Missionary mentality beats business mentality every time?

[4est_4est_Gump]

I said we were not so good at politics. Actually we’re terrible at politics. Whenever a Republican and a Democrat square off it’s like Godzilla versus Bambi. They call us racists, sexists, homophobes, and selfish pigs, and we call them . . . liberals. Who’s going to win that argument? They spend their political dollars calling us names and shredding our reputations; we spend ours explaining why the complicated solutions we propose will work and why theirs won’t. But when you are being called a racist, an enemy of women, and a greedy SOB, who do you think is listening to your ideas about the budget? Who is going to believe you when all your motives are ulterior and degenerate?

This is the problem that not only Republicans, but also tea partiers and conservatives, have failed to address. It is why the Democratic party, which supports policies that are morally repugnant and have also failed on an epic scale, still wins elections. Medicare is bankrupt and a mess; Social Security is bankrupt and a mess; the War on Poverty is a trillion-dollar catastrophe that has created worse poverty than it was designed to cure — and yet Democrats can still win elections, and can pass the biggest socialist entitlement and redistributionist scheme ever and get away with it. Until Republicans and tea partiers start to fight fire with fire, this scenario is not going to change. Twenty-five years after the most oppressive empire in human history collapsed because socialist economics don’t work, 49 percent of American youth, according to a recent Pew poll, think socialism is a good system. That’s a political failure on our part. We won the Cold War, but we didn’t drive the stake through the Communist heart. As a result, the vampire of “social justice” has risen again.

Another way of looking at the problem is that the Republican party — like conservatives generally — is guided by a business mentality, whereas the Left’s mentality is missionary. Let me explain what I mean. Democrats, progressives, so-called liberals see themselves as social redeemers. They don’t approach social problems pragmatically, looking for ways to improve this situation or that, except as a political expedient. They approach social problems with an eye to changing the world. Hillary Clinton once told the New York Times that “we have to define what it means to be human in the 21st century.” No Republican or conservative in his right mind talks like that. On the eve of his election, Barack Obama said, “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” People in their right minds don’t think like that. Unless they are progressives who believe that they are “on the side of history” and the “moral arc of the universe is bent towards justice.” That particular phrase is woven into a carpet that Obama has installed in the Oval Office.

Leftists are secular missionaries whose paradise is called “social justice.” The pursuit of social justice is why the Democratic party set out to radically transform a sixth of the American economy and regulate the health care of 300 million Americans from a website without the support of a single Republican and in the face of majority opposition from the people at large.

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Because their politics is inspirational, every failure along the way is regarded as a glitch. The cause is noble, and they cannot allow it to be derailed by a failure of any of its parts. After a century of corpses and ruined continents, “socialist” should be just another name for delusional. So should “progressive.” And yet these are the fantasies that drive the Democratic party today.

By contrast, a business mentality is pragmatic and its expectations modest. It is not looking to change the world we live in but to service the actual beings who inhabit it. It sets out to meet their needs within the parameters that are set by human capabilities and desires. When a businessman is delusional, when his expectations exceed the capacities of the marketplace, the market punishes him — and punishes him without mercy.

A business approach is fundamentally positive. To succeed it must meet the expectations of others. Where possible it wants to avoid conflict and the alienation of others; it is looking to maximize customers and expand markets, and therefore to make deals. A businessman would rather buy you out or merge with you than crush you. When obstacles present themselves, it is cheaper, and in the long run more productive, to compromise and find a way around them.

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Fifty years of progressive policies and Democratic rule has bankrupted Detroit, and ruined it. A third of its population is on welfare. Half its population is unemployed. Its per-capita income has plummeted so far that it is now the poorest large city in America. It has been depopulated. More than half the people who lived there are gone. Everyone has fled who can. It is a giant slum of human misery and despair. And Democrats did it. Democrats are Detroit’s slumlords and the authors of the racist policies that have reduced a once great city to its present squalid state. Democrats are cynical liars and rank hypocrites when they claim to be interested in the well-being of minorities and the poor, whose necks bear the marks of their boot heels.

Fighting fire with fire means throwing the Democrats’ atrocities — their exploitation and devastation of black and brown Americans — in their faces every time they open their mouths. It means accusing them of destroying the lives of millions of poor black and Hispanic children who are trapped in the public schools that don’t educate them — schools the Democrats run as jobs programs for adults and slush funds for their political campaigns. It means taking up the cause of the victims and indicting progressives for their crimes. The one thing it does not mean is business as usual.

David Horowitz, NRO

Watch what happens to this conversation.

 

[miles]

David Horowitz, NRO

Great article.

Horowitz totally nailed it. The tragedy is the GOP isn't capable of following his advice.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Great article.

Horowitz totally nailed it. The tragedy is the GOP isn't capable of following his advice.

It is analogous to the Rotarians taking on a soccer mob.

Today I am met with another example of the mentality as I made a joke in vette's thread that the usual rodeo clowns took as an invitation to call me stupid because their passion, to use a nicer word, causes them to read not for content, but for an attack angle. So this thread is another vehicle by which to make the point, which I can say openly knowing that they will not get this far in their reading.

 

[miles]

It is analogous to the Rotarians taking on a soccer mob.

Today I am met with another example of the mentality as I made a joke in vette's thread that the usual rodeo clowns took as an invitation to call me stupid because their passion, to use a nicer word, causes them to read not for content, but for an attack angle. So this thread is another vehicle by which to make the point, which I can say openly knowing that they will not get this far in their reading.

Don't expect much response from the Usual Suspects. The article contains facts and logic - liberal Kryptonite. Oreo may respond, but it will be undecipherable babble linked to a Wiki article.

 

[Ishmael]

The conservatives attempt to appeal to reason while the democrats use emotional hyperbole.

Reason is not going to work well in a nation populated with under-educated and/or poorly educated citizens. Republicanism/Democracy cannot survive ignorance, they are mutually exclusive.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Don't expect much response from the Usual Suspects. The article contains facts and logic - liberal Kryptonite. Oreo may respond, but it will be undecipherable babble linked to a Wiki article.

No, they will have to react. Saladin used the missionary mentality to walk the Templars into the desert and so shall I.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The conservatives attempt to appeal to reason while the democrats use emotional hyperbole.

Reason is not going to work well in a nation populated with under-educated and/or poorly educated citizens. Republicanism/Democracy cannot survive ignorance, they are mutually exclusive.

Ishmael

"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.'"
Cicero

“There is, in fact, a manly and lawful passion for equality which excites men to wish all to be powerful and honored. This passion tends to elevate the humble to the rank of the great; but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom. Liberty is not the chief and constant object of their desires; equality is their idol: they make rapid and sudden efforts to obtain liberty, and if they miss their aim resign themselves to their disappointment; but nothing can satisfy them except equality, and rather than lose it they resolve to perish.”
Alexis de Tocqueville

As the ancient poet Hesiod noted, there are two sorts of human jealousies: the positive one of a free society in which citizens are impressed by the singular works of some and thus redouble their efforts to match or exceed them (“She stirs up even the shiftless to toil; for a man grows eager to work when he considers his neighbor, a rich man who hastens to plow and plant and put his house in good order; and neighbor vies with his neighbor as he hurries after wealth”), and a destructive envy (“foul-mouthed, delighting in evil, with scowling face”) in which the many resent that the few have something they do not, and thus redouble their efforts to either destroy them or take away what they have acquired.
Victor Davis Hanson

I love the smell of classics in the morning.

 

[about_average]

They spend their political dollars calling us names and shredding our reputations; we spend ours explaining why the complicated solutions we propose will work and why theirs won’t

That's laughable.
He should move to Colorado and go in to business selling what he's smoking.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's laughable.
He should move to Colorado and go in to business selling what he's smoking.

*chuckle*


So eager to reenforce the point being made. You should have brought more water...

 

[Busybody]

That's laughable.
He should move to Colorado and go in to business selling what he's smoking.

perfect example of a TYPICAL LIB

devoid of any sense of anything

WAR ON WOMEN

BINDERS

HAIRCUTZ

ROCKS

MACCAU

PAISLEY PJs

BIG BIRD

BIRTH CONTROL FOR 70 YR OLDS

all crucial ISSUES for them

 

[Busybody]

*chuckle*


So eager to reenforce the point being made. You should have brought more water...

tee hee

 

[RobDownSouth]

It is analogous to the Rotarians taking on a soccer mob.

Today I am met with another example of the mentality as I made a joke in vette's thread that the usual rodeo clowns took as an invitation to call me stupid because their passion, to use a nicer word, causes them to read not for content, but for an attack angle. So this thread is another vehicle by which to make the point, which I can say openly knowing that they will not get this far in their reading.

LOL....keep deludin' yourself that you're our intellectual superior, and we'll keep laughing at you.

Oh well, at least you have miles to succor you.

 

[Busybody]

That's laughable.
He should move to Colorado and go in to business selling what he's smoking.

we are all BUNNY SLIPPERS

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

perfect example of a TYPICAL LIB

devoid of any sense of anything

WAR ON WOMEN

BINDERS

HAIRCUTZ

ROCKS

MACCAU

PAISLEY PJs

BIG BIRD

BIRTH CONTROL FOR 70 YR OLDS

all crucial ISSUES for them

Ah, the heady halcyon days of remodeling and wardrobe...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

tee hee

Here come the Crusaders!

 

[Busybody]

the O fucking Pee is too long

easier to have made the point thusly

Al Sharpton, HERO

Dr Ben Carson, VILLIAN!


See?

SUCK SINK !

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

the O fucking Pee is too long

easier to have made the point thusly

Al Sharpton, HERO

Dr Ben Carson, VILLIAN!


See?

SUCK SINK !

*chuckle*

 

[Busybody]

or

Obama=GENIUS

H Caine=IDIOT!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

President Barack Obama rallied his grassroots base in support of a pared-down agenda Tuesday, addressing an “organizing summit” hosted by the issues group founded out of his former presidential campaign.

“You’re doing God’s work,” he told the roughly 300 invited donors, volunteers, and activists at the ornate Washington Mandarin Oriental Hotel for the Organizing for Action event, 13 months after the group was created.

Read more: President Obama Speaks To Organizing For Action Grassroots Group | TIME.com http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/2...roots-army-for-doing-gods-work/#ixzz2uR6WQErf



:snicker:

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

David Horowitz, NRO

Watch what happens to this conversation.

Libs like what feels good, and never consider the toil or costs. IT FEELS GOOD! is the justification.

Conservatives think WHO IN HELL IS GONNA PAY FOR IT AND DO THE WORK! AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE NEED MORE!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

 

[about_average]

So eager to reenforce the point being made. You should have brought more water...

First, I'm not a democrat.
Second, I don't see it as a character flaw just because someone happens to be high when they write something. Some very funny things get written by people who're stoned. Saying someone appears stoned based on what they wrote isn't an attack, it's a conclusion based on evidence, though, admittedly, the evidence is circumstantial. But if it's good enough in court....
Third, provide some empirical evidence that what he says is true. And I don't mean anecdotal "evidence" from his column.

 

[Busybody]

First, I'm not a democrat.
Second, I don't see it as a character flaw just because someone happens to be high when they write something. Some very funny things get written by people who're stoned. Saying someone appears stoned based on what they wrote isn't an attack, it's a conclusion based on evidence, though, admittedly, the evidence is circumstantial. But if it's good enough in court....
Third, provide some empirical evidence that what he says is true. And I don't mean anecdotal "evidence" from his column.

WAY Below Average

an OBAMA VOTER

 

[RobDownSouth]

First, I'm not a democrat.
Second, I don't see it as a character flaw just because someone happens to be high when they write something. Some very funny things get written by people who're stoned. Saying someone appears stoned based on what they wrote isn't an attack, it's a conclusion based on evidence, though, admittedly, the evidence is circumstantial. But if it's good enough in court....
Third, provide some empirical evidence that what he says is true. And I don't mean anecdotal "evidence" from his column.

"Anecdata" is a core component of fringe-right whackadoodle philosophy.

 

[zipman]

The conservatives attempt to appeal to reason while the democrats use emotional hyperbole.

Reason is not going to work well in a nation populated with under-educated and/or poorly educated citizens. Republicanism/Democracy cannot survive ignorance, they are mutually exclusive.

Ishmael

From trying to shut down the government to newly proposed anti-gay law in Arizona, the Republicans have shown that they are not taking a business approach. Both were appeals to emotion that resonated strongly with right wingers.

But it's cute watching you all convince yourselves how right you are.