What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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NEW POLL ECHOES OLDER POLLS: Most People Hate Obamacare.

And a reader emails: “I think that Obama (or whoever handles him) may turn around late next year and suddenly reactivate the employer mandate. Remember, he can only refuse to enforce it, he cannot undo it. So what’s to stop him from not enforcing it early, then right around the end of the year, say right after the elections, saying “okay now we will enforce it”, and punish companies for not providing health insurance? He could even pick and choose which companies against which to enforce it! Would you warn companies of such a possibility?” Well, that’s the thing about executive discretion — you can’t count on it. But it’s not clear to me where Obama gets that discretion anyway. In fact, I’m not sure that the Uniformity Clause doesn’t block the granting of waivers anyway.
 
He can't even own his own actions, preferring instead his fantasies.:D

Dude, you do realize that you're basically just copying what I'm saying, and trying to throw it back at me, right?

Weaksauce.

Speaking of weak sauce... how many times have you come talking to Jen on the computer?
 
Dude, you do realize that you're basically just copying what I'm saying, and trying to throw it back at me, right?

Weaksauce.

Speaking of weak sauce... how many times have you come talking to Jen on the computer?

^^ken jealousy welling up again. :rolleyes:
 
knew there was a NIGGER in the WOODPILE with this shit

MD "issues" rates that "look good", but there aren't any insurance companies that are gonna issue insurance in MD

AETNA just left, others follow suit

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Factor in exchange subsidies and re-post graph please.

And can we stop talking about premiums and start talking about actual cost-for-coverage? Premiums don't really mean much in isolation.
 
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what the fuck does THIS have to do with what I posted?

NOTHING!


:rolleyes:

Ohio prices haven't been released yet, only the Lt. Governor's bogus math saying prices increased 88%. She's using the same stoopid math as neighboring governor pence, taking the average price of bronze, silver, gold, platium plans and then pretending that subsidies don't exist.

Sooo much Republican dishonesty. Sooooo many gullible people out there.
 
Ohio prices haven't been released yet, only the Lt. Governor's bogus math saying prices increased 88%. She's using the same stoopid math as neighboring governor pence, taking the average price of bronze, silver, gold, platium plans and then pretending that subsidies don't exist.

Sooo much Republican dishonesty. Sooooo many gullible people out there.

Stew Pid

War on Big Bird/women/gaze etc

good for you

if it works, keep using it:rolleyes:
 
Age 25, single, making $25,000 per year


- $3,391 annual premium under an ACA Silver plan <- Republicans say this is the real cost.

- $1,664 annual subsidy

- $1,726 annual premium <- People who deal in reality know this is the real cost.
 
at age 25

making that $$$

there should BE NO NEED for INSURANCE


Obamacare lets them stay on their parents' plan at an even cheaper rate than I posted actually. Zero Republicans want to factor that in though because they're monumentally dishonest people.
 
THE OBAMA ECONOMY: BRINGING FAMILIES TOGETHER! More Than 1 in 3 Young Adults Still Live With Their Parents
 
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"Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren’t they? They’re all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you’re born, you’re on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you. They don’t want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re preborn, you’re fine; if you’re preschool, you’re fucked." ~ George Carlin
 
Part-time jobs account for 97% of 2013 job growth


posted at 9:21 am on August 5, 2013 by Ed Morrissey






Being on vacation last week meant that I missed the jobs report for July, which turned out to be as unremarkable as most of those in the four-plus years of the so-called economic recovery. The media reports I did catch while on the cruise focused mainly on the fact that the jobs added in July missed the expectations of analysts, and not on the fact that adding only 162,000 jobs meant another extension of stagnation, as the US economy needs ~150,000 jobs added each month just to tread water, thanks to population growth. That’s not even a decent maintenance number, let alone the kind of job growth needed to put the chronically unemployed back to work.

The media reports also missed another trend in job reports, one caught by a former chief of the Bureau of Labor Statistics and reported by McClatchy’s Kevin Hall this morning. Almost all of the job growth this year came in part-time work — and when we say “almost all,” we mean 97% of it:


The unemployment rate is measured by the separate Household Survey, and it fell two-tenths of a percentage point to 7.4 percent, its lowest level since December 2008. That’s due in part to slow growth in the labor force. The jobless rate is based on a sample of self-reporting from ordinary people across the nation, and it’s the Labor Department measure that shows a very troubling trend in hiring.

“Over the last six months, of the net job creation, 97 percent of that is part-time work,” said Keith Hall, a senior researcher at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center. “That is really remarkable.”

Hall is no ordinary academic. He ran the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the agency that puts out the monthly jobs report, from 2008 to 2012. Over the past six months, he said, the Household Survey shows 963,000 more people reporting that they were employed, and 936,000 of them reported they’re in part-time jobs.

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/forbes-pt-ft.jpg“That is a really high number for a six-month period,” Hall said. “I’m not sure that has ever happened over six months before.”

And Hall says there has to be something driving that kind of trend, and thinks he knows what it is:


“There is something going on if such a large share of the hiring is part time,” Hall said. …

Hall speculated that the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, shorthanded as Obamacare, might be resulting in employers shifting workers to part-time status to avoid coming health care obligations.

“There’s been so much talk about the effects of Obamacare on part-time work,” he said. “This is such an unusual thing to see.”

Forbes’ Chris Conover wrote about this trend last week, before the BLS published the July jobs report:


Denialism may be too strong a term.[1] But there seem to be a lot of people arguing that Obamacare has little or nothing to do with the rise in part-time employment. Some deny the rise is even happening, while others are content to deny that Obamacare is the culprit. Admittedly, it takes a little detective work, but if we systematically review the available empirical evidence in an even-handed fashion, the conclusion seems inescapable: Obamacare is accelerating a disturbing trend towards “a nation of part-timers.” This is not good news for America. …

Ratio of New PT Workers to New FT Workers Explodes in 2013. For the most part, an examination of metrics measured in millions (e.g., involuntary PT workers or total PT workers) masks what is really going on. A much better sense is given by comparing the changes in PT employment to the changes in FT employment. Because the monthly Current Population Survey are so volatile, it is easier to see what is going on by calculating an average monthly figure for each calendar year to get a sense of whether the number of PT or FT is rising or falling. We only have six months of data for 2013, but this method allows us to compare the average monthly count for the year to date with the average monthly count from prior years on an apples-to-apples basis. We can then calculate the ratio of new PT workers in an average month to new FT workers in an average month. Obviously this ratio will turn negative in years that either FT or PT workers have declined on average. So over the past decade, there’s only 4 other years with which to compare the 2013 experience.

forbes-pt-ft


What should immediately be obvious to even someone without a shred of statistical training is how deviant the 2013 experience is compared to the past. For every new FT job added to the economy, there were 4.3 PT jobs added! In most (non-negative) years, the ratio is the reverse: that is, there are typically 5 FT jobs added for every new PT job. Even in 2004—the year with the second-highest ratio during this time-frame–there were 2 FT jobs for every PT job, yielding a ratio of 0.5. Even if growth in PT vs. FT workers reverted to its historic pattern for the balance of 2013, the year’s average monthly ratio still would be four times as large as the 2nd highest ratio from 2004.

The July report only confirms that trend. Only 92,000 full-time jobs were created, while 172,000 part-time jobs got filled (not net numbers). The only major influence in 2013 that differs from the preceding three years of the recovery is the impending ObamaCare mandate on employers, which the Obama administration will try to postpone for a year. The data shows that businesses have already begun to react by minimizing their risk and costs through part-time employment, thanks to the perverse incentives set up by the ACA, and that this will continue as long as the mandate exists.

Maybe that’s why it’s so difficult to find ObamaCare defenders these days — at least unpaid ones. OFA tried to stage a rally in Centreville, Virginia yesterday, but only one person bothered to attend, and even the organizer took a powder after less than a half-hour on the job:


That means gatherings like today’s in Centreville — although the slow start here is probably not what OFA organizers had in mind. After a scheduling snafu over the start time, a few people showed up and left before it actually started. Just one volunteer stayed to help work the phone bank for the health law, and the event’s organizer bolted after 20 minutes — although he was bound for another Obamacare event, a house party.

Another part-time worker, eh?
 
Curry's Mother at her business

Lone Drone Shown At Obamacare VA Event


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The loneliest drone on Earth …

Via Politico:


CENTREVILLE, Va. — A race to define Obamacare to the masses began today between the stacks at the Centreville Library. Over pizza in Decatur, Texas. And with a glass of wine in Naples, Fla.

Dozens of communities around the country hosted pro-Obamacare events, convened by the president’s foot soldiers at Organizing for Action. The series is the first salvo in what is fixing to be a month of high-stakes health care spin. When Congress returns from its summer recess in early September, there will be less than a month until Obamacare’s most sweeping coverage programs start signing up customers in new health insurance exchanges.

In the meantime, pro- and anti-Obamacare advocates are plotting to fill the silence any way they can.
 
Curry's Mother at her business

Talkin 'bout my mother.... :cool:

She's an artist that works on commission for special events for rich people. Weddings, retirements, corporate events, religious things, community things, etc. She's been doing it for almost 40 years now and is always booked a year in advance and has to turn down most who contact her. My mum's an extraordinary woman.

And she's on the board of a hospital and a community service agency. And she's the music director at her church and a kickass grandma.

She's probably the same age as you and is 14,839% more productive than you in a given day.
 
Talkin 'bout my mother.... :cool:

She's an artist that works on commission for special events for rich people. Weddings, retirements, corporate events, religious things, community things, etc. She's been doing it for almost 40 years now and is always booked a year in advance and has to turn down most who contact her. My mum's an extraordinary woman.

And she's on the board of a hospital and a community service agency. And she's the music director at her church and a kickass grandma.

She's probably the same age as you and is 14,839% more productive than you in a given day.

How could her son be such a failure. :confused:
 
Talkin 'bout my mother.... :cool:

She's an artist that works on commission for special events for rich people. Weddings, retirements, corporate events, religious things, community things, etc. She's been doing it for almost 40 years now and is always booked a year in advance and has to turn down most who contact her. My mum's an extraordinary woman.

And she's on the board of a hospital and a community service agency. And she's the music director at her church and a kickass grandma.

She's probably the same age as you and is 14,839% more productive than you in a given day.

yeah

she has a business:rolleyes:
 
Talkin 'bout my mother.... :cool:

She's an artist that works on commission for special events for rich people. Weddings, retirements, corporate events, religious things, community things, etc. She's been doing it for almost 40 years now and is always booked a year in advance and has to turn down most who contact her. My mum's an extraordinary woman.

And she's on the board of a hospital and a community service agency. And she's the music director at her church and a kickass grandma.

She's probably the same age as you and is 14,839% more productive than you in a given day.

Not to take anything away from the radiant magnificence of your mum, but you could throw a rock up in the air, have it fall back down to the ground and it would be 14,839% more productive than that shitstain's output during his entire life.

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Obamacare's 'Cadillac tax' causing union strife
The draconian fee is targeted at high-cost health insurance plans, but unions are balking at reducing benefits. The result may be job losses.

f municipal employees don't accept lower-cost health care plans, the Cadillac tax may lead to job losses and stagnant wages among municipal employees, and even higher burdens on taxpayers, the report notes.


Here's how the Cadillac tax works: If an employer-provided health insurance policy costs more than $10,200 for an individual, the employer will be taxed 40% of what's considered an "excess benefit," according to insurer Aetna (AET +1.16%). The tax kicks in for $27,500 in spending on family coverage.

http://money.msn.com/now/post--obamacares-cadillac-tax-causing-union-strife
 
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