religion plays in society. It's sort of like imagine a world of only republicans. There needs to be a balance. Unfortunately, that means the wackier one side gets, the further the other side needs to go.
 
I can get the whole virgin-until-marriage thing as a religious or generally socially conservative thing. It's not my choice, but each to their own.

Purity balls are however just weird. A whole evening where fathers parade around their teenage daughters in a formal setting where the theme is, put bluntly, sex.

As in "Look, no SEX here, no SEX at all, nobody have had SEX nor will have SEX with these girls until their future husbands have SEX with them. So don't look at our daughters and think of SEX, y'hear?".
 
... and Purity Rings too.

http://cdn-img.cornerstonejewelrydesigns.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/220x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/o/cornerstone6_14.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ring

It is all a bit creepy to me. My dad never asked about my hymen's status and I never told. My mom asked me at 17, when I had been dating the same boy for a year, if we had sex. I said yes. and that was it. She said she figured we were. It was no big deal. She always knocked if my bedroom door was closed there after.


That said I have been in a group who did this- purity classes, for their children, as an adult. I thought it was creepy but I am a perv. They also did the no kiss business. I stated one time, that is seemed hypocritical, that the moms, who often bitched bout their sex life like it was a chore, or the bible tells you to service you husband when he needs it, would want the same for their daughters but I think it was more important that their daughters didn't have to work, than had a good sex life. Sad all the way around.
 
I vividly remember I was a month shy of twenty when I lost my virginity. A couple of weeks later, my mother searched my purse, (it would seem she must have been doing that regularly) and found my birth control pills. She flung them at me, then slapped my face several times and called me a slut. My father raged, and asked me why I didn't "Just use a candle". (WTF? Is that what the women used for dildos back in the olden days?:confused:) Neither of them even spoke to me for four months, even though I was still living at home at the time. I had to break up with my boyfriend, or they basically were not letting me back in the house. My 20th birthday came and went with no acknowledgement from them. The kicker was, we were not a religious family - AT ALL. I felt like scum, and they treated me as such. I was told no one would ever want me now that I was "used". :(

That is some fucked up shit right there. Damn. :rose:
 
All of my kids have lost their virginity.
My only response? 'Were you safe?
 
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