What's with the re-categorization?

[BTTap]

Very recently, I've seen a number of stories initially submitted under Loving Wives moved, against the author's wishes, to other categories; most frequently Erotic Couplings. This has happened to Britease and Slirpuff, two very prolific dramatic LW authors.
The question is why? The re-categorized stories are not erotic as such, but revolve around cheating wives, etc. They may not fit into the erotic LW mold, but they are even worse fits for EC.....
I don't get it. Therefore, it's stupid.
My two cents.

 

[TxRad]

Very recently, I've seen a number of stories initially submitted under Loving Wives moved, against the author's wishes, to other categories; most frequently Erotic Couplings. This has happened to Britease and Slirpuff, two very prolific dramatic LW authors.
The question is why? The re-categorized stories are not erotic as such, but revolve around cheating wives, etc. They may not fit into the erotic LW mold, but they are even worse fits for EC.....
I don't get it. Therefore, it's stupid.
My two cents.

The only one who can move stories around is Laurel. She owns the site and reads (more or less) every story that comes in. She is the only one who knows for sure.

 

[sr71plt]

I've recently had one moved from the Anal category to Erotic Coupling too. I don't agree with the move, but categorization is something the editor has reserved for herself, so that's the way it is. I have another one to be submitted for the Anal category--and anal is the focus of the story--so, I'll PM Laurel about that one if it's moved. But it will still be her final decision.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Maybe he wanted to get away from the LW psychos.

 

[sr71plt]

Maybe he wanted to get away from the LW psychos.

Who's "he"? The OP wanted it in LW. And Laurel isn't a he.

 

[BTTap]

I appreciate the feedback. I am aware that there is one power that be; I am just belly-aching, really. I don't see any justification for the re-categorization. Slirpuff and Britease are 2 long-standing authors in the LW category. They don't write strokers, they write dramatic, sometimes revenge-based stories of cheating wives and good love gone wrong. A lot of readers check out LW to see their work. It seems arbitrary and strange for their stories to be deported from LW. I'm wondering if this is a trend for how these types of stories will be handled, or if there is a specific quality to these stories (that I cannot decipher) that renders them inappropriate for LW. I think the authors and their fans deserve some sort of explanation....

 

[sr71plt]

If the authors themselves are disturbed by the move, they can appeal to Laurel by PM. I did once and had the story moved to my chosen category after I gave her my reasoning for it being there. She only has time to scan the stories. She can't be expected to pick up nuance.

 

[BTTap]

Maybe he wanted to get away from the LW psychos.

The authors in question have both stated that the move was done without their permission: both submitted their stories to LW. So, the move was made by Lit. I don't understand who "he" is or what you mean.

 

[DirtyAllie]

I pretty much just ghost around the threads here, but it seems cuckolding is a very hot topic lately and many people are complaining that is all that is in LW and the person who runs the site posted for readers to report stories if they feel they should be moved.

So what I think is now happening is readers are now going "report" happy and having fun seeing the stories moved. LW is the biggest troll haven here and the site has handed them a loaded gun to mess with any author who upsets them.

I've been reading here for awhile-finally decided to create an id and pop in and maybe do some writing(hopefully)-and I feel these LW stories are not going to be well received in EC and the authors numbers will suffer.

Many readers that are anon do not have them favorited and have no idea they have new stories, I bet most just scout the LW category looking for the latest and greatest from their fav.

I find it intriguing that on a site that carries and promotes incest stories as well as rape stories- both of which are crimes in real life- that cucking is such a hotbed topic all of a sudden.

If they want it moved, fetish is the obvious choice seeing cucking can be seen as a form of femdom, but I have noted the obvious is not firmly grasped here sometimes.

 

[StrangeLife]

I recently had my Master trilogy forcibly moved from Loving Wives to Novels & Novellas.

It happened right after I posted the first two chapters, so I was a little concerned that some LW readers might think that I was cheating them out of the conclusion because it premiered in a different category. But apart from that, Laurel made the right decision moving it. It does feature a cheating wife, but quickly branches out into several other categories and is quite long. Novels & Novellas was a good fit.

So if she moves one of your stories, ask her why. It's extra work for her, so I highly doubt she does it frivolously.

 

[slyc_willie]

If the authors themselves are disturbed by the move, they can appeal to Laurel by PM. I did once and had the story moved to my chosen category after I gave her my reasoning for it being there. She only has time to scan the stories. She can't be expected to pick up nuance.

I've jumped the gun on a series that involved several themes -- non-con, incest, gay male, straight sex -- and with the first chapter included a note asking that all of the chapters remain in Erotic Horror because that was the overall theme. I don't know that Laurel would have put chapters with different elements into different categories (which has happened to me in the past), but I wanted to insure they all stayed together. I think Laurel puts a lot of weight into, and has appreciation for, the author's intentions with a story.

 

[slyc_willie]

I recently had my Master trilogy forcibly moved from Loving Wives to Novels & Novellas.

It happened right after I posted the first two chapters, so I was a little concerned that some LW readers might think that I was cheating them out of the conclusion because it premiered in a different category. But apart from that, Laurel made the right decision moving it. It does feature a cheating wife, but quickly branches out into several other categories and is quite long. Novels & Novellas was a good fit.

So if she moves one of your stories, ask her why. It's extra work for her, so I highly doubt she does it frivolously.

Sometimes you don't realize a good fit until you try it on. I've had that happen, too, with a story I originally posted to EC that ended up in EV.

 

[DeYaKen]

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[Jounar]

I pretty much just ghost around the threads here, but it seems cuckolding is a very hot topic lately and many people are complaining that is all that is in LW and the person who runs the site posted for readers to report stories if they feel they should be moved.

So what I think is now happening is readers are now going "report" happy and having fun seeing the stories moved. LW is the biggest troll haven here and the site has handed them a loaded gun to mess with any author who upsets them.

I've been reading here for awhile-finally decided to create an id and pop in and maybe do some writing(hopefully)-and I feel these LW stories are not going to be well received in EC and the authors numbers will suffer.

Many readers that are anon do not have them favorited and have no idea they have new stories, I bet most just scout the LW category looking for the latest and greatest from their fav.

I find it intriguing that on a site that carries and promotes incest stories as well as rape stories- both of which are crimes in real life- that cucking is such a hotbed topic all of a sudden.

If they want it moved, fetish is the obvious choice seeing cucking can be seen as a form of femdom, but I have noted the obvious is not firmly grasped here sometimes.

The stories that were moved were not in any way cuck stories and the author's in question whose work was moved mostly post in LW so there should of been little doubt as to where they were intended to go. As to moving said stories to EC, I can't for the life of me figure that one out!

Also, maybe it's just me, but the favorite author user interface on Lit is pretty bad to use and a total pain for seeing when new stories are posted.

 

[DeYaKen]

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[StrangeLife]

I second that. FLC's avowed intention is to rid Lw of all stories that are not about sharing or cuckoldry. He openly boast of his success in getting stories removed and disrespects Laurel into the bargain.

If it's a question of one specific troll abusing the report feature a complaint to Laurel might take care of the problem. She can easily flag his name and ignore him.

 

[DeYaKen]

Here is an example

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[RejectReality]

If someone is truly abusing the report button, it will get sorted soon enough. That member's reports will get ignored once enough people prove there was nothing wrong with their stories by taking the issue up with Laurel.

Thing is, it doesn't look that way.

When Laurel changed the description of the category a while back, it was an obvious statement that sharing and cuckold stories belonged there. There's nothing in that change that reflects revenge stories.

It may very well be that violent revenge stories are a thing of the past in LW. A member on a mission who has found the right criteria may not be able to weed out all the older stories with that theme, but he/she could certainly take down all the new ones as fast as they appear, those of specific authors, and wipe out those on the toplist.

 

[oshaw]

I had expressed many of the concerns expressed here in a private message to Laurel. I'm sure many others have done the same. To see that other posters are seeing a concerted effort to drive certain authors away from Loving Wives is disheartening.

To me, Loving Wives is historically the repository for "cheating" wives stories. That was the impression I got when I discovered Literotica. That was enforced by the majority of the Hall of Fame stories voting, as well as the favorites and comments counts to the more popular authors' stories I have enjoyed reading.

As noted, the interface is not designed to allow to easily discover new submissions by favored authors. I tried to explain to Laurel that I only view a certain number of categories that interest me. For example, I seldom, if ever view any of the Erotic Coupling stories.

Yet now, due to this change in policy I will be forced to search it (and other categories) to enjoy stories which were usually assigned to Loving Wives.

It is my belief this will result in lower views (and voting) of stories and making Loving Wives a niche category with the same small viewing audience of say, Fetish.

Thus it becomes a lose/lose proposition. Fewer readers. Less quality stories submissions. And a decline in morale to authors that I have enjoyed over the years like Slirpuff, Iron Dragon, and others that continue to see their submissions being reassigned without their consent or knowledge.

I find it particular galling that the efforts of StangStar06, HDK, TheUnoriginalist, qhml1, laptopwriter, and countless others with notable contributions are subject to the capricious whims of a reader that has yet to contribute a single story to this site. That does not encourage me to continue writing or submitting any more stories.

 

[RejectReality]

To be fair, the authors of cuckold and sharing stories had hordes of people trying to drive them out of the category for years, and it's still happening.

If the category dies, it will be the readers in all the various camps who are to blame.

 

[StrangeLife]

As noted, the interface is not designed to allow to easily discover new submissions by favored authors. I tried to explain to Laurel that I only view a certain number of categories that interest me. For example, I seldom, if ever view any of the Erotic Coupling stories.

Yet now, due to this change in policy I will be forced to search it (and other categories) to enjoy stories which were usually assigned to Loving Wives..

She's working on it. As far as I have understood, the plan is to eventually do away with the categories all together in favor of tags. Which makes a lot of sense since many stories span multiple areas. The problem is, that Lit is a huge beast and the staff is two people.

 

[BTTap]

To be fair, the authors of cuckold and sharing stories had hordes of people trying to drive them out of the category for years, and it's still happening.

If the category dies, it will be the readers in all the various camps who are to blame.

LW has a lot of asshole readers/trolls. However, I don't recall seeing Lit moving stories out of the category with any frequency in the past; certainly not cuckold stories. Now, however, to see Lit honoring this b.s. reporting with removal of stories is disappointing.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

When Laurel changed the description of the category a while back, it was an obvious statement that sharing and cuckold stories belonged there. There's nothing in that change that reflects revenge stories.

It may very well be that violent revenge stories are a thing of the past in LW. A member on a mission who has found the right criteria may not be able to weed out all the older stories with that theme, but he/she could certainly take down all the new ones as fast as they appear, those of specific authors, and wipe out those on the toplist.

I agree. It's my personal belief that LW was never intended to be a repository for hate filled BTB and other revenge type stories. The focus was intended to be on themes like swinging and the hot wife lifestyle. The current description places emphasis on these ideals--nowhere does it mention revenge or retribution. As I recall, the previous description wasn't all that different from the current description.

I only go back five years on this site, but I would be willing to bet that the description never included references to violence or revenge. The problem is that the title is misleading, which resulted in the formation of different factions--the literalists, who think the stories should be about married wives monogamously loving their husbands; the BTB crowd who want to read about husbands getting revenge on their cheating wives; and the "lifestyle" crowd who like stories where wives have multiple partners.

Unfortunately, the category was unfocused and unpoliced for so long that any effort now to weed out any of the subcategories is bound to fail. There are just too many stories already there. The result will seem like selective enforcement but without a clearly stated policy to point to as the inspiration.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

The problem is that the title is misleading, which resulted in the formation of different factions--the literalists, who think the stories should be about married wives monogamously loving their husbands; the BTB crowd who want to read about husbands getting revenge on their cheating wives; and the "lifestyle" crowd who like stories where wives have multiple partners.

LW: it's like Game of Thrones, only slightly less sexual and everyone is fighting with just one hand.

 

[sr71plt]

She's working on it. As far as I have understood, the plan is to eventually do away with the categories all together in favor of tags. Which makes a lot of sense since many stories span multiple areas. The problem is, that Lit is a huge beast and the staff is two people.

The bigger problem with that is that there isn't much of any control on tags here either--and probably never will be. Not to mention that the tags are kicked into a corner at the end of the story.