Zimmerman verdict is in.

[run_silent]

What the fuck are you on about?



What part of WE's post that you just quoted involves Zimmerman's race? He was talking about Martin's race. It wouldn't have mattered if Zimmerman was White, Hispanic, or fucking Asian. The point is that it's far too easy to get away with shooting a black guy. And the ORIGINAL post you quoted,



was about how it's even easier to get away with killing a black person in the south than it is anywhere else.

The truth is you were too fucking stupid to comprehend the analogy so you're spouting off dumbshittery like your mouth has diarrhoea. Here's a suggestion, shut the fuck up if you don't understand something (or politely ask for clarification) and you'll look less like a god damn fuckwit.

Here comes the name calling. It's what happens when you run out of logic.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My original statement is that even hockey players would get extra minutes on their penalty for instigating a fight. Because of your fucked up laws someone can stalk and kill someone then walk away free.

There is nothing to back up, fool.

Maybe hockey players oughta run for the legislature and make some new laws.

 

[Beco]

Here comes the name calling. It's what happens when you run out of logic.

She does that, and frankly, I'm not sure why.

 

[renard_ruse]

yes. In civilized countries if you stalk and kill someone you get in trouble, you don't become a national celebrity and hero.

Canadian chicks are hawt...

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2013/05/23/ontario_premier_kathleen_wynne_tries_to_sell_budget_to_ontarians/kathleen_wynne.jpg.size.xxlarge.promo.jpg

 

[imalickin]

The latest from Jesse "The Race-baiter" Jackson...


"Zimmerman jury wasn't made up of Trayvon's peers."

Wait...what?

 

[Squibbs]

The latest from Jesse "The Race-baiter" Jackson...


"Zimmerman jury wasn't made up of Trayvon's peers."

Wait...what?

He's an idiot.

So are you for caring what he says.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The latest from Jesse "The Race-baiter" Jackson...


"Zimmerman jury wasn't made up of Trayvon's peers."

Wait...what?

Of course not. Juries are supposed to be made up of the defendant's peers. Certainly Jackson knows that, or he would be the only adult in the US who doesn't.

Maybe JJ thinks the jury should have been all black, 17 year old MMA fighters.

 

[koalabear]

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/A3/78988B2BA12C9084F576EE73496_h316_w628_m5_cSNeKKbld.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

Only because of your fucked up laws.

So you would rather have guilty until proven innocent??

You do realize that's how epileptics got burned at the steak for demonic possession and witchcraft right?

Any sane/ civilized country would not have let zimmy walk without some sort of punishment for being the instigator.

Even hockey players get an extra 2 mins for being an instigator.

May the USA continue to become a bigger shithole.

They can't prove SHIT....live man vs dead mans word...that's all ya got and THAT is why he walked.

They can't prove he did anything illegal....they can't punish him for anything.

Yup. Zimmerman got away with being judge, jury and executioner.

Prove it...

Yea....that's what I thought SDG, STFU.

yes. In civilized countries if you stalk and kill someone you get in trouble, you don't become a national celebrity and hero.

Who stalked and killed someone?

 

[Wrong Element]

They can't prove SHIT....live man vs dead mans word...that's all ya got and THAT is why he walked.

They can't prove he did anything illegal....they can't punish him for anything.

Leaving Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and race completely out of it, it surprises me that so many people see this as logical, and even positive. The idea that you can eliminate the only witness to a confrontation and then claim self-defense ... you don't have to be paranoid to see how that can misused by unambiguous murderers.

One day we're going to get a similar case where white people aren't going to be so willing to automatically assume the worst about the dead person; and then maybe the insanity of the Florida self-defense law, which puts the burden of proof on the person who can no longer speak because they're in a coffin, will become a little more apparent to some of you.

 

[koalabear]

Leaving Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and race completely out of it, it surprises me that so many people see this as logical, and even positive. The idea that you can eliminate the only witness to a confrontation and then claim self-defense ... you don't have to be paranoid to see how that can misused by unambiguous murderers.

One day we're going to get a similar case where white people aren't going to be so willing to automatically assume the worst about the dead person; and then maybe the insanity of the Florida self-defense law, which puts the burden of proof on the person who can no longer speak because they're in a coffin, will become a little more apparent to some of you.

It's pretty much the same as every other State.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

What Libs don't get is, when your theory has holes in it for lack of evidence you don't get to fill those holes like you wuz at Burger King and hadda a whole assortment of condiments to select from.

LEMME SEE, OK PUT SOME MAYO AND MUSTARD AND ONION AMD SUMMA DAT LIBRUL BALONEY AND A DABBUH DAT MSNBC BULLSHIT ON IT.

 

[Squibbs]

Who stalked and killed someone?

Who just asked a stupid question?

 

[Laurel]

This is good. Especially this bit:

4.) I think Andrew Cohen is right--trials don't work as strict "moral surrogates." Everything that is immoral is not illegal--nor should it be. I want to live in a society that presumes innocence. I want to live in that society even when I feel that a person should be punished.​

 

[run_silent]

Leaving Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and race completely out of it, it surprises me that so many people see this as logical, and even positive. The idea that you can eliminate the only witness to a confrontation and then claim self-defense ... you don't have to be paranoid to see how that can misused by unambiguous murderers.

One day we're going to get a similar case where white people aren't going to be so willing to automatically assume the worst about the dead person; and then maybe the insanity of the Florida self-defense law, which puts the burden of proof on the person who can no longer speak because they're in a coffin, will become a little more apparent to some of you.

I missed the part where you left race out of it. I think white people were mentioned after the let's leave race out of it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

This is good. Especially this bit:

4.) I think Andrew Cohen is right--trials don't work as strict "moral surrogates." Everything that is immoral is not illegal--nor should it be. I want to live in a society that presumes innocence. I want to live in that society even when I feel that a person should be punished.​

I liked the overlooked fact that Zimmy had been patrollin' the neighborhood for years....all three streets that made up the neighborhood...but "had" to get out of his car to "check the street name".

 

[mwmnpa]

The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. - Niccolò Machiavelli

This trial was a farce and a media-driven circus.

That is all.

 

[Wrong Element]

I missed the part where you left race out of it. I think white people were mentioned after the let's leave race out of it.

Yeah, I kinda put a paragraph break in there for a reason. Have you always been this big a fucking idiot?


I might have to update the size of that Ignore list I was just posting about...

 

[Beco]

The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. - Niccolò Machiavelli

This trial was a farce and a media-driven circus.

That is all.

From what I heard, there should have been no trial.....

 

[koalabear]

I liked the overlooked fact that Zimmy had been patrollin' the neighborhood for years....all three streets that made up the neighborhood...but "had" to get out of his car to "check the street name".

That just means he would have made a lousy cab driver.

 

[run_silent]

The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. - Niccolò Machiavelli

This trial was a farce and a media-driven circus.

That is all.

Interesting person to chose to quote.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Leaving Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and race completely out of it, it surprises me that so many people see this as logical, and even positive.

It's logical because if you are going to accuse someone of wrong doing and imprison them you must prove they committed a crime first, with evidence for which there there are very strictly outlined standards to qualify as such.

It's a positive b/c it shows the CRJS is working, it shows the state can't incarcerate someone based on public/state OPINION.

Otherwise DA's would be like gods....sending whoever they want to prison.

The idea that you can eliminate the only witness to a confrontation and then claim self-defense ... you don't have to be paranoid to see how that can misused by unambiguous murderers.

That has ALWAYS been the case, why do you think we have witness protection programs?

USUALLY forensics pinches them, they fuck up somewhere....shot trajectory, powder burn patterns etc. But 1v1 self defense cases are some of the hardest to prosecute without forensics damning the supposed victim they simply don't have a case. I know the DA knew that with this case...but they had to put on the dog and pony show for the public.

One day we're going to get a similar case where white people aren't going to be so willing to automatically assume the worst about the dead person

What happened to leaving race out of it?

http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/oj-simpson-smiling-murder-trial.jpg

And it's not about assuming the worst about the dead person, he/she doesn't give a fuck I promise.

It's about dealing with those left after the event, do we automatically assume the worst about them?

What if Trayvon really did attack Zim? The guy is 100% vindicated and all the boo hoo'ers on the left that were hoping for a lynching are racist fucking assholes every bit their RW counterparts.

If he really is guilty he wouldn't be the first to walk on lack of evidence/technicalities and he wont be the last.

and then maybe the insanity of the Florida self-defense law, which puts the burden of proof on the person who can no longer speak because they're in a coffin, will become a little more apparent to some of you.

Those are self defense laws practically the nation over....if you kill someone and claim "Self defense" it's up to the state to prove otherwise. The burden of proof never was and never is on the person who can no longer speak.

 

[mwmnpa]

From what I heard, there should have been no trial.....

If you followed along with CNN, MSNBC, etc., and then read the actual transcripts, you would have thought it was two different events. The cheerleading to rail road that guy was unbelievable.

Not that I think much of him. Like I said in another forum, both were guilty of stupidity. And the kid paid with his life.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who just asked a stupid question?

It was nothing more than assumption and opinion......if there were any evidence that was the case Zim would be in prison.

 

[Beco]

If you followed along with CNN, MSNBC, etc., and then read the actual transcripts, you would have thought it was two different events. The cheerleading to rail road that guy was unbelievable.

Not that I think much of him. Like I said in another forum, both were guilty of stupidity. And the kid paid with his life.

I didnt follow it that closely, but I ain't no tough guy, if it were me, at 17, I'm sure I would have run from the confrontation....it really seems to me like an event that shouldnt have happened in the first place.