Teen experiences

[AliciaB]

Hello,

I'm new to this site, and I joined because I am writing a story about my experiences as a teen which I wanted to share.

I saw that the rules forbid stories with underage characters, which is a bummer. My intent is certainly not the exploitation of minors. And since literotica has grown to the degree it has, it seems to have pushed out all but a very few, very low quality alternatives.

Could anyone suggest a different venue for me to post this?

 

[PayDay]

Hell? Jail? Trash can?

I can think of a few more.

 

[Hypoxia]

I've glanced at (but can't recommend) a few other sites, all of which seemed pretty trashy.

What to do with underage sex on LIT? Possibilities:

1) Lie. Say that your characters are of legal age.
2) Hint. Just say that a minor had sex, but don't describe anything.
3) Freak. Make your characters ET aliens with lifespans unlike normal humans.
4) Submit. Forget about underage sex on LIT. Choose other themes.
5) Leave. Post your tales on a blog or trash*****.

 

[FaeLissa]

that was the question - what sites would publish it.
None that I would want even my pseudonym associated with.

The problem is there is not much difference between "kiddie porn" and "my sexual experiences as a minor" and no reputable site is going to want to deal with it.

The minute you allow any mention of "sex" and "minor" linked you get into PR problems at the minimum and legal ones on average.

Don't forget, the all time classic text of adult-child sex - Lolita - had the protagonist writing from prison.

 

[PayDay]

that was the question - what sites would publish it.
None that I would want even my pseudonym associated with.

The problem is there is not much difference between "kiddie porn" and "my sexual experiences as a minor" and no reputable site is going to want to deal with it.

The minute you allow any mention of "sex" and "minor" linked you get into PR problems at the minimum and legal ones on average.

Don't forget, the all time classic text of adult-child sex - Lolita - had the protagonist writing from prison.

Based upon United States Federal Law, fictional images of underage sex are not considered illegal. This applies to prose as well. Thinking ain't doing unless it is.

Why not bump the ages up and post it on Lit, like an adult.

 

[FaeLissa]

Yup - in the US there MUST be a real child involved (or the buyer or seller must believe there is (intent) ) for it to be illegal. HOWEVER - the PR issues make it problematical.

No decent publishing site will want to deal with that.

Like the others say - bump the age. If the age matters so much, then you probably want to rethink the point in the first place.

 

[MSTarot]

You can use the teen years to help tell the story just nothing sexual can occur till they hit their 18th birthday.

"When I was fourteen I feel in love with an older man. He was seventeen and so very mature."

Now even with this you may get your story kicked out due to underage as the site might just see the age and look no further. A disclaimer of (no underage sex occurred in this story) may not even keep that from happening.

Write about middle aged sex. Now one cares then.


Always thought there might should be and upper age limit to this as well. I read part of a story one night (just story hunting) where a guy was going to the nursing home to get some quick nooky from his 96 year old great grandmother who had Alzheimers and though he was her husband.

Shivers.

MST

 

[lovecraft68]

Stories on line will accept underage and is not considered trashy.

Stay away from ASSTR

 

[lovecraft68]

Hell? Jail? Trash can?

I can think of a few more.

Why because some people want to write about sexual situations at the time they happened rather than write lame story after lame story where no one even thinks about sex until they are 18?

There is a far cry between writing about a couple of 15 year old teens experimenting and pedophilia which this site seems convinced that's what underage sex is.

 

[FaeLissa]

Why because some people want to write about sexual situations at the time they happened rather than write lame story after lame story where no one even thinks about sex until they are 18?

There is a far cry between writing about a couple of 15 year old teens experimenting and pedophilia which this site seems convinced that's what underage sex is.

I think it is unfair to blame the site. They are working within the rules society has set.
Someone earlier pointed out that in the US there must be real children involved for it to be a crime. But in most Euro countries that is not the case. The owners of the site have to deal with that reality.
They pulled a CGI pic of mine because some twit said it was a photo of children (not children and not a photo - but the site owner didn't want to deal with the legal hassles it could cause).

Most sites adopt the same philosophy - the fight is not worth it, and even if you win the legal battles you still lose the public relations battles.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think it is unfair to blame the site. They are working within the rules society has set.
Someone earlier pointed out that in the US there must be real children involved for it to be a crime. But in most Euro countries that is not the case. The owners of the site have to deal with that reality.
They pulled a CGI pic of mine because some twit said it was a photo of children (not children and not a photo - but the site owner didn't want to deal with the legal hassles it could cause).

Most sites adopt the same philosophy - the fight is not worth it, and even if you win the legal battles you still lose the public relations battles.

There no true legal rules about writing about underage sex. If there were Stephen King would have been jailed after "It"

Erotica is seen differently because it is all about sex with no other storyline, but the underage. So in fiction it is simply "part of the story"

But again having said that there is no federal laws against writing it.

This is site preference. I think the official reason given is its not the stories, but the fact they could attract child molesters and the FBI follows them wherever they go. If that was really the case ownership would actually back their rape rule because all serial rapists have tons of rape videos and stories in their possession and don't think for a minute sites that contain them are not flagged

I think the true reason is personal taste and opinion. Which is their right seeing its their business. Its just too bad it can never just be come out and said that way.

For me personally I have no issue with it. My writing is not usually angled to where it seems unrealistic for the characters to be 18 and over, but I still think its a little out of place with a "freedom of speech site"

 

[lovecraft68]

I think it is unfair to blame the site. They are working within the rules society has set.
Someone earlier pointed out that in the US there must be real children involved for it to be a crime. But in most Euro countries that is not the case. The owners of the site have to deal with that reality.
They pulled a CGI pic of mine because some twit said it was a photo of children (not children and not a photo - but the site owner didn't want to deal with the legal hassles it could cause).

Most sites adopt the same philosophy - the fight is not worth it, and even if you win the legal battles you still lose the public relations battles.

Yet at the same time this site and many, many others approve of "monster sex" and "monster porn" where a woman can suck a horses cock, but wait their is a horn on that Horse, its a unicorn! And fucking a female Centaur is nothing like fucking a mare!

Now amazon has finally turned way from their all out "incest is the only thing we will go after" to start looking at the thousands of dog fucking books and monster pron on their site.

And you're right its because it went viral how much of it they carry and now they look bad.

So its never about morals, its about caving, which is fine if that is what is best for your business endeavor.

But just own it and stop making up shit. And back it for every situation not just personal taste.

 

[FaeLissa]

Now you're just in a fantasyland! They can't say that for the same reason they won't say the other

 

[lovecraft68]

Now you're just in a fantasyland! They can't say that for the same reason they won't say the other

You're right.

Flat out honesty went out of fashion long ago.

As did principle ad backbone. Now people just sway in whatever direction the internet and opinions expressed on it blow them.

 

[FaeLissa]

TO be a little less facetious - even coming out and saying "we ban this because it will lead to a lot of PR issues we don't want to deal with" would cause those very same issues because then people want them to say "we support X" or "we condemn X" because every twit with an agenda thinks their personal crusade and morals should rule the net and the universe and if you don't agree that their version of peace is the only true version then you need to die ... the crusaders are better at that than I am, but you get the idea

I don't know how literotica makes its rules - I see on here people saying there is a rape rule, but I don't see it in the FAQ or the writer guidelines, but from the number of posts referencing it I gather it is a real thing (not my kind of story - non-con that turns con is the closest I want to get to that - so never tried real hard to find the rule).

Most the rules seem to be "things that no sane person can object to" - so sex with a horse is bad, sex with a unicorn is okay because no sane person can file a lawsuit against it as being 'obscene'.

That's my guess.

 

[lovecraft68]

TO be a little less facetious - even coming out and saying "we ban this because it will lead to a lot of PR issues we don't want to deal with" would cause those very same issues because then people want them to say "we support X" or "we condemn X" because every twit with an agenda thinks their personal crusade and morals should rule the net and the universe and if you don't agree that their version of peace is the only true version then you need to die ... the crusaders are better at that than I am, but you get the idea

I don't know how literotica makes its rules - I see on here people saying there is a rape rule, but I don't see it in the FAQ or the writer guidelines, but from the number of posts referencing it I gather it is a real thing (not my kind of story - non-con that turns con is the closest I want to get to that - so never tried real hard to find the rule).

Most the rules seem to be "things that no sane person can object to" - so sex with a horse is bad, sex with a unicorn is okay because no sane person can file a lawsuit against it as being 'obscene'.

That's my guess.

All you need to know about the rape rule is....

There is a rule about rape(there is a link in the faq section under reasons your story can be rejected)

But they have a category called non consent.

The rule is a joke put there as a little CYA if they are ever called out on it. They will reject a story from time to tome for appearance sake, but the site is full of full out rape stories.

I was also told that rape is okay if it is part of the story(well in non con of course it is, oh how sly) women can be beaten tortured and gang raped repeatedly however, if a man is castrated or tortured? The story will be rejected. Apparently lit is republican or has a middle eastern heritage.

 

[patientlee]

You can use the teen years to help tell the story just nothing sexual can occur till they hit their 18th birthday.

"When I was fourteen I feel in love with an older man. He was seventeen and so very mature."

Now even with this you may get your story kicked out due to underage as the site might just see the age and look no further. A disclaimer of (no underage sex occurred in this story) may not even keep that from happening.

Write about middle aged sex. Now one cares then.


Always thought there might should be and upper age limit to this as well. I read part of a story one night (just story hunting) where a guy was going to the nursing home to get some quick nooky from his 96 year old great grandmother who had Alzheimers and though he was her husband.

Shivers.

MST

In Non Con I hope.

 

[lovecraft68]

You can use the teen years to help tell the story just nothing sexual can occur till they hit their 18th birthday.

"When I was fourteen I feel in love with an older man. He was seventeen and so very mature."

Now even with this you may get your story kicked out due to underage as the site might just see the age and look no further. A disclaimer of (no underage sex occurred in this story) may not even keep that from happening.

Write about middle aged sex. Now one cares then.


Always thought there might should be and upper age limit to this as well. I read part of a story one night (just story hunting) where a guy was going to the nursing home to get some quick nooky from his 96 year old great grandmother who had Alzheimers and though he was her husband.

Shivers.

MST

Being that I write incest stories, which is a topic many find sick and distasteful, I try not to throw rocks as what others write(except for rape of course, cause I can and I will)

But that story just makes me think, "Man, who thinks that's hot?" 96 and out of her mind? I imagine a lot of people having your reaction, but what really squicks me is wondering if the author is turned on by that when he wrote it

 

[FaeLissa]

That had to be written as a test of what would be allowed - and being too unreal to be offensive it didn't get eliminated?

 

[MSTarot]

In Non Con I hope.

Nope. If it involves family it will get sent to incest. The romance channel for the related.

 

[MSTarot]

Being that I write incest stories, which is a topic many find sick and distasteful, I try not to throw rocks as what others write(except for rape of course, cause I can and I will)

But that story just makes me think, "Man, who thinks that's hot?" 96 and out of her mind? I imagine a lot of people having your reaction, but what really squicks me is wondering if the author is turned on by that when he wrote it

It had a score in the low 4.00s Several comments that seemed to approve. Quite a few making the "break a hip" joke.

 

[lovecraft68]

It had a score in the low 4.00s Several comments that seemed to approve. Quite a few making the "break a hip" joke.

Well maybe if the writing had tongue in cheek, hey this is a goof, tone I could see it.

Something for everyone I guess and there is a fetish for everything.

I recently stumbled on a video that revolved around a smoking fetish. Again something for everyone including apparently the desire to have your cock smell like an ashtray.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Yeah, there's a lot of sick people out there now a days.

To bad there is no one to blame.

 

[R. Richard]

I work with six different publishers. In each site, the first rule is NO UNDERAGE SEX.

 

[Swilly]

Being that I write incest stories, which is a topic many find sick and distasteful, I try not to throw rocks as what others write(except for rape of course, cause I can and I will)

But that story just makes me think, "Man, who thinks that's hot?" 96 and out of her mind? I imagine a lot of people having your reaction, but what really squicks me is wondering if the author is turned on by that when he wrote it

Hey. He was probably fantasizing that she was dead. I mean, who doesn't think necrophilia is hot, right?

My Uncle Bill series had reference to one of the characters being in love with an older man from an early age. There weren't any graphic descriptions or anything; it was just stated as fact. Nothing happened until she was college aged.

Teen experiences could be written as eighteen. If the main character is thirteen or something and that is supposed to be the turn on, well, I guess that's exactly why the limitation is in place in the first place.