Behold the Republican Party's "America without regulations"...

[LJ_Reloaded]

Vote out Right-to-Work bullshit and this will happen less often:

http://www.politicususa.com/republicans-created-world-work-killed.html

Republicans Have Created a World Where Going to Work Can Get You Killed

Conservatives spend inordinate amounts of time trying to neuter the government from its role as a regulatory body with the power to rein in corporate depravity. For them, unfettered capitalism is a religion because the “invisible hand” of the market place is supposed to somehow overcome the malevolent tendencies of the profit-motive and churn out a healthy society. The rash of employee deaths on the job across a number of industries has received inadequate responses from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for several decades now as conservatives have undermined them. There is one additional guarantee for employers across the country; no matter how egregious their worker safety violations become, they know they will never have to face real criminal consequences.

Outside the Corn Belt, few people realize that corn bins are actually quite dangerous. In 2010, 26 people died by becoming entrapped in corn. They effectively drowned in it as it takes on the qualities of quicksand. There are worker precautions that can limit the risk of this type of accident occurring. However, many businesses have factored in the cost of doing business without safety precautions, and they have decided to risk the lives of their employees. They know that the consequences for allowing one of their workers to die are minimal. Since 1984, fines for grain entrapment deaths have fallen by almost 60%. In fact, according to Jim Morris, a report by the Center for Public Integrity and National Public Radio found, “analysis of OSHA data shows that 179 people died in grain entrapments at commercial facilities — bins, rail cars, etc. — from 1984 through 2012. The fines initially proposed in these cases totaled $9.2 million but were cut to $3.8 million, a reduction of 59 percent.” Penalties like jail time are incredibly limited.

OHSA isn’t doing any better at protecting the oil & gas workforce, steel mill workers, trench diggers, or as we all keenly aware following the West, Texas explosion, chemical plant workers. During a 4-month period in 2010, 58 workers were killed in the oil and gas industry, and one union health and safety inspector notes, “They are basically self-regulated.” It isn’t surprising, because the penalties that OSHA is allowed to assess are among the lowest of any regulatory agency. By law, they haven’t been able to increase penalties with inflation since 1990. They are not even allowed to force an employer to fix a safety hazard after they issue a citation, often settling for a “pledge” from the company to behave. For example, a worker death at Crucible Steel Industries came after OHSA had cited the company for 70 safety violations and issued it $250,000 in fines. These figures stand out, because “serious” violations defined by OSHA as “most likely result in death or serious physical harm” carry a maximum penalty of $7,000 and “willful” violations receive a maximum fine of $36,720.

Of course, the mining industry is notorious for its unsafe conditions with 11 deaths just so far this year, but less well known are the dangers of digging trenches. The deaths of trench diggers are regarded by work safety experts as completely unnecessary. Nonetheless, 200 workers have been killed and scores more injured since 2002 by reckless employers unwilling to invest in the safety precautions. In an older research study published in 1988, researchers found that most workers died in shallow trenches while digging sewer lines. The walls of the trenches had not been shored up or braced. Strikingly, only 12% of such deaths occurred in unionized companies. The average fine per death: $1,991.

Like I said, butthurtboy, I control this discussion. We stay on-topic. I will keep forcing you back on-topic.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You don't have a dick to suck.

Next time someone lights your singlewide on fire, make sure to tell the union to go away. Oh wait, you don't have a firefighter union or a police union over there, you have a fucking bucket brigade and a gun you can't shoot straight with, hahahahah!

That's not what your girl said....oh wait you don't have one of those.

Well if they are burning a single wide they might want to check the paperwork....I don't own one of those.

I noticed you didn't claim victory this time, why the sudden change in heart masterdebater?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

That's not what your girl said....oh wait you don't have one of those.

Which is exactly what I expected to hear once you realized you were losing AGAIN.

Well if they are burning a single wide they might want to check the paperwork....I don't own one of those.

Oh yeah, you rent one, mybad.

I noticed you didn't claim victory this time, why the sudden change in heart masterdebater?

Wouldn't look good for me to do so when you're now the one stomping yourself into a bloody cowpie.

You've completely conceded the fact that Republicans want to make work unsafe for workers.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Again, the RED STATES have the worst amount of workplace deaths. You can thank Republicans for this. Republicans... desperate to turn America into CHINA. And Botanyboy does not contest.

http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/workplace-deaths-continue-rise-ac

The risk of job fatalities and injuries varies widely from state to state, in part due to the mix of industries. West Virginia led the country with the highest fatality rate (13.1 per 100,000), followed by Wyoming (11.9), Alaska (11.8), South Dakota (8.6) and North Dakota (8.4). The lowest state fatality rate (0.9 per 100,000) was reported in New Hampshire, followed by Massachusetts (1.7), Rhode Island (1.8) and California, Delaware and New Jersey (2.0). This compares with a national fatality rate of 3.6 per 100,000 workers in 2010.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Vote out Right-to-Work bullshit and this will happen less often:

Except Right to work is winning out in states that don't want to wind up like MI...sorry!!!

Like I said, butthurtboy, I control this discussion. We stay on-topic. I will keep forcing you back on-topic.

The more you call me butthurt the more you project....I have no dog in this hunt, I couldn't give 2 fucking squirts of rat shit, doesn't effect me. If/when it does I'll just fucking leave and go make my money somewhere else.

And none of this changes the fact that you DIRECTLY SUPPORT people working in unsafe and substandard factories and have no room to bitch about that nor the policies that make it possible.

The only reason you keep trying to drag it to republicans in the US is b/c you don't want to be made to look at it. Like a bitch who can't own their slave master status.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Which is exactly what I expected to hear once you realized you were losing AGAIN.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8GAmFUGMcuA/Tb7S-xkSkqI/AAAAAAAACDc/TPdeZ9nLd6c/Bush-Mission-Accomplished_thumb%5B3%5D.jpg?imgmax=800

You've completely conceded the fact that Republicans want to make work unsafe for workers.

I never contested it you fucking moron....

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

The more you call me butthurt the more you project....I have no dog in this hunt, I couldn't give 2 fucking squirts of rat shit, doesn't effect me. If/when it does I'll just fucking leave and go make my money somewhere else.

You have no skills with which to make money.

Republican anti-worker fanatics are trying to turn us into China. Democrats and labor unions are responsible for making workplaces safer.

The solution here is to kick out the Republicans and ban imports from countries that have poor workplace safety laws.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

And now the killshot that sent Botanyboy to suicide counseling...

http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20070620/

There is a common myth that unions hurt productivity, supposedly because they impose work rules that make their employers less efficient. The evidence from industrial relations studies does not support this myth. A broad study of the economics literature found “a positive association [of unions on productivity] is established for the United States in general and for U.S. manufacturing” in particular (Doucouliagos and Laroche 2003, 1).1 And as the second chart below reveals, international comparisons suggest that high productivity and very high union density are entirely compatible....

 

[BotanyBoy]

You have no skills with which to make money.

Yea....keep telling yourself that....I'll keep laughing at you.

And now the killshot that sent Botanyboy to suicide counseling...

http://theniteranter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mission_accomplished.jpg

 

[Dazzle1]

Right to work is great.

It allows business to give workewrs a chance not to pay union protections

Labor Union are no different than the Mafia

 

[CHNOPS]

Right to work is great.

It allows business to give workewrs a chance not to pay union protections

Labor Union are no different than the Mafia

You have Right-Wing Tourettes.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Yea....keep telling yourself that....I'll keep laughing at you.

Well at least you concede that you have no counterpoint because you're wrong.

Your complete surrender on this issue has been confirmed.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well at least you concede that you have no counterpoint because you're wrong.

Your complete surrender on this issue has been confirmed.

http://theniteranter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mission_accomplished.jpg

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Rats, lost ANOTHER argument to LT...

Whodathunkit!!!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whodathunkit!!!

Just like W....full of shit.
http://theniteranter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mission_accomplished.jpg

 

[landslider2000]

No Repub has urged zero regulations.

It isn't a choice between the present flood of regulatory overreach and laissez faire.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

My argument, unlike my ass, ran out of gas![/IMG]

You not only surrendered the argument over whether Republicans want labor policies that kill workers - like in China - but then you started utterly spazzing out when I showed that union workers MEAN high productivity.

RobDownSouth was 100% right and you have totally conceded that.

 

[RobDownSouth]

No Repub has urged zero regulations.

It isn't a choice between the present flood of regulatory overreach and laissez faire.

Would you mind giving us an example of what you consider to be "regulatory overreach"? Hmmmm?

 

[landslider2000]

It isn't rational discourse to aver that Repubs favor no regs when everybody is aware that isn't true

 

[dan_c00000]

Ahh....loony douche gugzzler #4...

Well I never said I was getting one...I said I was working on it, don't have it yet.

I notice you don't have anything to say about your contribution toward the Chinese peasantry forced to work in deplorable conditions for YOUR benefit. No? Just childish insults of no substance?

[/IMG]

If you'd like to know I buy my suits from Brooks Brothers so they're made in the USA. Those that aren't are made in either Italy or England.

What's the difference between working on and getting one? I would imagine neither is true and you're simply making stuff up.

 

[BotanyBoy]

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Keep claiming victory, that will make it more true!!
http://theniteranter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mission_accomplished.jpg

If you'd like to know I buy my suits from Brooks Brothers so they're made in the USA. Those that aren't are made in either Italy or England.

What's the difference between working on and getting one? I would imagine neither is true and you're simply making stuff up.

Suits are the only things you own? Not one thing made in china hua? Wow...interesting....bullshit.

If you don't know the difference then don't worry about it, and besides you don't think it's true anyhow so the point is moot.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Keep claiming victory, that will make it more true!!
http://theniteranter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mission_accomplished.jpg

Your numbing fear of even trying to refute me is duly noted.

Republicans want America to be more like China. You concede that.
Union labor is efficient and safer. You concede that.

What's left of your credibility here, dude?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Your numbing fear of even trying to refute me is duly noted.

Punk ass bitch, I stomped your cheesy little midget dick into the dirt off the bat. You're just in denial.

Republicans want America to be more like China. You concede that.
Union labor is efficient and safer. You concede that.

Yep...and yep....

What's left of your credibility here, dude?

I'm man enough to admit I support that policy every time I buy something from china and you are too chicken shit to own the fact the only reason you live the life you do is because you saved a bunch of money on the backs of Chinese slaves.

 

[JackLuis]

LJ have you seen this?

not on topic, but thought I'd pass it along.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Punk ass bitch, I stomped your cheesy little midget dick into the dirt off the bat. You're just in denial.

You shoved your head up your hairy ass and rolled downhill like Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'm man enough to admit I support that policy every time I buy something from china and you are too chicken shit to own the fact the only reason you live the life you do is because you saved a bunch of money on the backs of Chinese slaves.

You keep repeating this fantasy over and over again, and people keep laughing at you, Sonic.