Holder Can't Hold It, Dumps On America

[phrodeau]

Does that include all the half-Vietnamese kids looking for their dads?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Under the bill, it would take 14 years for an immigrant to be eligible to vote. That would put it at the 2028 presidential election.

It's also unclear how many illegal immigrants would seek a path to citizenship. And of that number, no one knows how many will register to vote and then actually vote. Approximately 58% of voting eligible people voted in the previous pres election.


A recent pew poll found that 54% of current latino illegal immigrants identify as democrat.

After the 1986 path to citizenship, only about 40% became citizens.

The larger point is, if it is a "civil" and "human" right, what civil and humane society would deny anyone a "right" for 14 years...

What he is saying, in effect, that US citizenship is a right to be enjoyed by the rest of the world.

It is contra-Constitutional.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Does that include all the half-Vietnamese kids looking for their dads?

Does that include the village looking for their idiot hobbit?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Does that include the village looking for their idiot, hobbit?

Not to worry, I heard some gaijin with more money than sense came over and "adopted" her.

 

[unregistered]

 

[RobDownSouth]

That's the way it used to be when I was a boy, Mexican kids were made to learn English and were educated in English. The government today encourages multi-culturalism and educates those kids in their own language, and continues to support their culture all the way through the DMV, the voting booth, and their entertainment media. There's even sympathy for keeping public records in Spanish. In California you can request a ballot in over a hundred languages. The accommodation continues full bore, we even have public figures giving public speeches in Spanish. If it's a snapshot, it's in the process of enlargement.

That's quite a concise summary of the Demise Of White Privilege.

Now, explain hip hop to us.

 

[Ishmael]

Conquistador. Ring a bell?

See what happens when you don't have, and enforce, a sound immigration policy?

Ishmael

 

[Squibbs]

That's quite a concise summary of the Demise Of White Privilege.

Now, explain hip hop to us.

Ahaha!

No shit.

He's bitches more than any bitch.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Sean]

*View Post*

Illiteracy raised to an art form.

Your welcome!

Back to Iggy.

Irony alert!

 

[phrodeau]

That's the way it used to be when I was a boy, Mexican kids were made to learn English and were educated in English. The government today encourages multi-culturalism and educates those kids in their own language, and continues to support their culture all the way through the DMV, the voting booth, and their entertainment media. There's even sympathy for keeping public records in Spanish. In California you can request a ballot in over a hundred languages. The accommodation continues full bore, we even have public figures giving public speeches in Spanish. If it's a snapshot, it's in the process of enlargement.

You're right. Americans should preserve the language of the original colonists.

Hoe klinkt dat voor u?

 

[unregistered]

 

[hogjack]

The path to citizenship is a tunnel.

No need to watch out for joggers or the crazy bicyclists.

 

[phrodeau]

Who knew?

EXCLUSIVE–-SESSIONS: IMMIGRATION BILL GIVES AMNESTIED RESIDENTS 'IMMEDIATE' ACCESS TO WELFARE


The immigration bill introduced to the Senate a week and a half ago would, if passed, allow illegal immigrants to access state and local welfare benefits immediately, Breitbart News has learned. The financial impact of allowing potentially millions of immigrants onto state and local public assistance could overwhelm these programs' budgets.

Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) uncovered this loophole in the bill and many others, and he will circulate a memo detailing the gaps in the bill on Tuesday. Breitbart News exclusively obtained a copy of the memo before its public release.

“The Gang of Eight made a promise that illegal immigrants will not be able to access public benefits,” Sessions said in a statement to Breitbart News. “We already know that, once granted green cards and ultimately citizenship, illegal immigrants will be able to access all public benefit programs at a great cost to taxpayers. We have, however, identified a number of loopholes that would allow illegal immigrants to draw public benefits even sooner than advertised.”

If the bill were signed into law, America’s 11 million illegal immigrants would be legalized within six months, when Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano submits her border security plan to Congress. Illegal immigrants would immediately be eligible for Registered Provisional Immigrant (RPI) status, making them legal to live and work in the country.

As Sessions’ staff points out in the memo, “state laws frequently extend benefits to anyone ‘lawfully present’ in the U.S.” The Sessions team points to a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) brief that details how the only requirement many state and local governments have with regard to immigrant access to public benefits is that they are “lawfully present.” The term “lawfully present” is a legal definition.

According to page 91 of the bill, all illegal immigrants granted legalized RPI status would legally be considered “lawfully present.” That section reads as follows:

‘‘(4) TREATMENT OF REGISTERED PROVISIONAL IMMIGRANTS.—A noncitizen granted registered provisional immigrant status under this section shall be considered lawfully present in the United States for all purposes while such noncitizen remains in such status, except that the noncitizen—

‘‘(A) is not entitled to the premium assistance tax credit authorized under section 36B of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986;
‘‘(B) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not lawfully present that are set forth in subsection (e) of such section; and
‘‘(C) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not lawfully present that are set forth in section 1402(e) of the Patient Protection and

Affordable Care Act (42 U.S.C. 18071).”

In evaluating whether an illegal immigrant qualifies for RPI status, Sessions’ staff points out, the legislation “explicitly forbids” the Department of Homeland Security from using current law, which blocks entry to those who could become "public charges," i.e. dependent on government welfare programs.

“Therefore, when those here illegally who are unable to support themselves are legalized, much of the immediate fiscal burden will fall on state and local governments,” Sessions’ staff wrote in the memo.
In addition to that loophole, Sessions and his staff found several more loopholes that allow current illegal immigrants access to public benefits even on the federal level before the promised wait time of 13 years from the bill’s passage.

In the memo, Sessions’ staff notes that current illegal immigrants who are “granted RPI status will immediately become eligible for federal benefits through citizen and permanent resident dependents, with no requirement that they support their household as a condition of receiving or maintaining legal status.” That means any current illegal immigrant who subsequently has dependent children, who are, by right of birth, U.S. citizens would qualify for federal welfare benefits through them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...s-by-allowing-illegal-immigrants-onto-welfare

The headline is a lie.

The bill allows the states to make the determination whether to provide benefits or not, which is exactly what Republicans want. Do you think the Feds should override the policies of the states?

 

[unregistered]

 

[Sean]

The center for immigration studies. This would be the same CIS started by a white power Holocaust denier, that CIS?

 

[RobDownSouth]

The center for immigration studies. This would be the same CIS started by a white power Holocaust denier, that CIS?

The very same outfit.

Remember, though, Vetty's not a racist because he's got a bunch of colored friends. He thinks gooks make swell fuck toys, too.

It's only those damned Mexicans that inflame his near pathological hatred.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't understand how people are getting all bitchy about immigration now. I've had several people try to explain it to me and I legitimately don't get it. I'm not being facetious. I would really like it explained to me in a manner that makes sense. I don't understand why we have immigration laws at all. The whole point of the country is that we're supposed to be a safe haven for anyone who wants to take it. I don't get why you have to be born here. You live here, you ought be a citizen. Why is there a need to complicate it?

 

[KingOrfeo]

The center for immigration studies. This would be the same CIS started by a white power Holocaust denier, that CIS?

More or less . . . That is, the Center for Immigration Studies (such an innocuous name!) is the think-tank for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (again!), which was founded by John Tanton, who certainly is a white supremacist, but I don't know if he's a Holocaust-denier.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The whole point of the country is that we're supposed to be a safe haven for anyone who wants to take it.

Well, that's not in the Constitution or the DoI or anything, it's just an idea that evolved in the 19th Century, when America was growing and industrializing and could always use more hands to work without worrying about more mouths to feed. Our early leaders were of at least two minds about the whole thing, witness the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 (though that was mainly about a (mis)perceived security problem, not an immigration problem).

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't understand how people are getting all bitchy about immigration now. I've had several people try to explain it to me and I legitimately don't get it. I'm not being facetious. I would really like it explained to me in a manner that makes sense. I don't understand why we have immigration laws at all. The whole point of the country is that we're supposed to be a safe haven for anyone who wants to take it. I don't get why you have to be born here. You live here, you ought be a citizen. Why is there a need to complicate it?

Hispanics tend to vote disproportionately Democratic, and aging white conservatives see them as a threat to their hold on political power.

 

[CandiCame]

Well, that's not in the Constitution or the DoI or anything, it's just an idea that evolved in the 19th Century, when America was growing and industrializing and could always use more hands to work without worrying about more mouths to feed. Our early leaders were of at least two minds about the whole thing, witness the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 (though that was mainly about a (mis)perceived security problem, not an immigration problem).

If that's the case, we really need to change the signs from, "Give us your poor, downtrodden, etc" to "No Irish need apply" or whatever the fuck it was when they were going on about that. I think that the Irish thing was the dustbowl. It's Mexico we're afraid of now, right?

Hispanics tend to vote disproportionately Democratic, and aging white conservatives see them as a threat to their hold on political power.

I guess that's true, since I have nothing to refute it, but it seems weird that one of the most religious sects of the population would be overwhelmingly liberal.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I guess that's true, since I have nothing to refute it, but it seems weird that one of the most religious sects of the population would be overwhelmingly liberal.

Hey, Dorothy Day was pretty blessed religious. (Well, actually, she wasn't, she was Catholic, but so are the Latinos, aren't they?)

 

[KingOrfeo]

I think that the Irish thing was the dustbowl.

No, the major waves of Irish immigration to America were around the time of the Potato Famines, 1845-1852. The Dust Bowl was in the 1930s -- think Okies, not Irish.

 

[koalabear]

Hispanics tend to vote disproportionately Democratic, and aging white conservatives see them as a threat to their hold on political power.

^^Doesn't realize he is aging. Even faster at his tonnage increases.