The fish & the bicycle: A fatal weakness in radical feminism...

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The number one weapon a feminist uses in any heated debate is her threat of withdrawing VALIDATION of your manhood. She depends on being able to intimidate and belittle you by implying your uselessness and unattractiveness to women. It is her nuclear bomb, her Death Star superlaser, it is a superweapon that certain women drop whenever you dare to piss her off, or disagree with her. It is her way of reminding men that the entire meaning of a man is his relevance and usefulness to women.

Think about it. Creep shaming, nerd shaming, body shaming (penis size, attractiveness, height, etc), fedora this, neckbeard that, you can’t get laid, and all those insults. What do they all have in common? A male or female feminist trying to invalidate a man, trying to erase his manhood. Her message is women don’t like you and you’re some guy’s bitch, too. Feminists, thus, are as much patriarchs as the misogynists they claim to oppose. Or… maybe… this isn’t the Patriarchy, but rather, something women helped men create and then perpetuate?

To beat this, you need to understand the tale of the fish and the bicycle. Patricia Irene Dunn, an Australian politician and writer born in 1948, once came up with the phrase “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” which feminist activist Gloria Steinem later made (in)famous worldwide. It has since become a rallying cry for modern feminists: it means, basically, that a woman doesn’t need a man. It asserts that men are useless and irrelevant.

But the damage that this invalidation does, goes both ways. Men are used to living in a desert of non-validation and invalidation. It defines our very existence. A male, by default, has to prove himself. We’re like cacti - we’re made for this hopeless desert.

Women, on the other hand, are practically given validation by default. Think of a tree in a rain forest. Them things grow big because they get lots of water.

Now put that tree in a desert and see what happens.

Let a woman realize that, contrary to her fantasies of importance and power, she’s really not wanted and nobody needs her, and her ego implodes, forming an event horizon of gloom into which countless happy pills (and cats) fall and are not seen again. Usually, though, before she collapses into this singularity of depression, the feminist, who says she needs men like a fish needs a bicycle, will call out for male feminists and white knights to come give her love, usually platonic, but maybe more than that if they look like a rugged bad boy or something. What does this narcissistic diva offer in return? Validation, of course. Validation for the validation-starved man-dogs that grovel at her feet and bite at her command.

There’s a reason why there’s not too many hermits out there: people crave validation, women included.

Now ask yourself, what happens during hyperinflation? Hyperinflation is when a currency - say, the German Mark (or maybe the US Dollar in the future?) has devalued to the point where it has completely lost its value. Basically, under hyperinflation, money becomes something barely worth wiping your ass with. Think of this applied to validation. The hyperinflation of validation means her approval is not even on the level of toilet paper. What she’s selling, or depriving you of, is worthless. It is like paper money during hyperinflation. You need it like a fish needs a bicycle.

May Patricia Dunn and Gloria Steinem weep bitter harpy tears at the detonation of their own nukes in their own faces.

This is not just theory or idle talk, folks. Devaluing the value of her validation has been shown to be devastating. Ever wonder why feminists are so scared of gay men? The most basic reason is not what they tell you - it’s more evident in how they act. The real reason they’re scared because many gay men don’t give a shit what a woman thinks about them, and good luck finding any gay man who gets hurt by the idea of his manhood being invalidated by a woman. He needs her validation like a fish needs a bicycle.

Gay men have an antidote to feminist and female privilege bullshit. Of course, the more intelligent reader will realize that this doesn’t mean that you have to be gay to see through and become immune to this invalidation tactic. You just have to wake up. You just have to get used to the idea that a woman’s validation is not worth its weight in gold just because she is a woman. Yes, some women are worth falling at their feet - but then so are some men. It’s called respect, and people - women included, imagine! - have to earn that. Many women think they’re owed respect just for being female and you, kind reader, owe it to yourself to refuse to accept that. You owe it to yourself to set a very high bar for a woman to become desirable, respectable, and for her validation to be worth more than something to wipe your ass with.

Now, I have an experiment for you. Repeat what the part about respect to another forum. Just that one part. Guaranteed, you will get one overwhelming response: YOU MISOGYNIST PIGGGG ARRRARRRGH!!! This is why you got that response - women, and their obsequious white knight validation-seekers, are offended at the idea that women aren’t just automatically owed respect. Men have to earn it, women are owed it, in their minds. Respect is validation, folks. It is yours to give or deny. You do not owe anyone either, any more than they owe it to you. These people can scream MISOGYNIST at you until hell freezes over but it means nothing if you do not comply. What does a fish care if the bicycle Nazi says “no bicycle for you”?

Of course, one man thumbing his nose at the over-inflated value of validation from a woman who has not earned your respect, isn’t going to do a lot of damage. She can always cry to other white knights to feed her narcissistic ego. But sometimes refusing to give a damn about her perceived monopoly over validation, gets to be infectious. Maybe 5% of all men are gay, and that’s an overexaggeration: but their lack of need for a woman’s validation, still scares the shit out of a lot of women. Now imagine the same thing happening among groups of heterosexual men. Herds of heterosexual fish, no longer needing a ride on their narcissistic bicycles…

Now watch radical feminists respond to this with attempts at ego invalidation…
 
Yeah a lot of feminism went too far up or down a wrong track, whichever way you want to look at it.

Besides, who wants or needs validation from a dickhead who is perpetually hateful and pompous (just a phrase that was thrown at me recently! lol) - whether that person is a woman or a man?

Dickheadism, is not confined to any one particular gender.
 
SNL has gotten around to mocking the Mens Rights movement..."first they ignore you,", etc.
 
I found this on the internet years ago and saved it for posterity:


"Women control the mating dance. However, when they remove sex from the equation, they become no different than any male friends who you are also not getting sex from. That being the case, they need to be measured using the same scale as their male counterparts.

"If I need help lifting something heavy... I can't call on you. If I need help fixing the house or working on the car.... I can't ask you questions. So what value do you bring to the table? Even if I was interested in intellectual stimulation, I can talk to a guy or watch a TED episode on youtube. I don't need a female in my life for anything other than sex.

"As a single man, I am more than capable of keeping a clean house, washing my own dishes, doing my own laundry, sewing on an errant button, sweeping the floors, opening jars, rearranging furniture, painting walls, hanging drapes.... I'm good at that stuff because I'm a guy and know how to research and build skills. Decorating a room is not rocket science.

"Feminists cry foul at what they call misogynistic gender roles, but they ignore the fact that there are millions of men who do those same things simply because it's a part of every day life.

"It reminds me of a t-shirt I once saw that said, "no matter how beautiful you think she is, somewhere out there is a guy that's tired of her shit!"

"And that's it in a nutshell. Beautiful women can get away with a lot. Women in general can get away with a lot. But that doesn't mean that men aren't tired of their shit. Men are only putting up with the shit because pussy is in the mix. Remove that, and the value of women plummets."
 
You can only be attached by these types of comments if you let them get to you. I laugh this shit off because that is all it is. Personal attacks are for the weak and usually are all the weak have left in the tank.

Stop being a pussy! :D
 
You can only be attached by these types of comments if you let them get to you. I laugh this shit off because that is all it is. Personal attacks are for the weak and usually are all the weak have left in the tank.

Stop being a pussy! :D

You are wasting your breath on this OP.
An aura of stupidity radiates brightly around his person.
 
You can only be attached by these types of comments if you let them get to you. I laugh this shit off because that is all it is. Personal attacks are for the weak and usually are all the weak have left in the tank.

Stop being a pussy! :D

Amen! If insults and snide insinuations are all you have, you've got nothing. They are the last refuge of a weak mind and cowardly spirit.
 
I found this on the internet years ago and saved it for posterity:


"Women control the mating dance. However, when they remove sex from the equation, they become no different than any male friends who you are also not getting sex from. That being the case, they need to be measured using the same scale as their male counterparts.

"If I need help lifting something heavy... I can't call on you. If I need help fixing the house or working on the car.... I can't ask you questions. So what value do you bring to the table? Even if I was interested in intellectual stimulation, I can talk to a guy or watch a TED episode on youtube. I don't need a female in my life for anything other than sex.

"As a single man, I am more than capable of keeping a clean house, washing my own dishes, doing my own laundry, sewing on an errant button, sweeping the floors, opening jars, rearranging furniture, painting walls, hanging drapes.... I'm good at that stuff because I'm a guy and know how to research and build skills. Decorating a room is not rocket science.

"Feminists cry foul at what they call misogynistic gender roles, but they ignore the fact that there are millions of men who do those same things simply because it's a part of every day life.

"It reminds me of a t-shirt I once saw that said, "no matter how beautiful you think she is, somewhere out there is a guy that's tired of her shit!"

"And that's it in a nutshell. Beautiful women can get away with a lot. Women in general can get away with a lot. But that doesn't mean that men aren't tired of their shit. Men are only putting up with the shit because pussy is in the mix. Remove that, and the value of women plummets."



Then why would gay men have female friends?
 
This shtick has gotten really old Rory. Not sure who you think you're fooling with this pretending to be an anti-feminist but actually trying to making anti-feminists look weak and ridiculous. We caught on long ago.
 
I found this on the internet years ago and saved it for posterity:


"Women control the mating dance. However, when they remove sex from the equation, they become no different than any male friends who you are also not getting sex from. That being the case, they need to be measured using the same scale as their male counterparts.

"If I need help lifting something heavy... I can't call on you. If I need help fixing the house or working on the car.... I can't ask you questions. So what value do you bring to the table? Even if I was interested in intellectual stimulation, I can talk to a guy or watch a TED episode on youtube. I don't need a female in my life for anything other than sex.

"As a single man, I am more than capable of keeping a clean house, washing my own dishes, doing my own laundry, sewing on an errant button, sweeping the floors, opening jars, rearranging furniture, painting walls, hanging drapes.... I'm good at that stuff because I'm a guy and know how to research and build skills. Decorating a room is not rocket science.

"Feminists cry foul at what they call misogynistic gender roles, but they ignore the fact that there are millions of men who do those same things simply because it's a part of every day life.

"It reminds me of a t-shirt I once saw that said, "no matter how beautiful you think she is, somewhere out there is a guy that's tired of her shit!"

"And that's it in a nutshell. Beautiful women can get away with a lot. Women in general can get away with a lot. But that doesn't mean that men aren't tired of their shit. Men are only putting up with the shit because pussy is in the mix. Remove that, and the value of women plummets."
Plummets down to the level of a man's value, not to some subpar subhuman status.

Mind you, though, that drop in value, for a woman, is totally devastating. She loses a whole hell of a lot of privileges that she didn't realize she had until she's lost them.

BTW I'd kill to know where that passage you quoted, came from. Good stuff.
 
Then why would gay men have female friends?

Friendship has nothing to do with the piece as written. Gay or straight, you can have anyone for a friend that you like.

What the author was trying to say, imo, was that if a woman takes sex out of the equation, she can only be judged as you would judge anyone else you're not getting sex from. The point made is valid.

In a lot of the women's rights literature, there's a theme that men are ancillary. As the OP stated, part of the foundation of the movement is the implication that men are useless to women (bicycles are useless to fish). This puts women in a superior position, but conveniently ignores the fact that there is nothing a woman provides that a man cannot do or has not done for himself.

Jack Donovan wrote an excellent essay on the matter, and pointed out that even the most stereotypical "gender biased" activity, like washing dishes and cleaning house, are performed by men even when they're in the most masculine of settings - the front lines of a war.

So, if men are the bicycles to the women's fish, what are the women to the men? At the very least, women are as useless to men as the other way around.
 
Friendship has nothing to do with the piece as written. Gay or straight, you can have anyone for a friend that you like.

What the author was trying to say, imo, was that if a woman takes sex out of the equation, she can only be judged as you would judge anyone else you're not getting sex from. The point made is valid.

In a lot of the women's rights literature, there's a theme that men are ancillary. As the OP stated, part of the foundation of the movement is the implication that men are useless to women (bicycles are useless to fish). This puts women in a superior position, but conveniently ignores the fact that there is nothing a woman provides that a man cannot do or has not done for himself.

Jack Donovan wrote an excellent essay on the matter, and pointed out that even the most stereotypical "gender biased" activity, like washing dishes and cleaning house, are performed by men even when they're in the most masculine of settings - the front lines of a war.

So, if men are the bicycles to the women's fish, what are the women to the men? At the very least, women are as useless to men as the other way around.
Why do you think women hate prostitution so much?
Or why they make fun of men who masturbate or use sex toys?
I got an experiment for you: bring up a thread about sex robots and see how the womenfolk respond.

The response from women is consistent: virulent, insult-filled disdain at the idea of a man choosing an alternate approach to sex. If you don't get your sex directly from a woman, you are a loser. Meanwhile nobody makes fun of a woman who uses a vibrator.

It's instinctual. Women know their pussy is their path to power over men. They know, deep down, that if you neutralize the pussy, you neutralize her advantage. Her value drops not to some subhuman level, but to the level of men, but for a woman's ego, that is like hitting the ground at terminal velocity.

I call it a nonviolent revolution against female advantage. They're powerless to do anything about it - they can't call the cops on you, they can't do shit except talk smack.

Can it be done? Hell yes, the female ego bubble can burst. Look at Japan: the Herbivore Man is a huge issue in Japan - something like 60% of the young male populace refuses to chase the pussy. It's driving Japanese women crazy: even economists are worried. Women in Japan used to go to these places called "host bars" to pay to get pampered because their husbands weren't paying them any mind - now they're also going because they can't find a husband. Amazingly enough, this is also occurring in China, where the numbers say there's a shortage of women - yet there's tons of women there who can't even find a man. The media says they're called "leftover women" in China. (The term appears to be coined by the Women's Federation of China, and they intended it as an insult.)

Conclusion: Women can fuck up men's lives by withholding the pussy. But it goes both ways.

To gain equal footing with women, you don't have to go totally celibate like the Herbivore Man. This is the big secret of life that every man needs to learn: you don't have to say no to sex with women - you just have to raise the bar for women to be considered fuckworthy. Raise the bar as high as their bar is for you, that's all. One man, of course, won't make a difference, when there's 9 validation-starved manginas groveling in his place - but Japan has shown that, given enough men fighting back nonviolently, you can force tens of millions of women to check their privilege in a single generation.
 
Shut up, you stupid mangina.

Very original :rolleyes:
Having a whiney assed, bitchy pussy who can't get along with women shout Mangina is somehow satisfying - in the sense that the word is still Man and not some pussy jealous bitch whose stones have disappeared.

Where is your sense of self man? Grow some balls and suck it up.
There are women laughing at you right now; gleefully preying on your whiney brethren because they know it bothers you.

And you have real nice day now.
 
Very original :rolleyes:
Having a whiney assed, bitchy pussy
Speaking of original. :rolleyes:

Stupid mangina.

who can't get along with women shout Mangina is somehow satisfying - in the sense that the word is still Man and not some pussy jealous bitch whose stones have disappeared.
LOL you ripped off every insult in the mangina feminist insult book, now didn't you?

Your pathetic attempts at attacking my manhood don't work. It never will. I am immune to your bullshit. If I wasn't, I would have stopped posting about men's issues long ago.

There are women laughing at you right now
Which means absolutely nothing to me because those women mean absolutely nothing. If they meant anything, I wouldn't keep posting these things. You fucking mangina idiot.

I live for throwing dickless groveling manginas like you into fits like this. As for all the other men out there... I bring the gift of immunity.

A woman's denial of validation means nothing. Yours means less than that.

You're welcome, little mangina boy.
 
I always get a laugh when I think about how many women turned down such a huge dork like Bill Gates was in high school and college. This guy was the prototypical nerd in his teens and early twenties.

They know who they are and, oooh, do I bet they're kicking themselves now!
 
Just when I thought you had fully explored your insanity, you manage to make me laugh again...



:YIKES: :eek:
 
Speaking of original. :rolleyes:

Stupid mangina.


LOL you ripped off every insult in the mangina feminist insult book, now didn't you?

Your pathetic attempts at attacking my manhood don't work. It never will. I am immune to your bullshit. If I wasn't, I would have stopped posting about men's issues long ago.


Which means absolutely nothing to me because those women mean absolutely nothing. If they meant anything, I wouldn't keep posting these things. You fucking mangina idiot.

I live for throwing dickless groveling manginas like you into fits like this. As for all the other men out there... I bring the gift of immunity.

A woman's denial of validation means nothing. Yours means less than that.

You're welcome, little mangina boy.

There are times when I read your drivel that I truly wish I could be that deluded if for no other reason than the world would be focused into a narrow little ball of hate and stupidity.
Then the rest of the beautiful wide world of people and substance wouldn't matter, and life would be very easy.
Enjoy your little world.
 
Just discovered the Koi carp have gone from my pond and my bicycle has disappeared too.
 
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